They Didnt Want To Get Rid Of Saddam - GoFuckYourself.com

Vendot · 11-02-2007, 05:37 AM

http://iraqiscreen.blogspot.com/2006...re-coming.html

I always thought that they were looking forward to the day the americans would arrive in Iraq to get rid of Saddam. It seems that most people didnt want the invasion - the whole "they are waiting to be liberated thing" was one big colossal propaganda which was pushed around by TV networks interviewing the "odd iraqi bloke" who happened to have a brother who was murdered by Saddam.

As well as shots of "a group" of people hitting saddams statue with their shoes.

polish_aristocrat · 11-02-2007, 05:56 AM

I read whole entry, interesting

but also interesting that it took you 4 years after the war to realise that the truth isn't always what they tell you on TV....

CheneyRumsfeld · 11-02-2007, 05:59 AM

yeah, but I wanted to get rid of him.
good riddance.

JFK · 11-02-2007, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

I read whole entry, interesting

but also interesting that it took you 4 years after the war to realise that the truth isn't always what they tell you on TV....

it isnt ?

StuartD · 11-02-2007, 06:08 AM

I've been saying since day one.... even when forced to love a dictator... they still love him.
It's like the beaten child that still loves their parents because they know no other way.

They never ASKED to be liberated. Would they really still be fighting back so hard if they did?

kektex · 11-02-2007, 06:12 AM

Ah so this blog speaks for the entire nation of Iraq.
No one wants their country invaded. But also no one wants to live under the rule of a cruel dictator.
It´s a hard choice, really.

Kevsh · 11-02-2007, 06:17 AM

Another way to look at it:

What if another country, say China, decided George Bush was a threat to their security, etc., stormed the USA, ousted him and basically occupied the country.

Now there may be a lot of Bush-haters in America who thinks he's an idiot (among other things), but he's *your* idiot ... And chances are Americans would respond in much the same way, attack the occupiers and long for the days of Bushonomics.

p1mpdogg · 11-02-2007, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevsh

Another way to look at it:

What if another country, say China, decided George Bush was a threat to their security, etc., stormed the USA, ousted him and basically occupied the country.

Now there may be a lot of Bush-haters in America who thinks he's an idiot (among other things), but he's *your* idiot ... And chances are Americans would respond in much the same way, attack the occupiers and long for the days of Bushonomics.

great point of view and dead on.

id take bush over some chinks running my strip center for me any day of the week.

i wouldnt mind if they killed DEA though

kektex · 11-02-2007, 06:31 AM

In the end a country must make its own future.

But every now and then you have situations like Cuba and Iraq where one person has complete power and is not afraid to use it against the population and you get a decades long dictatorship with no end in sight.

See the situation in Venezuela where Chavez still has a lot of support, through the manipulation of a large mass of ignorant people and control over every institution (electoral,justice,military).

L-Pink · 11-02-2007, 06:31 AM

Removing a government/dictator only works if you have someone waiting in the wings to assume power. Otherwise the void will become to valuable a prize not to be fought over. The idea you can vote into power a democratic government is foolish if the country has always been ruled by force.

Vendot · 11-02-2007, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevsh

Another way to look at it:

Now there may be a lot of Bush-haters in America who thinks he's an idiot (among other things), but he's *your* idiot ... And chances are Americans would respond in much the same way, attack the occupiers and long for the days of Bushonomics.

Yes...... okay, your make a superb point there.

Anyhow, im not saying i thought the whole country wanted to be liberated - far from it and you will know that if youve read any of my previous posts on the matter.

Im just saying that I thought there *may* have been a slightly higher level of support than appears to be apparent from blogs like that.

DWB · 11-02-2007, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevsh

Another way to look at it:

What if another country, say China, decided George Bush was a threat to their security, etc., stormed the USA, ousted him and basically occupied the country.

Now there may be a lot of Bush-haters in America who thinks he's an idiot (among other things), but he's *your* idiot ... And chances are Americans would respond in much the same way, attack the occupiers and long for the days of Bushonomics.

Spot on dude.

Then the Americans who fought back to take back control of their land would become "insurgents" and even be called "terrorists" if they were unable to fight the great army of China head on and had to resort to smaller more drastic attacks.

What's that old saying? "One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter."

DWB · 11-02-2007, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

The idea you can vote into power a democratic government is foolish if the country has always been ruled by force.

Some of the countries in the Middle East can only be ruled by force. Democracy simply will not work.

Michaelious · 11-02-2007, 03:09 PM

Yeah wot a real big surprise!

kane · 11-02-2007, 04:06 PM

In a way it is kind of like a version of the Stockholm Syndrome. It is no different then when a lot of people break up from a long term relationship and think about going back. Suddenly all you can think about is the good qualities of that person and not all the bad stuff. People are patriotic towards their country so when someone invades it and throws out your leaders, you suddenly start to think that your leader was good and these invaders have no place in telling you what you should be doing.

Here is a great blog about how the tide in Iraq changed. http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/ the writer is a woman that lived in Baghdad and wrote this blog right from the start of the US invasion. It is interesting how she starts off hoping for good things to happen and how she had a pretty good life before the invasion and wants something like that again. Then after all the corruption and screw up things start to change. Now she is telling how people that liked us at first hate us and how people just want us to leave. She and her family actually moved because even now, years after the invasion, they don't have power and water half the time and there is no real security so they moved to Syria.

Rochard · 11-02-2007, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

I read whole entry, interesting

but also interesting that it took you 4 years after the war to realise that the truth isn't always what they tell you on TV....

It blows me away that we work in an industry selling fantasy and fiction, and yet everyone on GFY is a fucking idiot who believes anything tossed at them.

Listen to me carefully.... Dog's son didn't sell him out to make a quick buck. IT'S FUCKING REALITY TV AND EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT HIM BOTH ONLINE ON IN THE NEWS.

Fucking dolts.

papill0n · 11-02-2007, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

It blows me away that we work in an industry selling fantasy and fiction, and yet everyone on GFY is a fucking idiot who believes anything tossed at them.

Listen to me carefully.... Dog's son didn't sell him out to make a quick buck. IT'S FUCKING REALITY TV AND EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT HIM BOTH ONLINE ON IN THE NEWS.

Fucking dolts.

errr wrong thread dude

pornask · 11-02-2007, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RageCash-Ben

errr wrong thread dude

LOL, that was too funny

trafik2 · 11-02-2007, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RageCash-Ben

errr wrong thread dude

Rochard · 11-02-2007, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RageCash-Ben

errr wrong thread dude

No, I'm in the right thread. Saddam, Dog, global warming, etc etc etc. It's all bullshit.

11-02-2007, 05:37 AM	#1
Vendot Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Malaysia Posts: 3,376	They Didnt Want To Get Rid Of Saddam http://iraqiscreen.blogspot.com/2006...re-coming.html I always thought that they were looking forward to the day the americans would arrive in Iraq to get rid of Saddam. It seems that most people didnt want the invasion - the whole "they are waiting to be liberated thing" was one big colossal propaganda which was pushed around by TV networks interviewing the "odd iraqi bloke" who happened to have a brother who was murdered by Saddam. As well as shots of "a group" of people hitting saddams statue with their shoes. __________________ "In a Time of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth is a Revolutionary Act." - George Orwell

11-02-2007, 05:56 AM	#2
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	I read whole entry, interesting but also interesting that it took you 4 years after the war to realise that the truth isn't always what they tell you on TV.... __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

11-02-2007, 06:08 AM	#5
StuartD Sofa King Band Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Outside the box Posts: 29,903	I've been saying since day one.... even when forced to love a dictator... they still love him. It's like the beaten child that still loves their parents because they know no other way. They never ASKED to be liberated. Would they really still be fighting back so hard if they did? __________________ This is me on facebook This is me on twitter

11-02-2007, 03:09 PM	#14
Michaelious Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 6,720	Yeah wot a real big surprise! __________________

11-02-2007, 05:59 AM	#3
CheneyRumsfeld Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,341	yeah, but I wanted to get rid of him. good riddance.

11-02-2007, 06:12 AM	#6
kektex Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: elkektex at gmail Posts: 1,813	Ah so this blog speaks for the entire nation of Iraq. No one wants their country invaded. But also no one wants to live under the rule of a cruel dictator. It´s a hard choice, really.

11-02-2007, 06:17 AM	#7
Kevsh Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: TO Posts: 8,619	Another way to look at it: What if another country, say China, decided George Bush was a threat to their security, etc., stormed the USA, ousted him and basically occupied the country. Now there may be a lot of Bush-haters in America who thinks he's an idiot (among other things), but he's your idiot ... And chances are Americans would respond in much the same way, attack the occupiers and long for the days of Bushonomics.

11-02-2007, 06:31 AM	#9
kektex Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: elkektex at gmail Posts: 1,813	In the end a country must make its own future. But every now and then you have situations like Cuba and Iraq where one person has complete power and is not afraid to use it against the population and you get a decades long dictatorship with no end in sight. See the situation in Venezuela where Chavez still has a lot of support, through the manipulation of a large mass of ignorant people and control over every institution (electoral,justice,military).

11-02-2007, 06:31 AM	#10
L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,151	Removing a government/dictator only works if you have someone waiting in the wings to assume power. Otherwise the void will become to valuable a prize not to be fought over. The idea you can vote into power a democratic government is foolish if the country has always been ruled by force.

11-02-2007, 04:06 PM	#15
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	In a way it is kind of like a version of the Stockholm Syndrome. It is no different then when a lot of people break up from a long term relationship and think about going back. Suddenly all you can think about is the good qualities of that person and not all the bad stuff. People are patriotic towards their country so when someone invades it and throws out your leaders, you suddenly start to think that your leader was good and these invaders have no place in telling you what you should be doing. Here is a great blog about how the tide in Iraq changed. http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/ the writer is a woman that lived in Baghdad and wrote this blog right from the start of the US invasion. It is interesting how she starts off hoping for good things to happen and how she had a pretty good life before the invasion and wants something like that again. Then after all the corruption and screw up things start to change. Now she is telling how people that liked us at first hate us and how people just want us to leave. She and her family actually moved because even now, years after the invasion, they don't have power and water half the time and there is no real security so they moved to Syria.