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baddog 05-30-2007 04:40 PM

I don't understand affiliate reps sometimes.
 
Got an email from one today. It is obvious that he does not understand the relationship we have with his company, but wouldn't it help if he used an email address that I could respond to, instead of [email protected]?

The Walrus 05-30-2007 04:42 PM

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thricer 05-30-2007 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Walrus (Post 12515623)

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

drowsy 05-30-2007 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by thricer (Post 12515627)
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

just a punk 05-30-2007 04:44 PM

LOL, that's a nonsense :)

BTW, use this email instead: mark-kovalsky [.at.] real-bucks.com - fucking-around-and-business-discussion/737908-affiliates-tell.html

OzMan 05-30-2007 04:45 PM

it doesn't make him any less of a caveman :2 cents:

BucksMania 05-30-2007 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 12515633)
LOL, that's a nonsense :)

BTW, use this email instead: mark-kovalsky [.at.] real-bucks.com - fucking-around-and-business-discussion/737908-affiliates-tell.html

wow :)
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baddog 05-30-2007 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 12515633)
LOL, that's a nonsense :)

BTW, use this email instead: mark-kovalsky [.at.] real-bucks.com - fucking-around-and-business-discussion/737908-affiliates-tell.html

Let me know when you offer $40 PPS

SleazyDream 05-30-2007 04:53 PM

soo many people come into this biz THINKING they know it.


soo sad

just a punk 05-30-2007 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12515677)
Let me know when you offer $40 PPS

Why so many people prefer PPS instead of partnership? If the site rebills well, partnership could bring more money than PPS (eve if it's $40). Personally I prefer to work with sponsors by partnership scheme. Actually I don't believe in fair $40 PPS at all... :2 cents:

baddog 05-30-2007 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 12515684)
soo many people come into this biz THINKING they know it.


soo sad

Oh, I am pretty sure when it was announced that he was added to the team of this large company everyone on GFY jumped in to say what a top notch guy he was.

g$$$ 05-30-2007 05:00 PM

he is top notch! :thumbsup

Nicky 05-30-2007 05:00 PM

I am top notch :)

baddog 05-30-2007 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 12515696)
Why so many people prefer PPS instead of partnership? If the site rebills well, partnership could bring more money than PPS (eve if it's $40). Personally I prefer to work with sponsors by partnership scheme. Actually I don't believe in fair $40 PPS at all... :2 cents:

Because it is the only thing that works with this particular business model.

If you rebill so well, you should be happy to get out for a mere $40.

High Plains Drifter 05-30-2007 05:02 PM

I've always wondered about those domain.com guys...

just a punk 05-30-2007 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12515716)
If you rebill so well, you should be happy to get out for a mere $40.

Absolutely correct, but... some sites rebill like crazy, but others - not really well (sad but true). That's why it's not a good solution to spread PPS on a whole affiliate program :2 cents:

So I don't believe all the sponsors that offer $40 have such a great rebilling ratios on ALL their sites. That's makes me think there is no fair $40 PPS, especially if these programs have no cross-sailing system inside their paysite member areas...

BTW, as about the partnership model. If you work on 70% revshare, so 1 signup + 1 rebill (which is not a big deal actually) will bring you 29.95*0.7*2 = $42 :2 cents: Course not all programs offer up to 70% partnership, but some do :)

Barefootsies 05-30-2007 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Walrus (Post 12515623)

HOWWWWWLING LAUGHTA


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :thumbsup

xxxice 05-30-2007 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Walrus (Post 12515623)

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Reak AGV 05-30-2007 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 12515762)
Absolutely correct, but... some sites rebill like crazy, but others - not really well (sad but true). That's why it's not a good solution to spread PPS on a whole affiliate program :2 cents:

So I don't believe all the sponsors that offer $40 have such a great rebilling ratios on ALL their sites. That's makes me think there is no fair $40 PPS, especially if these programs have no cross-sailing system inside their paysite member areas...

BTW, as about the partnership model. If you work on 70% revshare, so 1 signup + 1 rebill (which is not a big deal actually) will bring you 29.95*0.7*2 = $42 :2 cents: Course not all programs offer up to 70% partnership, but some do :)

So offer PPS to your affiliates and keep the $29.95*2 yourself while you just paid $40 to your affiliate. You're making no sence now.

baddog 05-30-2007 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Reak AGV (Post 12515841)
So offer PPS to your affiliates and keep the $29.95*2 yourself while you just paid $40 to your affiliate. You're making no sence now.

Kind of what I was suggesting

tony286 05-30-2007 05:29 PM

Thats got to be a tough job.

Profits of Doom 05-30-2007 05:53 PM

If they keep recycling the same people over and over this is the result. There is a reason these people flamed out at their previous 10 stops. I truly believe most of these companies would be better served brining in someone with a strong sales and customer service background and molding them from there, instead of the same idiots dragging their baggage and bad habits from place to place.

Chr0makey 05-30-2007 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Walrus (Post 12515623)

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :pimp

munki 05-30-2007 06:05 PM

I have my slip ups at times... but I usually at least get my own email correct...

tranza 05-30-2007 06:23 PM

It's amazing to see how many affiliate reps know nothing about this business...

seven 05-30-2007 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12515850)
Kind of what I was suggesting

$40 PPS is also a good invitation to cheaters that some proggies may want to avoid.. nevertheless one could offer both options.

Panky 05-30-2007 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 12515615)
Got an email from one today. It is obvious that he does not understand the relationship we have with his company, but wouldn't it help if he used an email address that I could respond to, instead of [email protected]?

I received an email today that had the same [email protected]. I noticed some other sponsors emails have this too. I hit reply and wrote the person back. He replied within an hour. There's usually an email address that follows the [email protected]. Something like [email protected], [email protected].

12clicks 05-30-2007 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by seven (Post 12516151)
$40 PPS is also a good invitation to cheaters that some proggies may want to avoid.. nevertheless one could offer both options.

if you can't handle cheaters, you shouldn't be running a program

baddog 05-30-2007 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by seven (Post 12516151)
$40 PPS is also a good invitation to cheaters that some proggies may want to avoid.. nevertheless one could offer both options.

Pretty sure the programs I work with know I am not cheating. :1orglaugh

nosey 05-30-2007 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Walrus (Post 12515623)

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Axeman 05-30-2007 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Reak AGV (Post 12515841)
So offer PPS to your affiliates and keep the $29.95*2 yourself while you just paid $40 to your affiliate. You're making no sence now.

PPS brings a ton more fraud as well. A large factor on why many people I know will only offer PPS to trusted affiliates after time.

Screaming 05-30-2007 07:34 PM

pps all the way for the win!

Rochard 05-30-2007 07:55 PM

The problem is some of these people aren't computer people, and don't understand the basics of how Al Gore's interweb works. As our industry grows it attracts "outsiders" - people who came into the industry only because they needed a job. We'll see more and more people who aren't qualified to work at - Gasp - Wendy's.

fris 05-30-2007 08:02 PM

revshare is so 90s

DWB 05-30-2007 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 12515696)
Why so many people prefer PPS instead of partnership? If the site rebills well, partnership could bring more money than PPS (eve if it's $40). Personally I prefer to work with sponsors by partnership scheme. Actually I don't believe in fair $40 PPS at all... :2 cents:

Short term thinkers. I make WAAAAY more on revshare than I ever did on ANY PPS program, BUT the site has to be a good one. If you spend the time to pick the right sites, you are nuts to want PPS.

Panky 05-30-2007 09:32 PM

I have some sites where I only use PPS and others where I only use Rev. Depends on a few different factors. However, I will never solely stick to only use PPS or only using Rev for every sponsor.

baddog 05-30-2007 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Panky (Post 12516827)
I have some sites where I only use PPS and others where I only use Rev. Depends on a few different factors. However, I will never solely stick to only use PPS or only using Rev for every sponsor.

Agreed. The reason I use PPS where I do is very obvious to the companies I do it with.

Sarah_Jayne 05-31-2007 03:33 AM

I would be happy if affiliates replied to my emails when I send them :)

dig0 05-31-2007 03:38 AM

Quiet often these kind of bugs in big companies are due to miscommunication between different departments, that's why I hate large companies

GatorB 05-31-2007 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 12515696)
Why so many people prefer PPS instead of partnership? If the site rebills well, partnership could bring more money than PPS (eve if it's $40). Personally I prefer to work with sponsors by partnership scheme. Actually I don't believe in fair $40 PPS at all... :2 cents:

Kind of simple really, PPS is guaranteed cash. A site MAY convert, it may not. I can't tell until AFTER I've send them sales. I suppose if your traffic source is FREE then it doesn't fucking matter. Those of us that pay a pretty penny on traffic can't afford a MAYBE converts. Maybe if sponsors would put a stat showing how many of my trials converted to monthlys then I'd have some data to go on.

In reality a sponsor would have to pay out 65% revershare and convert at least 70% trials to monthly then renew at least 70% of those every month for me to come out significantly better to switch. Show me a sponsor that can do that with PROOF and I'll sign up under you affiliate code.


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