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$5 submissions 11-06-2007 06:28 PM

How to argue on Forums/boards: Faulty logic lesson # 1
 
http://changingminds.org/disciplines...s/a_appeal.htm

A common form of fallacy is, rather than to present an objective argument that stands on its own legs, makes some form of appeal, pleading with the listeners to accept a point without further questioning.

$5 submissions 11-06-2007 06:28 PM

Here's the list:

* Appeal to Authority: Referencing an 'expert'.
* Appeal to Belief: see Appeal to Common Belief.
* Appeal to Common Belief: If others believe it to be true, it must be true.
* Appeal to Common Practice: If others do it, it must be ok to do it too.
* Appeal to Consequences of a Belief: see Wishful thinking
* Appeal to Fear: Gaining compliance through threat.
* Appeal to Force: see Appeal to Fear
* Appeal to Emotion: If it feels good, it must be true.
* Appeal to Ignorance: see Argument from ignorance
* Appeal to Novelty: Newer is better.
* Appeal to Pity: Going for the sympathy vote.
* Appeal to Ridicule: Mocking the other person's claim.
* Appeal to Sympathy: see Appeal to Pity
* Appeal to Tradition: It has always been done this way, so this way is right.

yahoo-xxx-girls.com 11-06-2007 06:33 PM

$5 submissions,

Do you hire someone to write this crap?

Hmmmmm... appeal to common sense?


^^

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$5 submissions 11-06-2007 06:35 PM

^^

That's more of an ATTACK THE PERSON argument. lol

Here's more info on ATTACK THE PERSON (Ad hominem)

Attack the person in some way. For example:

* Attack their expertise, telling they are not expert
* Criticise their physical appearance or dress
* Comment on their inability to make a good argument
* Point out their junior status
* Attack their values as being contrary to social norms

Example

You are not qualified to make such a statement.

You would say that, wouldn't you.

And who do you think is going to believe you.

Of course you will defend your own department.
Discussion

Attacking the Person is a form of distraction, forcing them into defense and away from their argument. Most people, when personally attacked are form a fight-or-flight reaction, and will either jump to their own defense or will cognitively flee (and in doing so, will drop any argument they are making).

Attacking others in public frames you as an aggressive person who attacks those who oppose you. Other people there will be less likely to attack you or use strong arguments against you, thus strengthening your power position.

A sub-division: Abusive Ad Hominem is where the person is attacked and discredited. Circumstantial Ad Hominem occurs where an excuse is made for the person which negates their argument due to some special circumstances, such as the role they have.

Source: http://changingminds.org/disciplines...ack_person.htm

fatfoo 11-06-2007 08:35 PM

fuck you, and your crew... this post is ridiculous.

(Appeal to Ridicule)

yahoo-xxx-girls.com 11-06-2007 08:43 PM

"Appeal to Ignorance" ... ^^
 
Actually $5 submissions, that was not a personal attack; now if I had said you were a funny looking little GIT who could only create crap threads as to hide ones superiority complex, then perhaps it could be considered a personal attack.

But I really do not think so... ^^

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The Demon 11-06-2007 09:30 PM

thanks for the lessons in logical reasoning 101. It totally didn't sound like you were trying to be a pseudointellectual. I'd be surprised if even 1% of this forum understands what you were talking about.

GrouchyAdmin 11-06-2007 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balalsubturfyooj (Post 13341482)
Actually $5 submissions, that was not a personal attack; now if I had said you were a funny looking little GIT who could only create crap threads as to hide ones superiority complex, then perhaps it could be considered a personal attack.

But I really do not think so... ^^

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Ok, I gotta give Blah this one. I laughed.

$5 submissions 11-06-2007 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 13341629)
thanks for the lessons in logical reasoning 101. It totally didn't sound like you were trying to be a pseudointellectual. I'd be surprised if even 1% of this forum understands what you were talking about.

Thanks, I was just sharing the link. But it is quite applicable to many of the threads on forums in general.

It's all good :winkwink::thumbsup


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