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Grapesoda 01-04-2008 06:36 PM

it's offical: muslims are crazy
 
According to Islamic doctrine, Islam was the primordial religion of mankind, professed by Adam.[111] At some point, a religious split occurred, and God began sending prophets to bring his revelations to the people.[112] In this view, Abraham, Moses, Hebrew prophets, and Jesus were all prophets of Islam, but their message and the texts of the Torah and the Gospels were corrupted by Jews and Christians. Similarly, children of non-Muslim families are born Muslims, but are converted to another faith by their parents.[113] The idea of Islamic supremacy is encapsulated in the formula "Islam is exalted and nothing is exalted above it."[114] Pursuant to this principle, Muslim women may not marry non-Muslim men, defamation of Islam is prohibited, and the testimony of a non-Muslim is inadmissible against a Muslim.[[115]

pulled this off the net, Islam is sorta like Scientology and Later Day Saints, but worse. -bmb

JD 01-04-2008 06:37 PM

bastards.

BlackCrayon 01-04-2008 06:46 PM

They took our jobs!

L-Pink 01-04-2008 06:48 PM

Crazy muslims .....
 
http://www.imagefilez.com/out.php/i2...eb470x3520.jpg

ne0 01-04-2008 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyddddd (Post 13607580)

:thumbsup

OTerror 01-04-2008 07:01 PM

the bastards

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 01-04-2008 07:03 PM

islam hain't got nothing on britney spears...

MicDoohan 01-04-2008 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 13607942)
pulled this off the net,


well say no more :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Profits of Doom 01-04-2008 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 13607942)
According to Islamic doctrine, Islam was the primordial religion of mankind, professed by Adam.[111] At some point, a religious split occurred, and God began sending prophets to bring his revelations to the people.[112] In this view, Abraham, Moses, Hebrew prophets, and Jesus were all prophets of Islam, but their message and the texts of the Torah and the Gospels were corrupted by Jews and Christians. Similarly, children of non-Muslim families are born Muslims, but are converted to another faith by their parents.[113] The idea of Islamic supremacy is encapsulated in the formula "Islam is exalted and nothing is exalted above it."[114] Pursuant to this principle, Muslim women may not marry non-Muslim men, defamation of Islam is prohibited, and the testimony of a non-Muslim is inadmissible against a Muslim.[[115]

pulled this off the net, Islam is sorta like Scientology and Later Day Saints, but worse. -bmb

I could go on a fairly long tangent about this but I won't bother. To say they are fucking crazy is giving them WAY too much credit. A little known fact is Islam adopted many of it's customs, like praying facing Mecca, from Judaism in an attempt by Muhammad to make Islam appeal to the Jews in order to convert them. Needless to say they resisted and that was the start of the Muslim hatred of Jews.

As for the part about "the testimony of a non-Muslim is inadmissible against a Muslim", this was brought about as a way to have free reign to commit crimes against the Jews that inhabited Muslim lands hundreds of years before Islam was an itch in Muhammad's pants. The next time someone bitches about returning land to the Palestinians they should ask Iraq, Jordan, Syria, etc to return all of the land, money, businesses, etc they stole from the Jews before they exiled them from their countries, even though they lived and prospered there long before Islam existed...:2 cents:

Grapesoda 01-04-2008 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 13608252)
A little known fact is Islam adopted many of it's customs, like praying facing Mecca, from Judaism


I'm pretty clear about this one from my own study. after reading and studying religions and cultures since I was a little kid, I've finally reached some interesting conclusions. -bmb

buzzy 01-04-2008 08:57 PM

Sorry but Islam is alot more logical and simple than Christianity. People like you and Profits of Doom make me sick really. I've studied all three major religions during my time at uni and people like you two have become an epidemic, I seriously think it is some sort of mental illness, obsessed with muslims.

Profits of Doom you could not be further from base, "praying facing Mecca, from Judaism, to Mecca in an attempt to make Islam appeal". That sentence makes no sense anyway. Muslims don't hate Jews, that's a pretty huge generalization to make, most of the hatred comes from the current Israel-Palestine conflict, not because of some fairy tale in your propaganda book.

There are around 1.5 Billion Muslims in the world, and it is growing fast, it is set to overtake Christianity in the next 5 years, 50,000 people in the USA converting each year, most of them women and not for no reason. I don't care if people diss religion, but at least have your facts right, I hear people everyday talk shit about Muslims and stuff but they have no Idea what they are talking about, I have a few Muslims at my workplace, and guess what surprise surprise they are human beings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamophobia

Shakula 01-04-2008 09:02 PM

Christianity is the biggest hoax ever.

Odin 01-04-2008 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buzzy (Post 13608399)
Sorry but Islam is alot more logical and simple than Christianity. People like you and Profits of Doom make me sick really. I've studied all three major religions during my time at uni and people like you two have become an epidemic, I seriously think it is some sort of mental illness, obsessed with muslims.

Profits of Doom you could not be further from base, "praying facing Mecca, from Judaism, to Mecca in an attempt to make Islam appeal". That sentence makes no sense anyway. Muslims don't hate Jews, that's a pretty huge generalization to make, most of the hatred comes from the current Israel-Palestine conflict, not because of some fairy tale in your propaganda book.

There are around 1.5 Billion Muslims in the world, and it is growing fast, it is set to overtake Christianity in the next 5 years, 50,000 people in the USA converting each year, most of them women and not for no reason. I don't care if people diss religion, but at least have your facts right, I hear people everyday talk shit about Muslims and stuff but they have no Idea what they are talking about, I have a few Muslims at my workplace, and guess what surprise surprise they are human beings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamophobia

Islam is a more straight-forward religion than Christianity certainly, but than again it was created several hundred years later by a war-lord over decades of debate, etc with local Jewish people who laughed at him, etc. If you put Muhammad's life into perspective it is so obviously a non-divine one (need we mention that he consummated his marriage to a girl when she was aged 9? or that when he moved to Medina with his followers [who at the time were almost entirely outcasts from other clans, ex-slaves, etc] they attacked and stole from passing caravans to support themselves?) But it doesn't really make any more sense than Christianity, it is still a load of shit, only a load of a shit that is easier to read and understand.

The problem with Islam though is the compulsion it has over an individual, since they literally believe the Koran is the word of God, nothing in it (unlike Christianity) is really up for debate or change. Whilst there are differing view points on things like Jihad, etc there are also a lot of commands in there that can't be viewed in any way other than negative (from a modern Western perspective). That said, in Muslim lands time and time again it has been shown that whilst there are a huge number of moderate, even non-religious Muslims they struggle to find the cohesion and strength that the fundamentalists have.

Also don't believe the propoganda about it being the faster growing religion in the world. It is a typical tribal, war-lord (think Hitler with the Germans and his constant references to willpower overcoming firepower, etc) trait to portray their situation as one in which they are struggling and oppressed, but they are on the rise and will win. Christianity is growing much more quickly in other parts of the world, like Sub-Saharan Africa and China and which is the fastest growing faith is up to debate very honestly. If Islam is indeed the fastest growing though, it has more to do with birth-rates than conversions.

Profits of Doom 01-04-2008 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buzzy (Post 13608399)
Sorry but Islam is alot more logical and simple than Christianity. People like you and Profits of Doom make me sick really. I've studied all three major religions during my time at uni and people like you two have become an epidemic, I seriously think it is some sort of mental illness, obsessed with muslims.

Profits of Doom you could not be further from base, "praying facing Mecca, from Judaism, to Mecca in an attempt to make Islam appeal". That sentence makes no sense anyway. Muslims don't hate Jews, that's a pretty huge generalization to make, most of the hatred comes from the current Israel-Palestine conflict, not because of some fairy tale in your propaganda book.

There are around 1.5 Billion Muslims in the world, and it is growing fast, it is set to overtake Christianity in the next 5 years, 50,000 people in the USA converting each year, most of them women and not for no reason. I don't care if people diss religion, but at least have your facts right, I hear people everyday talk shit about Muslims and stuff but they have no Idea what they are talking about, I have a few Muslims at my workplace, and guess what surprise surprise they are human beings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamophobia

If the sentence doesn't make sense to you it is because of your lack of reading comprehension. I stated that "A little known fact is Islam adopted many of it's customs, like praying facing Mecca, from Judaism in an attempt by Muhammad to make Islam appeal to the Jews in order to convert them." That is 100% fact. Type that sentence into Google and read up a bit there, sparky. From this website, http://www.mb-soft.com/believe/txo/islam.htm, "After these months, Muhammad's relations with the Jews in Medina had become more strained. At first, he had hoped to be accepted by them as a Prophet, because he had always emphasized that the message that he was preaching was no different from that of Moses. He had even adopted many Jewish practices. When the Jews would not recognize him as a true prophet, the Islamic aspects of the "religion of Abraham" soon developed. Jews were soon either banished from Medina or exterminated." He adopted the Jewish practice of praying while facing Jerusalem (and substituted Mecca) in an attempt to gain recognition from the Jews, which he never received. He then switched from trying to gain their acceptance to attempting to exterminate them.

I don't read propaganda books like the Koran, and couldn't give a shit about religion. The Muslim hatred of Jews was perpetuated by Muhammad, and the Palestinian/Israeli conflict is just a convenient excuse. The Jews lost far more land, money, businesses, etc to the new Arab regimes that took power in the Middle Eastern countries that the Jews inhabited long before the creation of Islam. I also studied all of the major religions in college and everything I stated is historical fact, so if you don't like it put me on ignore and move on with your life...

Grapesoda 01-04-2008 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief (Post 13608460)
Islam is a more straight-forward religion than Christianity certainly, but than again it was created several hundred years later by a war-lord over decades of debate, etc with local Jewish people who laughed at him, etc. If you put Muhammad's life into perspective it is so obviously a non-divine one (need we mention that he consummated his marriage to a girl when she was aged 9? or that when he moved to Medina with his followers [who at the time were almost entirely outcasts from other clans, ex-slaves, etc] they attacked and stole from passing caravans to support themselves?) But it doesn't really make any more sense than Christianity, it is still a load of shit, only a load of a shit that is easier to read and understand.

The problem with Islam though is the compulsion it has over an individual, since they literally believe the Koran is the word of God, nothing in it (unlike Christianity) is really up for debate or change. Whilst there are differing view points on things like Jihad, etc there are also a lot of commands in there that can't be viewed in any way other than negative (from a modern Western perspective). That said, in Muslim lands time and time again it has been shown that whilst there are a huge number of moderate, even non-religious Muslims they struggle to find the cohesion and strength that the fundamentalists have.

Also don't believe the propoganda about it being the faster growing religion in the world. It is a typical tribal, war-lord (think Hitler with the Germans and his constant references to willpower overcoming firepower, etc) trait to portray their situation as one in which they are struggling and oppressed, but they are on the rise and will win. Christianity is growing much more quickly in other parts of the world, like Sub-Saharan Africa and China and which is the fastest growing faith is up to debate very honestly. If Islam is indeed the fastest growing though, it has more to do with birth-rates than conversions.

islam is r-selective

marcop 01-04-2008 09:21 PM

I hope y'all realize that all this shit is nonsense.

Vick! 01-04-2008 09:22 PM

Well, God has been showing the "right path" to mankind since Adam. In every era this "right path" was named differently, at one point it was Judaism, at other it was Christianity and at the end it was called Islam.

All these biggest religions are from same, one, God.

But yeah, people have been making changes to the religions by adding things they like and by subtracting things they don't, for their personal gains.

Jews did that, Christians did that and now finally Muslims are also doing this .. and its worst, as they kill for their personal gains and call it killing for Allah. Whereas, Islam clearly says:

who ever kills one innocent soul, will be punished as if he killed all mankind.

and

if you save one human life, you will be rewarded like if you saved all humanity.

:2 cents:

Grapesoda 01-04-2008 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buzzy (Post 13608399)
Sorry but Islam is alot more logical and simple than Christianity. People like you and Profits of Doom make me sick really. I've studied all three major religions during my time at uni and people like you two have become an epidemic, I seriously think it is some sort of mental illness, obsessed with muslims.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=h7iBoq_yC4k

tony286 01-04-2008 09:23 PM

this is why we should get off oil and become energy independent.

buzzy 01-04-2008 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief (Post 13608460)
Islam is a more straight-forward religion than Christianity certainly, but than again it was created several hundred years later by a war-lord over decades of debate, etc with local Jewish people who laughed at him, etc. If you put Muhammad's life into perspective it is so obviously a non-divine one (need we mention that he consummated his marriage to a girl when she was aged 9? or that when he moved to Medina with his followers [who at the time were almost entirely outcasts from other clans, ex-slaves, etc] they attacked and stole from passing caravans to support themselves?) But it doesn't really make any more sense than Christianity, it is still a load of shit, only a load of a shit that is easier to read and understand.

The problem with Islam though is the compulsion it has over an individual, since they literally believe the Koran is the word of God, nothing in it (unlike Christianity) is really up for debate or change. Whilst there are differing view points on things like Jihad, etc there are also a lot of commands in there that can't be viewed in any way other than negative (from a modern Western perspective). That said, in Muslim lands time and time again it has been shown that whilst there are a huge number of moderate, even non-religious Muslims they struggle to find the cohesion and strength that the fundamentalists have.

Also don't believe the propoganda about it being the faster growing religion in the world. It is a typical tribal, war-lord (think Hitler with the Germans and his constant references to willpower overcoming firepower, etc) trait to portray their situation as one in which they are struggling and oppressed, but they are on the rise and will win. Christianity is growing much more quickly in other parts of the world, like Sub-Saharan Africa and China and which is the fastest growing faith is up to debate very honestly. If Islam is indeed the fastest growing though, it has more to do with birth-rates than conversions.

Good post, finally a post from a sane person. There are always going to be people taking religion out of context, I guess it is more of an excuse to do it now since we are in times of conflict all over the world. Muhammed didn't recieve his divine messages untill he was 40 I believe, when he went up to the mountains and meditated (alot like Bhudda).

I'm almost certain the point I made about it being the fastest growing was from a solid source, while I don't know if it is conversions or birth rates, I do know that in the USA it is 50k a year and growing, so it might be birth rates in the rest of the world. The reason why people are converting is because it is straight forward and makes sense, contaray to Christianity.

But ya, it does seem to grasp quite a scary control over the person, if you compare a Muslims faith to any other it dosen't compare, they don't fear anything, not even death which is why I think they get a little attracted to fighting heh. :thumbsup

yahoo-xxx-girls.com 01-04-2008 09:25 PM

Religion breads fanaticism, the real question is to what extreme.

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Grapesoda 01-04-2008 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vick! (Post 13608487)
Well, God has been showing the "right path" to mankind since Adam. In every era this "right path" was named differently, at one point it was Judaism, at other it was Christianity and at the end it was called Islam.

All these biggest religions are from same, one, God.

But yeah, people have been making changes to the religions by adding things they like and by subtracting things they don't, for their personal gains.

Jews did that, Christians did that and now finally Muslims are also doing this .. and its worst, as they kill for their personal gains and call it killing for Allah. Whereas, Islam clearly says:

who ever kills one innocent soul, will be punished as if he killed all mankind.

and

if you save one human life, you will be rewarded like if you saved all humanity.

:2 cents:

yes but as a woman you have no valid opinion according to islam and christianity. jews do a bit better in that department.

Odin 01-04-2008 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vick! (Post 13608487)
Well, God has been showing the "right path" to mankind since Adam. In every era this "right path" was named differently, at one point it was Judaism, at other it was Christianity and at the end it was called Islam.

All these biggest religions are from same, one, God.

But yeah, people have been making changes to the religions by adding things they like and by subtracting things they don't, for their personal gains.

Jews did that, Christians did that and now finally Muslims are also doing this .. and its worst, as they kill for their personal gains and call it killing for Allah. Whereas, Islam clearly says:

who ever kills one innocent soul, will be punished as if he killed all mankind.

and

if you save one human life, you will be rewarded like if you saved all humanity.

:2 cents:

Whilst I'd encourage these 'interpretations' of Islam, there are many more that contradict them in the Koran, and what they consider an 'innocent soul' isn't necessarily the same as what we would today. It's very simple, look at Mohammed's life and it is plain and simple. The guy had two POET's assassinated for making public satires about him after all, and you think the guys who kidnap and kill journalists for being 'anti-Islamic' aren't acting in accordance with Islam? Come on now, if I were them I know where I'd get my inspiration.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asma_bint_Marwan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_%27Afak

Grapesoda 01-04-2008 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shakula (Post 13608415)
Christianity is the biggest hoax ever.


what about 'paul is dead'?

buzzy 01-04-2008 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 13608469)
I don't read propaganda books like the Koran

Which is why you have no fucking idea what you are talking about. :2 cents:. You studied all major religions but didn't read the books. :1orglaugh. I'm allergic to bullshit.

Grapesoda 01-04-2008 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buzzy (Post 13608498)
The reason why people are converting is

can't cope with the advances of modern life. techmology is overwhelming to some folks. islam is anti democracy.

Vick! 01-04-2008 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 13608520)
yes but as a woman you have no valid opinion according to islam and christianity. jews do a bit better in that department.

WTF? :helpme

I am man dude. :pimp

Grapesoda 01-04-2008 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buzzy (Post 13608498)
they don't fear anything, not even death

that goes against nature. all living things try and avoid death, islam is a homosexual death cult.

buzzy 01-04-2008 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 13608541)
that goes against nature. all living things try and avoid death, islam is a homosexual death cult.

You suffer from a mental illness.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamophobia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophobia

Get it treated, quick. :error

Grapesoda 01-04-2008 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vick! (Post 13608540)
WTF? :helpme

I am man dude. :pimp

you sure? :)

Profits of Doom 01-04-2008 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buzzy (Post 13608528)
Which is why you have no fucking idea what you are talking about. :2 cents:. You studied all major religions but didn't read the books. :1orglaugh. I'm allergic to bullshit.

Then your own odor most be triggering quite the allergic reaction. Nope, I never read the entire Koran and don't intend to. That is not a prerequisite to studying the history and customs of the religion. If you don't understand that I can't help you. After reading my entire post that is the only thing you could pick out to comment on? Wow, that's pretty fucking weak...

Vick! 01-04-2008 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief (Post 13608525)
It's very simple, look at Mohammed's life and it is plain and simple. The guy had two POET's assassinated for making public satires about him after all

These are called laws dude. Every other country, and every other religion have laws/rules of its own, I am not an expert on Islam or any other religion but may be it was law in Islam?

We have death penalty for many things in todays' civilized world, Christianity must have death penalty for something, so as Judaism.

Aren't we supposed to obey the laws of the land we live on? What will you do to me if I am caught with 500g of marijuana on US airport, even if its all for my very personal use?

Those poets were assumed to obey the laws of the land they live on.

:2 cents:

Vick! 01-04-2008 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 13608551)
you sure? :)

The last time I checked, I was a man, but let me check again to make sure :winkwink:

Odin 01-04-2008 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vick! (Post 13608582)
These are called laws dude. Every other country, and every other religion have laws/rules of its own, I am not an expert on Islam or any other religion but may be it was law in Islam?

We have death penalty for many things in todays' civilized world, Christianity must have death penalty for something, so as Judaism.

Aren't we supposed to obey the laws of the land we live on? What will you do to me if I am caught with 500g of marijuana on US airport, even if its all for my very personal use?

Those poets were assumed to obey the laws of the land they live on.

:2 cents:

All I can say is you make no sense. On the one hand you claim it is a fundamentally peaceful religion, when I show you examples from their Prophet that shows otherwise you state whether or not they are brutal or non-peaceful is irrelevant so long as it is law of the land? Naive much?

V_RocKs 01-04-2008 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buzzy (Post 13608399)
Sorry but Islam is alot more logical and simple than Christianity. People like you and Profits of Doom make me sick really. I've studied all three major religions during my time at uni and people like you two have become an epidemic, I seriously think it is some sort of mental illness, obsessed with muslims.

Profits of Doom you could not be further from base, "praying facing Mecca, from Judaism, to Mecca in an attempt to make Islam appeal". That sentence makes no sense anyway. Muslims don't hate Jews, that's a pretty huge generalization to make, most of the hatred comes from the current Israel-Palestine conflict, not because of some fairy tale in your propaganda book.

There are around 1.5 Billion Muslims in the world, and it is growing fast, it is set to overtake Christianity in the next 5 years, 50,000 people in the USA converting each year, most of them women and not for no reason. I don't care if people diss religion, but at least have your facts right, I hear people everyday talk shit about Muslims and stuff but they have no Idea what they are talking about, I have a few Muslims at my workplace, and guess what surprise surprise they are human beings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamophobia



When the planes hit the towers on 911 I worked as a shuttle driver for airports. About 80% of our driver pool was Muslim. About 80% of them cheered. Clapped. Praised Allah for destroying the infidels. Several were dancing. High fives all around.

Don't tell me that the average Muslim isn't a whack job! I worked with more of them than anybody except maybe a taxi driver. They are HELL bent on converting everyone or killing everyone.

I asked a large group of them. We are talking 60 of them or so. What would you guys do if Jihad was declared in America and it wasn't some bullshit. It was all clerics in every nation saying it is THAT time. They said they would kill every non-Muslim in sight and martyr themselves if need be. Every one of them nodded and agreed that this would be done. About 10 to 15 of them told me I should convert soon because they were under the impression that 9-11 was a signal that just such a thing was about to happen.

Don't tell me these people aren't nuts. They are a cult and so are Jews and so is Christianity and any other religion. There is no hell! There is no heaven! There are no virgins waiting for you!

buzzy 01-04-2008 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 13608663)
When the planes hit the towers on 911 I worked as a shuttle driver for airports. About 80% of our driver pool was Muslim. About 80% of them cheered. Clapped. Praised Allah for destroying the infidels. Several were dancing. High fives all around.

Don't tell me that the average Muslim isn't a whack job! I worked with more of them than anybody except maybe a taxi driver. They are HELL bent on converting everyone or killing everyone.

I asked a large group of them. We are talking 60 of them or so. What would you guys do if Jihad was declared in America and it wasn't some bullshit. It was all clerics in every nation saying it is THAT time. They said they would kill every non-Muslim in sight and martyr themselves if need be. Every one of them nodded and agreed that this would be done. About 10 to 15 of them told me I should convert soon because they were under the impression that 9-11 was a signal that just such a thing was about to happen.

Don't tell me these people aren't nuts. They are a cult and so are Jews and so is Christianity and any other religion. There is no hell! There is no heaven! There are no virgins waiting for you!

So why didn't they kill every infidel in sight? The virgin thing is a myth btw. I believe what you said but i thik it's a little unfair to base your judgment on 1.5 billion people from a few people you met at an airport.

V_RocKs 01-04-2008 11:49 PM

The only reason the religion has prospered like it has is because it is a religion that is spread by the sword. The Christian way wasn't working well enough so Mohammad came up with one that would work even better. Put things back to the way they were before Christ came in and fucked it all up with peace and love.

Rochard 01-05-2008 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 13608252)
I could go on a fairly long tangent about this but I won't bother. To say they are fucking crazy is giving them WAY too much credit. A little known fact is Islam adopted many of it's customs, like praying facing Mecca, from Judaism in an attempt by Muhammad to make Islam appeal to the Jews in order to convert them. Needless to say they resisted and that was the start of the Muslim hatred of Jews.

As for the part about "the testimony of a non-Muslim is inadmissible against a Muslim", this was brought about as a way to have free reign to commit crimes against the Jews that inhabited Muslim lands hundreds of years before Islam was an itch in Muhammad's pants. The next time someone bitches about returning land to the Palestinians they should ask Iraq, Jordan, Syria, etc to return all of the land, money, businesses, etc they stole from the Jews before they exiled them from their countries, even though they lived and prospered there long before Islam existed...:2 cents:

Tell us how you REALLY feel!

buzzy 01-05-2008 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 13608974)
The only reason the religion has prospered like it has is because it is a religion that is spread by the sword. The Christian way wasn't working well enough so Mohammad came up with one that would work even better. Put things back to the way they were before Christ came in and fucked it all up with peace and love.

The point that people bring up about Islam being spread by the sword is a myth made up by Christians to play down the significance of Islam.

http://www.themodernreligion.com/convert/sword.html

Rochard 01-05-2008 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 13608663)
When the planes hit the towers on 911 I worked as a shuttle driver for airports. About 80% of our driver pool was Muslim. About 80% of them cheered. Clapped. Praised Allah for destroying the infidels. Several were dancing. High fives all around.

Don't tell me that the average Muslim isn't a whack job! I worked with more of them than anybody except maybe a taxi driver. They are HELL bent on converting everyone or killing everyone.

I asked a large group of them. We are talking 60 of them or so. What would you guys do if Jihad was declared in America and it wasn't some bullshit. It was all clerics in every nation saying it is THAT time. They said they would kill every non-Muslim in sight and martyr themselves if need be. Every one of them nodded and agreed that this would be done. About 10 to 15 of them told me I should convert soon because they were under the impression that 9-11 was a signal that just such a thing was about to happen.

Don't tell me these people aren't nuts. They are a cult and so are Jews and so is Christianity and any other religion. There is no hell! There is no heaven! There are no virgins waiting for you!

Disgusting.

The day after 9/11 I remember watching crowds in other countries cheering and burning the US flag. It was horrible and disgusting. These people are fucking cowards. All of them. They slaughtered innocent people by the thousands for no real reason. And when we came after them, they hid. Fucking cowards.

What we need is a President with balls. We need a President that will say "If you do this to us again we'll kill every last one of you". And when it happens - and you know it will - that's exactly what we do.

Shakula 01-05-2008 12:29 AM

atheism - be smarter then others..

buzzy 01-05-2008 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 13609086)
Disgusting.

The day after 9/11 I remember watching crowds in other countries cheering and burning the US flag. It was horrible and disgusting. These people are fucking cowards. All of them. They slaughtered innocent people by the thousands for no real reason. And when we came after them, they hid. Fucking cowards.

What we need is a President with balls. We need a President that will say "If you do this to us again we'll kill every last one of you". And when it happens - and you know it will - that's exactly what we do.

You get Jews cheering when Muslims are killed, you get people cheering when Americans are killed, you get MExicans cheering when Americans are killed. It's worldwide dude, not just America, just because some people attacked you, there is no logic in putting the burden on a community of 1.5 billion people.

VRocks, what I want to know is, instead of saying they are insane and stuff (they were if they were cheering btw i agree) why didn't you deal with them at the airport? lol

V_RocKs 01-05-2008 04:26 AM

Deal with them? I am not the one wanting to kill people....

Godsmack 01-05-2008 04:56 AM

I think all religions are weird, not only Islam..
religions causes people to stop thinking about stuff because they have all the "answers" already.

Violetta 01-05-2008 05:03 AM

religions have gone too far

Grapesoda 01-05-2008 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by buzzy (Post 13609080)
The point that people bring up about Islam being spread by the sword is a myth made up by Christians to play down the significance of Islam.

http://www.themodernreligion.com/convert/sword.html

written by: Sherif Mohammed.


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