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Vendot 11-02-2007 05:37 AM

They Didnt Want To Get Rid Of Saddam
 
http://iraqiscreen.blogspot.com/2006...re-coming.html

I always thought that they were looking forward to the day the americans would arrive in Iraq to get rid of Saddam. It seems that most people didnt want the invasion - the whole "they are waiting to be liberated thing" was one big colossal propaganda which was pushed around by TV networks interviewing the "odd iraqi bloke" who happened to have a brother who was murdered by Saddam.

As well as shots of "a group" of people hitting saddams statue with their shoes.

polish_aristocrat 11-02-2007 05:56 AM

I read whole entry, interesting

but also interesting that it took you 4 years after the war to realise that the truth isn't always what they tell you on TV....

CheneyRumsfeld 11-02-2007 05:59 AM

yeah, but I wanted to get rid of him.
good riddance.

JFK 11-02-2007 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 13320877)
I read whole entry, interesting

but also interesting that it took you 4 years after the war to realise that the truth isn't always what they tell you on TV....

it isnt ?:Oh crap

StuartD 11-02-2007 06:08 AM

I've been saying since day one.... even when forced to love a dictator... they still love him.
It's like the beaten child that still loves their parents because they know no other way.

They never ASKED to be liberated. Would they really still be fighting back so hard if they did?

kektex 11-02-2007 06:12 AM

Ah so this blog speaks for the entire nation of Iraq.
No one wants their country invaded. But also no one wants to live under the rule of a cruel dictator.
It´s a hard choice, really.

Kevsh 11-02-2007 06:17 AM

Another way to look at it:

What if another country, say China, decided George Bush was a threat to their security, etc., stormed the USA, ousted him and basically occupied the country.

Now there may be a lot of Bush-haters in America who thinks he's an idiot (among other things), but he's *your* idiot ... And chances are Americans would respond in much the same way, attack the occupiers and long for the days of Bushonomics.

p1mpdogg 11-02-2007 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevsh (Post 13320962)
Another way to look at it:

What if another country, say China, decided George Bush was a threat to their security, etc., stormed the USA, ousted him and basically occupied the country.

Now there may be a lot of Bush-haters in America who thinks he's an idiot (among other things), but he's *your* idiot ... And chances are Americans would respond in much the same way, attack the occupiers and long for the days of Bushonomics.

great point of view and dead on.

id take bush over some chinks running my strip center for me any day of the week.

i wouldnt mind if they killed DEA though

kektex 11-02-2007 06:31 AM

In the end a country must make its own future.

But every now and then you have situations like Cuba and Iraq where one person has complete power and is not afraid to use it against the population and you get a decades long dictatorship with no end in sight.

See the situation in Venezuela where Chavez still has a lot of support, through the manipulation of a large mass of ignorant people and control over every institution (electoral,justice,military).

L-Pink 11-02-2007 06:31 AM

Removing a government/dictator only works if you have someone waiting in the wings to assume power. Otherwise the void will become to valuable a prize not to be fought over. The idea you can vote into power a democratic government is foolish if the country has always been ruled by force.

Vendot 11-02-2007 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevsh (Post 13320962)
Another way to look at it:

Now there may be a lot of Bush-haters in America who thinks he's an idiot (among other things), but he's *your* idiot ... And chances are Americans would respond in much the same way, attack the occupiers and long for the days of Bushonomics.

Yes...... okay, your make a superb point there.

Anyhow, im not saying i thought the whole country wanted to be liberated - far from it and you will know that if youve read any of my previous posts on the matter.

Im just saying that I thought there *may* have been a slightly higher level of support than appears to be apparent from blogs like that.

DWB 11-02-2007 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevsh (Post 13320962)
Another way to look at it:

What if another country, say China, decided George Bush was a threat to their security, etc., stormed the USA, ousted him and basically occupied the country.

Now there may be a lot of Bush-haters in America who thinks he's an idiot (among other things), but he's *your* idiot ... And chances are Americans would respond in much the same way, attack the occupiers and long for the days of Bushonomics.

Spot on dude. :thumbsup

Then the Americans who fought back to take back control of their land would become "insurgents" and even be called "terrorists" if they were unable to fight the great army of China head on and had to resort to smaller more drastic attacks.

What's that old saying? "One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter."

DWB 11-02-2007 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 13321014)
The idea you can vote into power a democratic government is foolish if the country has always been ruled by force.

Some of the countries in the Middle East can only be ruled by force. Democracy simply will not work.

Michaelious 11-02-2007 03:09 PM

Yeah wot a real big surprise!

kane 11-02-2007 04:06 PM

In a way it is kind of like a version of the Stockholm Syndrome. It is no different then when a lot of people break up from a long term relationship and think about going back. Suddenly all you can think about is the good qualities of that person and not all the bad stuff. People are patriotic towards their country so when someone invades it and throws out your leaders, you suddenly start to think that your leader was good and these invaders have no place in telling you what you should be doing.

Here is a great blog about how the tide in Iraq changed. http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/ the writer is a woman that lived in Baghdad and wrote this blog right from the start of the US invasion. It is interesting how she starts off hoping for good things to happen and how she had a pretty good life before the invasion and wants something like that again. Then after all the corruption and screw up things start to change. Now she is telling how people that liked us at first hate us and how people just want us to leave. She and her family actually moved because even now, years after the invasion, they don't have power and water half the time and there is no real security so they moved to Syria.

Rochard 11-02-2007 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 13320877)
I read whole entry, interesting

but also interesting that it took you 4 years after the war to realise that the truth isn't always what they tell you on TV....

It blows me away that we work in an industry selling fantasy and fiction, and yet everyone on GFY is a fucking idiot who believes anything tossed at them.

Listen to me carefully.... Dog's son didn't sell him out to make a quick buck. IT'S FUCKING REALITY TV AND EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT HIM BOTH ONLINE ON IN THE NEWS.

Fucking dolts.

papill0n 11-02-2007 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 13324005)
It blows me away that we work in an industry selling fantasy and fiction, and yet everyone on GFY is a fucking idiot who believes anything tossed at them.

Listen to me carefully.... Dog's son didn't sell him out to make a quick buck. IT'S FUCKING REALITY TV AND EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT HIM BOTH ONLINE ON IN THE NEWS.

Fucking dolts.

errr wrong thread dude :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

pornask 11-02-2007 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RageCash-Ben (Post 13324215)
errr wrong thread dude :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

LOL, that was too funny :upsidedow

trafik2 11-02-2007 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RageCash-Ben (Post 13324215)
errr wrong thread dude :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Rochard 11-02-2007 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RageCash-Ben (Post 13324215)
errr wrong thread dude :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

No, I'm in the right thread. Saddam, Dog, global warming, etc etc etc. It's all bullshit.


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