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BradM 12-05-2007 12:32 PM

Who owns property in France?
 
I have been looking at real estate in France. Talking about the southern (Riviera) area. Looking for apartments and such which is all I would want since it would be used as a vacation spot only.

Anyone have tips or ideas on how to find some good property in a decent area? If you live(d) there what would you suggest?

theking 12-05-2007 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM (Post 13474523)
I have been looking at real estate in France. Talking about the southern (Riviera) area. Looking for apartments and such which is all I would want since it would be used as a vacation spot only.

Anyone have tips or ideas on how to find some good property in a decent area? If you live(d) there what would you suggest?

Trying to get out of the country before the hammer drops?

GreyWolf 12-05-2007 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM (Post 13474523)
I have been looking at real estate in France. Talking about the southern (Riviera) area. Looking for apartments and such which is all I would want since it would be used as a vacation spot only.

Anyone have tips or ideas on how to find some good property in a decent area? If you live(d) there what would you suggest?

Used to be amazingly cheap Brad - it's one real estate market I missed not playing in years ago.

The French have/had a tendency to assemble into major towns and cities and mean't that in the countryside there was less demands on real estate. There were some exceptional properties on the market at that time - eg a chateau complete with original fixtures - the real deal for.. in current dollar terms, around $240K. One of my partners did buy one - complete with courtyard, stables etc and he paid around $300k - the place is now worth serveral millions.

Sadly now, it's not "cheap" - the Riviera/south coast is fairly expensive, even just for an apartment and, only my :2 cents: - grossly overrated.

Again... only my :2 cents:, but for vacation purposes, would seriously look at what may be perceived as more "exotic" locations - yep, they do exist and a few have the best real estate capital appreciation on the planet (40-50%). Not so familiar with other continents, but there are plenty in the Latin/South American region :thumbsup

dissipate 12-05-2007 01:39 PM

I know beast from frenchcum lives there, may want to talk to him.

BradM 12-05-2007 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 13474537)
Trying to get out of the country before the hammer drops?

Are you gay? You sound like a homosexual.

scottybuzz 12-05-2007 01:54 PM

webby is spot on with his analysis.

However something important to bear in mind.

What may be percieved as the best necessarily isn't.

For example, you may think that the south east is the best, keep an eye out for the south west, Same weather, same properties, same restuarants, same style, less money, less tourists and the same general feel.
South of Perpinon(spelling is bad for french names) sainte cypriene i went to a few years ago and it was the nicest holiday town i had been too.

If you disagree, and do look for the popular areas, then an apartment in the town of Frejus is worth a look.
St Tropez is also nice, but very expensive obviously, not just properties, cabs, resturants, bakeries all over charge.
Nice is a wonderful city and you would not go wrong there.

stay clear of sainte maxine, i went to the beach there once and never returned, they was all types of rubbish floating about.

However you are not the only one moving there for holidays, the village where we have rented a house for the past 17 years recently had a supermarket built in it, yes a super market in a village! When we first went there it didnt even have a shop

Anyway good luck and i know this area pretty well so if you want any more help just pop on icq

xmas13 12-05-2007 02:00 PM

http://www.montecarlo-realestate.com...naco/7-studio/

About 1.5-2M US dollars for a studio/one bedroom apartment in Monte Carlo, Monaco.

CIVMatt 12-05-2007 02:03 PM

I just watched sicko last night and I'm ready to move too

BradM 12-05-2007 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CIVMatt (Post 13474958)
I just watched sicko last night and I'm ready to move too

Not to move. I am looking at it from a traveling standpoint / staging ground. I want to spend a few months of the year outside of the US/Canada.

Brad 12-05-2007 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by xmas13 (Post 13474947)
http://www.montecarlo-realestate.com...naco/7-studio/

About 1.5-2M US dollars for a studio/one bedroom apartment in Monte Carlo, Monaco.

Pretty sure he wasn't looking into Monte Carlo.

My two cents is to look into Antibes. It is a great place with less traffic than Nice and or Monte Carlo, etc. But is still right on the ocean and all the other cities and towns on the southern coast are accessible by either highway if you decide to keep a car there or by a train that runs very often.

Having said that, obviously the places are much more expensive there now. As it is a popular vacation spot for both North Americans and Europeans alike. I think you would do well to look in Spain as well. The island of Majorca just off the coast is beautiful and not all that developed yet (I was there last summer).

And that's my two cents:thumbsup

xmas13 12-05-2007 02:15 PM

Marseille and Toulon are pretty cheap.

If your budget is important, Nice, Cannes.

If your budget is unlimited, Cap d'Antibes, St Tropez, Saint-Jean-Cap-Ferrat, Monaco.

xmas13 12-05-2007 02:17 PM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Cap_Ferrat.jpg

xmas13 12-05-2007 02:22 PM

Sardinia in Italy is also a good alternative.

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2005/...b__430x326.jpg

http://www.thomson.co.uk/asset/lpp/v00/291/100.jpg

Bossman 12-05-2007 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CIVMatt (Post 13474958)
I just watched sicko last night and I'm ready to move too

Donīt tell the others about the Scandinavia contries :winkwink:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=xJ0B2xDzSgg

Donfoolio 12-05-2007 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossman (Post 13475132)
Donīt tell the others about the Scandinavia contries :winkwink:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=xJ0B2xDzSgg

Wow, I knew country's like Norway, Sweden and Germany were a high standard of living already but stuff like that always amazes me as an American in the "land of the free". :Oh crap

DutchTeenCash 12-05-2007 03:18 PM

I dont but its one of the nicest places to go to, make sure you bring a shitload of cash also for the cost of living esp right on the Riviera food etc is overpriced

DAVD 12-05-2007 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 13474916)
webby is spot on with his analysis.

However something important to bear in mind.

What may be percieved as the best necessarily isn't.

For example, you may think that the south east is the best, keep an eye out for the south west, Same weather, same properties, same restuarants, same style, less money, less tourists and the same general feel.
South of Perpinon(spelling is bad for french names) sainte cypriene i went to a few years ago and it was the nicest holiday town i had been too.

If you disagree, and do look for the popular areas, then an apartment in the town of Frejus is worth a look.
St Tropez is also nice, but very expensive obviously, not just properties, cabs, resturants, bakeries all over charge.
Nice is a wonderful city and you would not go wrong there.

stay clear of sainte maxine, i went to the beach there once and never returned, they was all types of rubbish floating about.

However you are not the only one moving there for holidays, the village where we have rented a house for the past 17 years recently had a supermarket built in it, yes a super market in a village! When we first went there it didnt even have a shop

Anyway good luck and i know this area pretty well so if you want any more help just pop on icq

ughh! Nice is absolutely horrible, but some of the villages inbetween Nice and Monaco are simply marvellous. However, Russian oligarchs can apparently appreciate the area's beauty too, which is reflected in the prices.

Personally I'd prefer something on a mid-southern Italian coast.

Violetta 12-05-2007 04:06 PM

I own a huge wineyard in the mountains...





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