Partnership - Are you about to launch/revive a paysite ?
 

Selling porn nowadays isn't about the porn itself. Hasn't been, for a while. Cock in mouth, cum on face, dp, in and of themselves, meh. Who cares anymore, it's been done to death and seen ad nauseam.

The setting matters, and a lot. Having a story behind the sluts on display is what sells, and makes you rich. That's the bangbus, there's thousands of sites out there with hoes on display, but the story made it a brand, as it made girls gone wild, as it made suicide girls, as it made pretty much anything valuable these past years.

Why's the dupre skank worth money, well above and beyond the 500-1k the average working girl makes for the average scene ? Story. Why's anyone give a shit about the Hilton skank ? Story.

More importantly, story is the moat, that thing that sets a business apart in Warren Buffett's eyes.

Original content is good, but it's nowhere that good. It's pretty much ran dry by now, because what are you going to do ? Triple penetration ? Quadruple ? Aliens ?

Unless you're willing to move on to bestiality, snuff etc, all you can do with content has already been done, a million times.

A good story, which means a good idea, well written, that's not only just as copyrighted as any set of pictures or vids, but a lot more defensible. Once because without you it crumbles into meaninglessness. Twice because google looks for stolen text and punishes people on your behalf.

So now on to the business side of things :

I'm looking to work in a partnership with someone here. You will provide the infrastructure (handle website) ; payment processing ; legal compliance etc ; content (pics and vids). I will provide a storyline for your girl/concept. We share revenue.

Shoot me an email at
http://polimedia.us/email.jpg
and we can discuss it further.

I muchly prefer good quality paysites - that means, by importance :

1) Where you can show you've already got some traffic, and a decent budget. Many people will try to start a paysite on a shoestring, and to them any partnership is a great opportunity to keep costs down. Sadly, most those ideas die before they breathe their first breath. Ideally, you're not into this for cost control, but revenue generation.

2) While it's not critical you're an actual corp, it's preferable. Will deal with dbas/c corps/individuals, but on a more cautious basis.

3) Where the girl is still active. We can put all the effort into bringing to life the porny shell of a departed model, but it's a lot of work that'll die a slow painful death and soon enough.

4) Where the content is good and the girl is serious - webcam twice a week + pics + vids is way better than pics + vids. webcam twice a week + pics + vids + weekly features in x club is even better, etc. Basically, the more professional and dedicated the girl, the more points you score here.

Note that written contract will be required, make sure you will be able to sign, seal and mail before you even bother.

Thanks for reading.

That has to be the ugliest fucking font I've seen in my life.

I have a notebook of ideas as well. Um I'm rich biatch I guess. Oh wait I have experience running, developing, promoting, and everything else with a paysite. You have what, an idea? Do you offer anything else really? Oh and while I am at it, you have come off as slightly wierd on here, would you admit your old nick in public before this goes on any longer in this thread.

I see the really aggitated brigade is up and kicking. Nice.

Tis not "an idea". I have no idea, I just have writers. You'd better have at least an inkling of an idea, especially if you've been shooting already.

You strike me like the sort of nerd that'd call up cheerleaders before the prom to let them know he won't be inviting them.

Pot meet kettle, kettle meet black.

im lost.

This thread is a joke, right?

The thread itself is serious, but there's the occasional joker that can't control the urge to post.

well we all know well written porn is what surfers are looking for....I mean look at Brazzers, their shit is like Oscar worthy....

Oscars, you mean Emmys do you ?

But either way, you think more random girls in the same poses equals money, go right ahead.

This is for the people who want to build something. Not your cup of tea.

yeah you may want to call Twistys and tell them they have it all wrong and they should hire you as a consultant.

i am a duck.

The first thing I think of when I see hooters is good sentence construction and a believable story.

The first thing I think of when I see a post of yours is that you're a well travelled, wise individual in an excellent position to judge the entire world by his own shoesize.

Ah, but as a content writer, you are certainly one to profess your own abilities and how people need you, much like the first guy who learned meta tags and claimed he was an SEO wizard.

The written word. It has made the world as you know it possible. Other than that, your comparison doesn't work on either branch.

You overestimate the grunting and guttural noises of most surfers, and indeed, most webmasters. URK URK URK!

There's the business : If 99.9% of webmasters chase 90% of surfers, then the bright remaining 0.1% webmasters can do very well on the remaining 10% surfers.

This topic will deliver for sure. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The other 10% of those who know what they want, but are not smart enough to find it for free? If you wanna go microniche, I suppose you can find somebody who wants to buy tranny midget amputee stumpfucking crush videos.

ha ha, good one :)

You've got a straw man factory somewhere obviously.

This isn't about micro niche, and smart = tubes is a stupidity of the same caliber as porn = image only.

Smart people, and rich people, and as time goes by people in general will go for the better service. If you think twisty's is the best possible service, a lot of things on the adult net must be a mystery to you.

Your service is not worth a percentage of a paysite.


End of story

You're misquoting the wrong people, just FYI. Twisty's content is great, but their members area is saturated. There are other options. I just highly doubt that a semi-decent 'writ' about a story is going to pull out some of the world's shittiest screencaps, or visa versa.

Lots of people don't care about the text, much as you believe that offering a story to someone who wants to jerk off is a better service than giving them a nice little streaming FLV. Let's face it, we're not in a generation of noble laureates, and people are just getting dumber. Why do you think that your ability to type is worth more than 50 shitty movies converted into FLV with a pretty new graphical redesign?

Semi-decent "writ" is not what we're talking about, and as far as wisdom goes, when in doubt, experiment.

It's just different ways of looking at the world. Yours a slash and burn, one time one crop sort of approach. That's fine, as long as there's virgin land.

Mine is a more settled agricultural approach. You have to give people a reason to want to be on your site, and to want to come back. That's stuff that has to be meaningful, that they can relate to, and image alone will not deliver that.

Incidentally, there's less and less virgin land.

Thats a stupid thing to say. A service may not be worth x dollars, or y percent of something.

What you're saying is quite simply that content is an afterthought, which is fine, if that's how you want to do business. Just, it's not obligatory.

Believe what you wish, but USENET was around before the web. :thumbsup

Also, the very people you don't want to partner with are the only ones who would be interested in an offer such as this.


If your writing is indeed valuable, you should start your own blog/free site network.... that is if you haven't already. Good original text is welcomed, and you wouldn't have to partner with anyone. Do you really want to chase around money from a partner? Many adult paysites, especially newer ones do not profit. So percentage wise you'll end up with nothing :)


On the other side, most sites think of writing as an accessory, like getting fancy new rims for a car. You can get to the store and back with the old rims just fine. In rare cases unless the text provides TRAFFIC, it's not worth it.

As much as I respect any entrepreneur trying to make it in this world I really wonder a bit about this:

I'm looking to work in a partnership with someone here. You will provide the infrastructure (handle website) ; payment processing ; legal compliance etc ; content (pics and vids). I will provide a storyline for your girl/concept. We share revenue.

All the things you demand your partner to show up with is NOT cheap and very time-consuming, yet your job will ONLY be to come up with a storyline. That's it, you provide a storyline... a STORYLINE? in exchange of revenue? That's like saying "I helped you across the street now give me 50% of your money".

Legendary.

:eek7 :eek7

Last I recall, he sold his 'fucking webmasters for profit' business.

Not really, maybe you misread.

There's this ridiculous outlook of the industry today, where text must sit over here (call it blogs) and images must sit over here, and the two should always be on different websites. Why ?

There's no natural cause for it, other than people suck at organising things to start with, and then just lemming along.

Which, as I'm saying, is an silly proposition on it's face, silly enough to be worth testing it out.

It only appears to say that because that's what you want to read into it. Which, again, is fine. This would not be your cup of tea.

By your rationale, a publisher and an author can not work together, because printing presses are NOT cheap and very time consuming. Incidentally, nobody can ever be an affiliate, either.

Wow. This is a dead art. I should call you 'Bard'

Interesting website....ERP, Logistics, Efficiency and Corporate Management. Out of curiosity is Polimedia your company or are you a representative of the firm?

I'm one of the partners.

Actually, this is a pretty spot on summary.

Bravo.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Much like you want your "partner" to cover all recruiting the women, production, all costs associated with that, expenses for design and bandwidth, website management, promotion, processing, support, and essentially everything that encompasses the day-to-day operations that make up 99% of a site....

and in return you want a 50/50 split for providing a storyline?

:helpme

You must be fucking kidding.

Where'd you got your numbers from ?

The adult business is not rocket science so saying you will come up with a storyline seem to be just another way of saying "I can't make money with my own stuff so let's see who wants to offer me something". That's how it sounds to me but I'm not a program owner so it might sound different to them.

Seriously... coming up with a storyline for a paysite is not program owners biggest problem. Any horny man can think of something like "hey let's drive around in a truck and bang babes". It's going through our minds 12 times per minute unless you've just had great sex and is sleeping.

But again... go for it. Just because I don't agree doesn't mean I'm right. I just think you need to bring much more to the table than a storyline :)

Free story for anyone to use.

Guy is an ass on gfy. Guy gets banned. Guy comes back with a picture of a girl as his avatar with a nick that leads people to believe he is a girl. Guy does not impress anyone. Guy eventually is found out again and gets banned again. :1orglaugh

Thats about the norm for you.

:)

so basically your partner is going to do all the work and take all the risk while you right cute little text stories and share in the revenue?? ummm..i got an idea for someone who is actually thinking of partnering with you. here it is:

hire a professional writer and save a shitload of money when the site gets successful. this definitely is a pretty funny thread if it's a serious business offer...

:1orglaugh this guy's attitude is too much.

speaking of partnerships, I have a guy who hand crops thumbs very well, and we all know how important well cropped thumbs are... for only 40% of the revenue, he will manually crop all the thumbs in your members area... this offer is only valid for established profitable sites (>1000 members)... only 1 spot available! Act now!

And all the stuff out there reads like it.

It's the nature of the world for everything one doesn't/can't do to seem like nothing at all, and for everything one does to seem like the make all end all.

Sweet :)

Who has FluffyGrrl worked for?

What ideas has she come up with that have worked in the past?

Did she just compare herself to BangBus and GGW?

You can't create the success BangBus and GGW had again. All you can do is put out as many ideas as you possibly can and hope one of them takes off.. And you will never know it will work... Until it works... heh..

EVERYONE has concepts and gimmics for paysites. All of us think on that level. What we don't have is the money and connections to get the site produced and built.