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bebriukas 09-02-2008 06:57 AM

Juggcash trying to get out of paying me. HELP!
 
Hello guys,

I was their member for like 4-5 months and I got only one payout of 90$. Now they have to pay me 210$ more and they banned me already for the second time. The first time when I got banned they said it was FRAUD. I sent them an e-mail asking about it and asking for proof of fraud since I don't even know how could I be doing this. So the unbanned me that time and I kept promoting their content. Now, they were supposed to pay me at least 150$ on September 1 and what do I see when I try to login into my account on ~August 29 - unable to login. I send them an e-mail again and they said that it's fraud once again. I of course told them again that I don't know what they mean by fucking fraud and to please show me what that is and show me evidence of this happening in my account and they don't even answer my e-mails anymore. Can someone please help? I am an amateur in this business and juggcash was the program I sent most of my traffic to and now they are screwing with me like this. WTF? My username on their system is the same as here so please if someone could help me out I would really appreciate it.

P.S I don't know if I created this thread in the right place and sorry if it's not the right one.

Thanks in advance for understanding.

A huge thanks for darkhorse for advice.

bufferover 09-02-2008 07:00 AM

Juggcash is solid program, they always been paying on time

ultra100 09-02-2008 07:06 AM

I haven't worked for them much, but as I know they are solid program and pay on time.
You should try contacting them again.

bloggingseo 09-02-2008 07:07 AM

It sounds like some one is frauding on your affiliate links. They could be trying to sabotage you. Ask them for proof, time of fraud, IP addresses etc

Nick-Mindgeek 09-02-2008 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bebriukas (Post 14697242)
Hello guys,

I was their member for like 4-5 months and I got only one payout of 90$. Now they have to pay me 210$ more and they banned me already for the second time. The first time when I got banned they said it was FRAUD. I sent them an e-mail asking about it and asking for proof of fraud since I don't even know how could I be doing this. So the unbanned me that time and I kept promoting their content. Now, they were supposed to pay me at least 150$ on September 1 and what do I see when I try to login into my account on ~August 29 - unable to login. I send them an e-mail again and they said that it's fraud once again. I of course told them again that I don't know what they mean by fucking fraud and to please show me what that is and show me evidence of this happening in my account and they don't even answer my e-mails anymore. Can someone please help? I am an amateur in this business and juggcash was the program I sent most of my traffic to and now they are screwing with me like this. WTF? My username on their system is the same as here so please if someone could help me out I would really appreciate it.

P.S I don't know if I created this thread in the right place and sorry if it's not the right one.

Thanks in advance for understanding.

A huge thanks for darkhorse for advice.


Hey man,

I think this entire board can agree that JuggCash is not out to screw anyone and is a stand up program. As you can understand, we have developed a anti fraud procedure that allows us to detect accounts that send in fraudulent sales.

I would be more than happy to look into your situation. Please send me an email ( [email protected] ) and show me your site; where you promote us. I will take a look at it and reply to you right away.


Thanks,

Nick

umbralui 09-02-2008 07:18 AM

what is your ratio there bebriukas?

TheDoc 09-02-2008 07:33 AM

Anyone that promotes them is fucking stupid, straight up - not slow a little, just fucking stupid.

They steal from 90% of this industry every day, only a fool would do business with them.

Darkcrni 09-02-2008 07:38 AM

Don't you know they have noobs working there.
I had same problem getting my 100 $ from brazz!!!
I'm amaze you are working for this guys.
With more then 14 000UNQ and no sale,i say this"FUCK THIS SHIT",try to find some other sponsor!!!

Tjeezers 09-02-2008 07:43 AM

Would love to read the outcome on this.

And as far the stats i have with them, they are MORE THEN SHIT :)
But i stopped sending after i seen the many posts with fair warnings.

pornguy 09-02-2008 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloggingseo (Post 14697274)
It sounds like some one is frauding on your affiliate links. They could be trying to sabotage you. Ask them for proof, time of fraud, IP addresses etc

99.9999999999% chance they will NOT give this information out.

Good luck, may be time to move on.

bebriukas 09-02-2008 08:13 AM

I'm writing an e-mail to Nick right now. My ratio before summer was like ~1:400 but now it's really bad since I made only one sale during the whole summer. I don't care if they are solid or not, I did not do anything to deserve losing my money and I am not planning on leaving this before it's resolved. Thank you for your support and understanding. I will post here when I get an answer from Nick.

Karupted Charles 09-02-2008 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 14697337)
Anyone that promotes them is fucking stupid, straight up - not slow a little, just fucking stupid.

They steal from 90% of this industry every day, only a fool would do business with them.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

So true yet so many love how stand up they are cause they pay the post whores well.

seeandsee 09-02-2008 08:20 AM

Jugg, payouts, tube :)

HomerSimpson 09-02-2008 09:20 AM

My payments from Jugg were always on time...

Trax 09-02-2008 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickfwd (Post 14697299)
I think this entire board can agree that JuggCash is not out to screw anyone and is a stand up program.

i highly doubt that lol
no offense

CaptainHowdy 09-02-2008 09:50 AM

Uh ??

bebriukas 09-02-2008 11:39 AM

Nick replied and I sent him the list of my blogs where I was promoting their content and I'm still waiting for his reply... He seemed very surprised that I had such a good ratio and I guess that was the main reason of my suspension. I guess he will see that I was promoting a lot of their content and unlock my account + pay me. I will post here again after his second reply.

bebriukas 09-05-2008 08:18 AM

Hello again guys.. When I sent all the information Nick asked me to he told me to write an e-mail to Chris (who also works for juggcash) I sent him an e-mail 36 hours ago and still no response. Again - Juggcash is ignoring my e-mails and I am asking you for help. If someone is able to do something please assist me in any way. Thanks a lot you guys.

TheDoc 09-05-2008 08:19 AM

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HorseShit 09-05-2008 08:34 AM

bump for answers

bebriukas 09-05-2008 08:46 AM

Thanks again for helping me out here, you guys are the best!
Lets try and bump this thread one more time.
BUMP!

tranza 09-05-2008 09:38 AM

They wouldn't ban you because of good conversions.

That's probably the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

fatfoo 09-05-2008 09:42 AM

that sucks, bump

TRe$yNFuL 09-05-2008 09:46 AM

Bump for you. Hope it all works out.

:pimp

bobby666 09-05-2008 10:04 AM

here another bump for you


......and you should start promoting webcams (see sig for ratio)

Bangin 09-05-2008 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza (Post 14712626)
They wouldn't ban you because of good conversions.

That's probably the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

They probably would ban him for that... They don't want their affiliates taking the money their tube sites could be making :winkwink:

klaze 09-05-2008 10:54 AM

I love how these affiliate managers dissapear when there's a problem..

Now I dunno maybe this dude is a scammer..

But don't just fucking ignore him you faggots. Tell him and show him what is up so he can fix it.. And tell us too because you lose our trust with shit like this...

Too many people just fucking ignore and avoid each other when something goes slightly negative...

Communication is key and needs to stay open at all times.

tony286 09-05-2008 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 14697337)
Anyone that promotes them is fucking stupid, straight up - not slow a little, just fucking stupid.

They steal from 90% of this industry every day, only a fool would do business with them.

well said doc

qxm 09-05-2008 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 14697337)
Anyone that promotes them is fucking stupid, straight up - not slow a little, just fucking stupid.

They steal from 90% of this industry every day, only a fool would do business with them.

+2 :thumbsup

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-05-2008 11:18 AM

looooooooooooooooool...

wizzart 09-05-2008 11:21 AM

Damn, I hate that in this industry, but juggcash are professionals and they will solve this on right way, I hope.

Bump for you friend!

Kimo 09-05-2008 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klaze (Post 14713054)
I love how these affiliate managers dissapear when there's a problem..

Now I dunno maybe this dude is a scammer..

But don't just fucking ignore him you faggots. Tell him and show him what is up so he can fix it.. And tell us too because you lose our trust with shit like this...

Too many people just fucking ignore and avoid each other when something goes slightly negative...

Communication is key and needs to stay open at all times.

agreed :2 cents:

Ecchi22 09-05-2008 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klaze (Post 14713054)
I love how these affiliate managers dissapear when there's a problem..

Now I dunno maybe this dude is a scammer..

But don't just fucking ignore him you faggots. Tell him and show him what is up so he can fix it.. And tell us too because you lose our trust with shit like this...

Too many people just fucking ignore and avoid each other when something goes slightly negative...

Communication is key and needs to stay open at all times.

Totally agree :thumbsup

Bump

Don-Antonio 09-05-2008 11:27 AM

I had the same issue with MaxCash. But they didn't even bother to answer my emails. I just got a screen after logging in that my account is under investigation. The only reply I got from the email adress given on the screeb was a postmaster error...

Barefootsies 09-05-2008 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14713079)
well said doc

They are top notch stand up 'bros"

bebriukas 09-05-2008 01:25 PM

They are still ignoring me! FUCK! Help me out here guys...

klaze 09-05-2008 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bebriukas (Post 14713698)
They are still ignoring me! FUCK! Help me out here guys...

It's pretty sad that they won't respond and tell you what is up..

Hey JuggCash/Brazzers/Content Thieves we understand that dealing with scammers is a waste of your time but what if this dude is honest?

What if he just has really good traffic?

What if someone is fucking with him?

Why not just give him a response and show him where he is comitting fraud?

Why don't you guys do the jobs you are paid to do? which is communicate and work with your affiliates?

Why even bother having an affiliate program?

Dumbest shit ever..


Now the other side of it is they might not want to talk to you and tell you how they found the fraud because they think it will lead to helping you commit more fraud..

but fuck.. common.. gotta meet in the middle..

Bangin 09-05-2008 01:33 PM

Bump for the Bums at JuggCash....

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-05-2008 01:39 PM

They can't talk to you right now, they're busy giving your affiliate money to me for buying links on my site for pornhub, sorry.

klaze 09-05-2008 01:45 PM

I guess being an affiliate just means free advertising for them...

fastboy 09-05-2008 01:49 PM

bump for you

Dave Foster 09-05-2008 02:09 PM

Please contact me on ICQ 277146649 or email dave atjuggcash

Trust me, we pay THOUSANDS of affiliates every period,
we really don't need to take your payout :1orglaugh

Bashing us on the board is not gonna help your cause,
every accounts that is locked for fraudulent activities
are because fraudulent activities were detected. Absolutely
not because your ratios were "too good" I personally know at
least 100 people that convert better than that. Now I'm not saying
no errors can go through, if we mistakenly locked your account
I will review it personally (off-board) and give you the heads-up
OFF BOARD.

Thanks

Kimo 09-05-2008 02:11 PM

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?p=14639564

klaze 09-05-2008 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davyJF99 (Post 14713849)
Please contact me on ICQ 277146649 or email dave atjuggcash

Trust me, we pay THOUSANDS of affiliates every period,
we really don't need to take your payout :1orglaugh

Bashing us on the board is not gonna help your cause,
every accounts that is locked for fraudulent activities
are because fraudulent activities were detected. Absolutely
not because your ratios were "too good" I personally know at
least 100 people that convert better than that. Now I'm not saying
no errors can go through, if we mistakenly locked your account
I will review it personally (off-board) and give you the heads-up
OFF BOARD.

Thanks

:1orglaugh :thumbsup Call someone a thief and a faggot enuff times and they will respond to you.

Boss Traffic Jim 09-05-2008 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davyJF99 (Post 14713849)
Please contact me on ICQ 277146649 or email dave atjuggcash

Trust me, we pay THOUSANDS of affiliates every period,
we really don't need to take your payout :1orglaugh

Bashing us on the board is not gonna help your cause,
every accounts that is locked for fraudulent activities
are because fraudulent activities were detected. Absolutely
not because your ratios were "too good" I personally know at
least 100 people that convert better than that. Now I'm not saying
no errors can go through, if we mistakenly locked your account
I will review it personally (off-board) and give you the heads-up
OFF BOARD.

Thanks

You're an IDIOT !!! It took going to the boards to get a reply from you so STFU with your off-board crap.

klaze 09-05-2008 02:41 PM

O.P for fun sake let us know if you actually get a response you are satisfied with.

philguy 09-05-2008 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 14712336)
Wake up... Wake up... Wake up... Wake up... Wake up... Wake up... Wake up... Wake up... Wake up... Wake up... Wake up... Wake up... Wake up... Wake up... Wake up... Wake up... Wake up... Wake up... Wake up... Wake up... Wake up... Wake up... Wake up... Wake up...

This business makes me sick. If you have something to say, just say it. The little wanna be secretive world of "who's cool" and who's not is pathetic. People will never name names. They will post, "AHA, you got ripped off by dealing with slime but we probably knew they were slime and said nothing to protect our own pockets so it sucks you got jacked, but we're cool with all of our other slime friends" routine - is more disgusting than the actual slime. The people gloating are worse than the people you're complaining about. They claim to know people are stealing and say nothing.

These "upstanding" board people, would let your mother be raped by a gang of HIV positive sudanese pirates if they thought they could get paid by them.

Dave Foster 09-05-2008 02:51 PM

Here, let me not wait for this guy to hit me up...

I went ahead and inspected your account, you have a credit ratio of 50%
as per the terms that you have accepted when you've signed up to your
juggcash account. http://juggcash.com/terms.html

8) A signup is defined as a signup from a valid referral that does not result in a refund or reversal in the first 24 hours of membership and is not in violation of the terms of this agreement.

9) Affiliate acknowledges and agrees that they shall not be entitled to a commission or referral fee for any and all referrals, which are in breach/violation of the terms of this agreement. Affiliate also acknowledges and agrees they shall not be entitled to a commission or referral fee from Juggcash.com for any subscription, which Juggcash.com in its sole and unfettered discretion determines, is the result of possible fraudulent activity. In addition, family members and employees of the affiliate are not eligible as sign ups and any attempt to refer ineligible individuals to the program will result in immediate account termination.

And the one I prefer the most

23) Juggcash.com reserves the right to cancel any Webmaster's account that has an unusually high number of charge-backs and refunds as decided in the sole and unfettered discretion of Juggcash.com. Any monies, which are due to any Webmaster whose account has been terminated due to charge-backs and refunds, will be forfeited as partial damages under the terms of this agreement.

Thank you for your understanding

klaze 09-05-2008 02:57 PM

Ok so half of his sales charged back or refunded or reversed the charge within 24 hours of signing up..

Fair enough.

TheDoc 09-05-2008 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philguy (Post 14713987)
This business makes me sick. If you have something to say, just say it. The little wanna be secretive world of "who's cool" and who's not is pathetic. People will never name names. They will post, "AHA, you got ripped off by dealing with slime but we probably knew they were slime and said nothing to protect our own pockets so it sucks you got jacked, but we're cool with all of our other slime friends" routine - is more disgusting than the actual slime. The people gloating are worse than the people you're complaining about. They claim to know people are stealing and say nothing.

These "upstanding" board people, would let your mother be raped by a gang of HIV positive sudanese pirates if they thought they could get paid by them.

huh?

I said it way up above. I don't know anyones names to post. John, jack, Allice? Best guesses I have.

I didn't get ripped off by them, check wise and I don't care if the guy gets paid or not. It's not my program, so it's not my problem. I'm sure the guy is fraud - most you fucks are. So many scammers today contact programs, do shit like this, backup posts like this.. pfft.

Anyway, what they are doing is illegal. They knowingly profit from piracy, on sites that do not comply with DMCA notices. Making them guilty of the crime and several others. They do it to people they called friends, they do it people they don't know, they help fund more of it.

Look, this isn't on a half piracy site that respond to take down notices. This is massive advertisements piracy sites that do not respond to DMCA notices. If they just stopped on those sites, just those sites, everyone would be happy.

Please don't confuse me with someone that won't call out names or say what is on my mind. My filter is pretty much on zero all the time. I don't have "friends" in this business - I have people I do business with and assholes that act like friends but as soon as you say one honest thing to them, they aren't friends anymore.

I don't call people out because it's cool. I do it because people are fuck tards and deserve a lot more than random bitching on a forum that doesn't give a shit what I say anyway because I'm not the person paying them.


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