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mikesouth 01-16-2007 04:41 PM

What i learned at AEE That YOU should know
 
I have been on both sides of this biz, video and internet. I now make my living on the internet side. I have found the internet people by and large to be more honest. The ones I have dealt with all pay their bills on time, none has ever bounced a check to me or screwed me (I'm not an affiliate for anyone save a very select few). In the video biz, it seemed every mother fucker I dealt with was out to fuck me.

In attending AEE I saw the plain truth.

After talking to many people at AVN and other video companies, I came to the realization they need us to survive.

More than half the booths at the AEE show were dot coms. They took up ALL the slack that AVN lost when many companies pulled out due to declining sales and expensive booth space.

I looked at AVNOnline and spoke at length with Farley ( a helluva nice guy) and it dawned on me why AVNOnline exists. It isn't for AVN to make inroads into the adult web. It is for video companies to infiltrate the adult web, using us to do so. See without us those Video Companies are going to die eventually, so to survive they must consume us. You want proof? Look no further than the speakers for Internext. What the fuck exactly does Steve Hirsch know about adult internet, can he even load and install a browser? I doubt it, but here he is telling YOU what you should be doing to make money.

Now let's look at the track record of the video business. Massive flooding of product oversaturating the market and driving prices and margins down to razor thin profits. A system where the people who put themselves on the line to produce the product make the least money and a distribution system that fucks over everyone.

Are these the people you want to take advice from? We have made a pretty good market for ourselves here, and now the jackals are circling, they want us to believe we need them but I think we all know the truth now, we don't. Matter of fact I don't think we want to be anywhere near them. Sure a few of you may make some money promoting Vivid or whomever but in the long run, we will all lose from that.

Remember this while you are attending those seminars and talks and listening to the hype at Internext, look at their true motives.

My advice...Just Say No!

South

Elli 01-16-2007 04:50 PM

Interesting. A woman at one of the seminars said as much yesterday, saying the video (hard good) distribution model is dying.

mikesouth 01-16-2007 05:07 PM

for video companies DVD sales are down 30% and more

They have to consume us to live, don't roll over, let the basstards die.

TheDoc 01-16-2007 05:08 PM

The only problem with production companies is they think the content they have will get saturated. So they don't diversify enough or they don't understand enough about the business they run to diversify.

Plenty of production companies are still cleaning house, growing, and will continue to grow. Just like affiliate programs, plenty will go out of business and some will come into the business, then only a few will clean house.

And......
AVNOnline and AVN doesn't publish sites, mags, and produce shows to help get us together, that's a load of corporate crap. If they did it would be avn org not .com - It's very clear to 99% of the companies that have ever setup a booth that AVN is here to make money, period.

MandyBlake 01-16-2007 05:10 PM

very interesting read mike

mikesouth 01-16-2007 05:21 PM

they may be afraid to "diversify" but just wait till they suddenly dump 20 years of product online for 2.99/month

you have been warned.

TheDoc 01-16-2007 05:59 PM

That's the problem, "diversify" doesn't just mean online for $2.99 a month.

We create a group of scenes, they go to the paysites, to content plugins, to dvd, to distributors, to magazines, to vod, and individual rights to others sold off. By the time production companies catch up, Web2.0 will have taken over and they will be another 10 years behind.

Internet and Mainstream companies alike that bitch that hard times have hit already might as well sell now and get out while they can.

Big_D 01-16-2007 06:00 PM

ive heard that about the video side as well, from quite a few sources.

reynold 01-16-2007 07:57 PM

Thanks, mike. I learned something there.

AmyAmy 01-16-2007 08:17 PM

Interesting...


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