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mahoney 03-28-2007 04:54 PM

Do chargebacks and refunds effect Affiliates?
 
Do chargebacks and refunds effect Affiliates? Do they take the loss too or does the program owner have to eat that money?

Sosa 03-28-2007 05:03 PM

It comes back out of my money as an affiliate... Wait till you get those chargebacks that are for 4 months etc... then you'll be mad. All a part of business though.

Sly 03-28-2007 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sosa (Post 12162039)
It comes back out of my money as an affiliate... Wait till you get those chargebacks that are for 4 months etc... then you'll be mad. All a part of business though.

Actually it depends on the program.

To my knowledge, I've never had money taken away from chargebacks on any PPS program I've sent traffic to. But having money taken away on rev-share programs is pretty common, get a small handful every month.

mahoney 03-28-2007 05:07 PM

Yeah, i am finding that out. This is for a mainstream business but I have found that they side with us 99% of the time as opposed to the customer.
Does the same apply for adult?

Linkster 03-28-2007 05:20 PM

In most cases the sponsors dont have any say in it - the adult processing companies/cc companies dont ask questions when it comes to chargebacks - they just auto-allow it
As far as the affiliate eating it - Ive yet to see a company that doesnt deduct it from your earnings in one way or another :)

Barefootsies 03-28-2007 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkster (Post 12162096)
In most cases the sponsors dont have any say in it - the adult processing companies/cc companies dont ask questions when it comes to chargebacks - they just auto-allow it
As far as the affiliate eating it - Ive yet to see a company that doesnt deduct it from your earnings in one way or another :)

That's because it costs more to fight it, then allow it. Plus you show up on the radar if you make a fuss.


:2 cents:

GigoloMason 03-28-2007 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Linkster (Post 12162096)
In most cases the sponsors dont have any say in it - the adult processing companies/cc companies dont ask questions when it comes to chargebacks - they just auto-allow it

Kinda depends on what billling tier you're processing at.

esnem 03-28-2007 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkster (Post 12162096)
In most cases the sponsors dont have any say in it - the adult processing companies/cc companies dont ask questions when it comes to chargebacks - they just auto-allow it
As far as the affiliate eating it - Ive yet to see a company that doesnt deduct it from your earnings in one way or another :)

we don't deduct...obviously cb's on accounts flag fraud quite quickly and we look into the validity of the account itself. if everything checks out, we incur the costs and do not deduct sales. one of the benefits of a PPS program for affiliates...also the reason why ACH payouts are lower, no deductions on returns which happen much more often than cb's.

DanielS 03-28-2007 06:11 PM

I think that happens on Revshare, not in PPS.

mahoney 03-28-2007 07:14 PM

That's because it costs more to fight it, then allow it. Plus you show up on the radar if you make a fuss.

What "radar" What is the downside of fighting it?

mahoney 03-29-2007 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanielS (Post 12162272)
I think that happens on Revshare, not in PPS.

Good To Know

The Ghost 03-29-2007 02:26 AM

Every program is different.


Ask them or look at their terms & conditions. :)

StarkReality 03-29-2007 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanielS (Post 12162272)
I think that happens on Revshare, not in PPS.

It affects PPS as well, but it's included in the overall calculation. You may not see any chargebacks/refunds in your stats, but in the end it doesn't make a difference is you get 35$ PPS (instead of let's say 40$ PPS in a perfect world without chargebacks) or if you get them deducted directly in revshare.

SomeCreep 03-29-2007 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mahoney (Post 12162005)
Do chargebacks and refunds effect Affiliates? Do they take the loss too or does the program owner have to eat that money?

Most definitely, chargebacks affect affiliates. I think all the revshare sponsors I promote deduct chargebacks from the affiliate's commission. There are also some PPS sponsors that will deduct the PPS commission for a chargeback.

venus 03-29-2007 03:16 AM

We dont pass it along.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkster (Post 12162096)
Ive yet to see a company that doesnt deduct it from your earnings in one way or another :)


V_RocKs 03-29-2007 03:33 AM

Some do, some don't.

mahoney 03-29-2007 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 12163999)
Most definitely, chargebacks affect affiliates. I think all the revshare sponsors I promote deduct chargebacks from the affiliate's commission. There are also some PPS sponsors that will deduct the PPS commission for a chargeback.

Interesting, it sounds like it's a case by case basis :warning

Stephen McTowelie 03-29-2007 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkster (Post 12162096)
In most cases the sponsors dont have any say in it - the adult processing companies/cc companies dont ask questions when it comes to chargebacks - they just auto-allow it
As far as the affiliate eating it - Ive yet to see a company that doesnt deduct it from your earnings in one way or another :)

:error
Well we dont pass charge backs to our affiliates so there you go :thumbsup
We only operate in the UK but any charge backs we get WE DO NOT PASS BACK to our affiliates they get paid as usual.

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