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cranki 10-30-2007 06:05 AM

What NAS-system can you recommend?
 
Instead of buying yet another external USB-HDD, I figured it would be more convenient to get a NAS system like these:

http://search.ebay.com/search/search...d&c ategory0=

Can you recommend one?

cranki 10-30-2007 07:25 AM

bumpydibump

cranki 10-30-2007 09:27 AM

no one using a raid setup?

ro8in 10-30-2007 10:00 AM

Lacie's are pretty cheap and looking sweet :)

They do lag the quality a little, but still pretty good..

cranki 10-30-2007 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ro8in (Post 13307213)
Lacie's are pretty cheap and looking sweet :)

They do lag the quality a little, but still pretty good..

yeah I saw those... what aspects of quality do they lack? durability? speed?

PowerCum 10-30-2007 11:27 AM

The problem is that if you want some reliable NAS you need to spend at lesat $30k

These NAS "servers" you point in the ebay link are a SPF (Single Point of Failure) equipment.

This is something you could call a NAS:

http://shop.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP..._US-SunCatalog
http://shop.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP..._US-SunCatalog


Now that you know the price for a real NAS... you should know that in most cases there are failover solutions that are much cheaper and give you very similar grade of performance and in most cases custom build storage clusters setup allows very fast recovery on a full server or multiple HDs crash than a NAS with a couple of HDs crashed at the same time.
If you think a RAID 5 will save your ass, then you should see how easy is it to crash 4 HDs at the same time when things go wrong.

If you are interested in some custom solution, then make me know. My hosting company specializes in clsuters and redundant solutions.

DutchTeenCash 10-30-2007 11:35 AM

nas is way too much $

lacies are not bad but weve had 3 and they all had issues on the connectors after a while, id pick another brand, no fan so pretty warm casings as well

Az A Bay Bay 10-30-2007 11:36 AM

na its just way 2much "(

cranki 10-30-2007 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerCum (Post 13307613)
The problem is that if you want some reliable NAS you need to spend at lesat $30k

These NAS "servers" you point in the ebay link are a SPF (Single Point of Failure) equipment.

This is something you could call a NAS:

http://shop.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP..._US-SunCatalog
http://shop.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP..._US-SunCatalog


Now that you know the price for a real NAS... you should know that in most cases there are failover solutions that are much cheaper and give you very similar grade of performance and in most cases custom build storage clusters setup allows very fast recovery on a full server or multiple HDs crash than a NAS with a couple of HDs crashed at the same time.
If you think a RAID 5 will save your ass, then you should see how easy is it to crash 4 HDs at the same time when things go wrong.

If you are interested in some custom solution, then make me know. My hosting company specializes in clsuters and redundant solutions.

thx for the input, I appreciate that :thumbsup

But I guess what I'm looking for is something for the (small) office, basically a server in which I can pool my HDs and backup all my stuff. Something simple and affordable :)

Due 10-30-2007 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerCum (Post 13307613)
The problem is that if you want some reliable NAS you need to spend at lesat $30k

These NAS "servers" you point in the ebay link are a SPF (Single Point of Failure) equipment.

This is something you could call a NAS:

http://shop.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP..._US-SunCatalog
http://shop.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP..._US-SunCatalog


Now that you know the price for a real NAS... you should know that in most cases there are failover solutions that are much cheaper and give you very similar grade of performance and in most cases custom build storage clusters setup allows very fast recovery on a full server or multiple HDs crash than a NAS with a couple of HDs crashed at the same time.
If you think a RAID 5 will save your ass, then you should see how easy is it to crash 4 HDs at the same time when things go wrong.

If you are interested in some custom solution, then make me know. My hosting company specializes in clsuters and redundant solutions.

I'm sorry, but mayby you are confused.
What he provided was real NAS
Was you provided was real NAS
What he provided was SPF
What you provided was SPF.
On a side note, obviously since he is speaking of external usb drives, he is not looking for high end SPF NAS servers.
As a company specialised in clusters and redundant solutions, you should not overlook the fact that a CPU and a motherboard is also a single point of failure

dready 10-30-2007 12:20 PM

http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/85/93/

PowerCum 10-30-2007 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cranki (Post 13307737)
thx for the input, I appreciate that :thumbsup

But I guess what I'm looking for is something for the (small) office, basically a server in which I can pool my HDs and backup all my stuff. Something simple and affordable :)

Get the cheapest PC in the store, load it with HDs and then share them over the network. that's what probably will fit your needs better and you will have a spare PC in case of need.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Due
I'm sorry, but mayby you are confused.
What he provided was real NAS
Was you provided was real NAS
What he provided was SPF
What you provided was SPF.
On a side note, obviously since he is speaking of external usb drives, he is not looking for high end SPF NAS servers.
As a company specialised in clusters and redundant solutions, you should not overlook the fact that a CPU and a motherboard is also a single point of failure

Ok :)
You should be amazed what kind of stuff bring our clients when they come to us. I have seen more than one big company running their entire data on the kind of "NAS" he pointed in the ebay link.
Our storage solutions are not a NAS + 20 servers hanging from it... it's a bit more custom a allow 5 minute recovery after a complete rack crash :)

MaDalton 10-30-2007 12:39 PM

i don't care what you call them, i have 11 of those: http://www.buffalo-technology.de/pro...station-pro-ii

fast as USB 2.0 on a gigabit network, raid 5, and i pay about 700 euro for the 2 TB version at my wholesaler

and i love them


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