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Mainstream vs Adult. An Observation.
1. Mainstream has 100 times as many working for beer money that adult.
2. Mainstream 'webmasters' are willing to sell off their sites at ridiculously low prices. Clone, rename, and do it again for $25 3. Mainstream people, the vast majority, do not seem to have a fucking clue what a domain, or website are worth. 4. Few mainstream people work online as their full time job. 5. There are just as many retards asshats in mainstream, but the difference is their board rule with an iron fist. 6. A large chunk of mainstream hang on every word of shoebitch as if he is all knowing. 7. There are just as many ass eaters, and supposed online celebrities in mainstream as the Lars of adult. 8. Fraud, rips offs, scams are even more ridiculous, and frequent on mainstream. Yes, that is really sad. 9. People in mainstream do not seem to be able to know how to gauge traffic, SE index, or value of listings. 10. A lot of mainstream do not seem to have a fucking clue about domains, SEO, or how type in's work. Nor what is truly considered traffic, or what 'conversions' mean w/o shady tactics. If you are in mainstream, what have YOU noticed? |
i think anyone in their right mind would read this board and think every single person in adult is a total fucking retard.
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i think anyone in their right mind would read this board and think every single person in adult is a total fucking retard.
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Pleasurepays does have a point there. If what you know about the people in mainstream is from their boards, and those boards are like this one, then you're really not getting an accurate picture of how the "biz" actually works.
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Same for exits, any exit they pop generally goes unpaid to the affiliate. Then you have sponsors that slap adsense on their homepages and you can bet your not getting a cut of that. Generally speaking, I find mainstream marketing more shady in the techniques that affiliate programs do. Adult, it seems to be the affiliate that's doing shady techniques to get the sale. WG |
either you're fucking or fucked it's the way of the internet... sadly...
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Yupers all off the above and then some. Some of the stuff they come up with makes me wander off scratching my head in amazement at times. :)
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I love how people who do not have, nor have ever had a pay, or membership site, claim to know what it's worth. I thought adult was ridiculous with low balling, insulting offers. But it's nothing compared to mainstream. People with actual websites, some adsense sales, or some quality traffic selling their shit for $25. Some domains that are excellent for type in's or awesome if they had a site attached selling for $5. Ridiculous. :disgust |
I absolutely hate domain squatters. They just park the domain name then sell it for ridiculous prices. Ughh!!
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the demographics amaze me
more than 50% of mainstream so called webmasters are teenagers they have no concept of the idea that the money they expect to live off of forever without having to get a real job actually has to come from somewhere they don't realize that the way things are today might be completely different in a year or two they have a sense of entitlement where they see no wrong in scamming there way to money (ie. "wtf? adsense banned me those assholes" etc...) the third world countries seem to have even more of the above, sometimes I wonder if every second teenager that has the internet in some of these countries is a 'webmaster' |
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got the number from polls on the largest mainstream webmaster board (dp) I think the number was higher than 50%, so I put 50% down to be conservative |
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Guess I have some posting to do. FYI, most adult webmasters don't post here or anywhere else either. |
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:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh 4% of a 10 dollar book. i know this is a terrible assumption of what mainstream is, but how be damned if i'm giving up the good markets that i'm working in so everyone can try to run into them. and yes, what bare says is true true true. its even worse on the know it all level with a lot of these so called "experts" i don't post on any mainstream boards, but i read several religiously. my :2 cents: is your adult experience is tens times as valuable and you should not listen to any of these kooks who say they are a seo genius this or an AM Guru that. Mold your own path and fuck them all. Blah blah blah. :2 cents: |
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well, I believe those numbers are in the range of being a true estimation
that is how sampling works, you get an idea of an overall percentage even though you only sample in a small area (of course you are correct in the thought that the percentage could be inaccurate) I went and looked up the polls to get exact numbers... webmasters that responded to mainstream board poll: 18 and under - 33.14% 19 to 21 - 18.34% 22 to 25 - 21.3% 26 to 35 - 14.2% 36 and up - 7.1% take it for what it's worth |
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Somewhere out there is a post on a mainstream board saying pretty much the same thing about adult webmasters. :1orglaugh |
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try a mainstream/adult site like www.GetRichInPorn.com work with all traffic
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....anyways, my post wasn't intended to be a discussion of exact statistics.... I just meant that there are alot of damn kids in mainstream :1orglaugh
instead of saying 50% and getting challenged on the nitty gritty, I should have just said that it seems half of the people posting on mainstream boards are under 19 |
....searching mainstream forums right now for "i was reading adult forums... this DonnyLong guy must be really important" threads now...
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Mainstream has MANY more niches. There are people in the most obscure niches that you never heard of who are making a bank. Thing is, it's not easy to get in to one of these and the amount of misinformation out there is paramount, with some exceptions.
And it's kinda sad - even if you consider the gfy demographics, people in adult seem a lot smarter than their mainstream counterparts. Percentage of dumbasses there is staggering. |
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To continue..
The ages really do show on mainstream. Either that, or they are some of the least intelligent, no money having people I've come across in the online business at times. People selling off domains for $5. Decent designed sites for $25. Clone and resell them over and over for what?!!?!?? $5-10 profit?!?!?? People who can't recognize good SEO domains, type in or otherwise when it's right there in your google, or overture results. Idiots who can't understand a membership site, and how it's golden compared to some other niches. I mean, I could go on, and on. But what I am getting at is the collective cluelesssness, and no money having know-it-alls. |
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Or tell me where they're selling this shit so cheap so I can buy some. |
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However on almost everything I bought up, I turned a profit simply on the turn around. Bought sites for $50/200/500 and a few months later sold them for 4+ times the value. If you have some money, and time, you could easily do this alone. Between snapping up golden domains, and sites. But my point was that few seem to know, or understand the true value of their properties. :disgust |
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People who think a website that makes a dollar a day in adsense revenue is BIG CHEDDAR. :disgust |
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He didn't just spring up in mainstream and become and overnight hit. |
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He slips up on his show from time to time reinforcing he was a fat, tittie loving creep. But most of the time when I have heard his tails, he "started in the mobile industry. Borrowed everyone's credit cards, and learned adwords". :disgust |
For those in the market for a STEAL...
Some guy on DP is selling custom made, everything included, porn websites (any niche) $150.00 each. Go aand get em while their hot!! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh |
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Good feedback and additions chum. Here's a thumbs up for ye. :thumbsup |
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