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honsiller 09-26-2006 12:34 PM

Important information regarding problems with 365 billing
 
365 billing did not make payroll Friday for some of their call center employees and the reason given was that they were having issues with their bank. A separate source confirmed that their acquiring bank had pulled their US merchant account.

I dug a little bit and would not have posted what I did if I did not discover what follows.

All logos except for the Visa/Mastercard logos are gone from their signup pages. If they are settling the transactions, they may be doing it from a non-US merchant account, which leaves their clients open to cross-border acquiring violations.

https://secure.365billing.com/cgi-bi...f2e45026538ce7


A look at a signup form shows a prechecked "Check here to certify that you are 18 years of age" statement, which now removes the legal protection for the ipsp as well as the website owner, of requiring the consumer to opt-in to the premise that they are over 18. A website owner or ipsp will have a tough time in court defending how they keep the content away from minors when they have a prechecked ?I am over 18? statement. The only reason I could think of why they would change this is that they need throughput, regardless of the consequences.

https://secure.365billing.com/cgi-bi...2de7ff8e10295f

spunkmaster 09-26-2006 12:37 PM

Ooohhh Shit ?

squishypimp 09-26-2006 12:40 PM

is this for real?

Barefootsies 09-26-2006 12:43 PM

whoa... now I am REALLY glad I went another direction.

Ouch!

Where's Ant'ony?!?!

CaptainHowdy 09-26-2006 12:44 PM

.........

KingK7 09-26-2006 12:47 PM

Damn that is some disturbing news...

Calvinguy 09-26-2006 12:50 PM

All I see is a visa and mastercard logo, no other card logos are present. No pre-check either...

Penrod 09-26-2006 12:53 PM

My join pages are still showing all logos and not asking to click a box stating they are 18

artman 09-26-2006 12:54 PM

wow not good
hope it all works out for them, we need more billers in this industry

honsiller 09-26-2006 12:57 PM

Customers calling their call center have to wait 30 minutes plus for the phone to get answered, if it is answered at all. This may be a result of CS not getting paid Friday.

If I were a 365 billing client, I would get some definite answers on what region the Visa transactions are getting settled out of, in order to not risk my Visa merchant status and my ability to process Visa transactions.

scottybuzz 09-26-2006 12:59 PM

hmmm sigspot :/ i guess.

layinglow 09-26-2006 12:59 PM

serves them right. only a shady billing company would allow clients to convert a 7.95 trial into a year long 95$ membership by DEFAULT.

Calvinguy 09-26-2006 01:00 PM

honsiller:
Join Date: 09-26-2006
PostsTotal Posts: 32 (32 posts per day)

Exactly what do you want and who are you?

Wizzo 09-26-2006 01:02 PM

You would think that if this was legit, someone would post under a real nic!

Who the fuck are you honsiller? 32 posts of which no substance until this one?? Something is fishy, also our 365 pages are fine! :pimp

KingK7 09-26-2006 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by layinglow
serves them right. only a shady billing company would allow clients to convert a 7.95 trial into a year long 95$ membership by DEFAULT.

Are you joking?
Shit....

Anthony 09-26-2006 01:02 PM

We must really be scaring people in this industry!

365billings President got a call yesterday evening from one of our clients having heard the exact same rumor directly from a BILLING REP of another IPSP (Processor).

If any one of our customers, partners or prospects have any LEGITIMATE concerns, please contact your rep or our customer service line.

Wizzo 09-26-2006 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by layinglow
serves them right. only a shady billing company would allow clients to convert a 7.95 trial into a year long 95$ membership by DEFAULT.

WOW... another worthless shit sack fake nic that has the facts WRONG.... Its not a $7.95 trial, its $7.95 a MONTH billed annually.

Nad 09-26-2006 01:05 PM

honsiller what rock did you crawl out of? you are pretty busy today since it hasn't even been 2 hours since you registered...

Anthony 09-26-2006 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by honsiller
Customers calling their call center have to wait 30 minutes plus for the phone to get answered, if it is answered at all. This may be a result of CS not getting paid Friday.

If I were a 365 billing client, I would get some definite answers on what region the Visa transactions are getting settled out of, in order to not risk my Visa merchant status and my ability to process Visa transactions.

Are you on crack? Where are you calling from? Pluto?

Feel free to get those answers on the visa region, we run a tight ship and you'll find we are 100% legit.

We love the free Advertising! Thanks!

Btw, the average hold time today is 49 seconds. :)

363R 09-26-2006 01:09 PM

Real classy post

tranza 09-26-2006 01:15 PM

Is this for real or not?

Anthony 09-26-2006 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza
Is this for real or not?

Let's see, 2 nicks that just signed up today, attacking us, what do you think?

Just check out all of honsiller's posts today and you can find what his motive is.

Having Haters is a sure sign you are coming up in the world! :)

Dollarmansteve 09-26-2006 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by layinglow
serves them right. only a shady billing company would allow clients to convert a 7.95 trial into a year long 95$ membership by DEFAULT.

Your powers of perception lead me to believe that you are a genius businessman.

Forest 09-26-2006 01:22 PM

365billing is top notch in my book

They have awesome support and a great team working hard for your processing

fake nicks need to get a clue

Forest 09-26-2006 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by layinglow
serves them right. only a shady billing company would allow clients to convert a 7.95 trial into a year long 95$ membership by DEFAULT.


HAHAHAHAHAHA

What a MORON!

:1orglaugh

DirtyJs 09-26-2006 01:39 PM

'365BILL.COM GOLTRANE, Spain *Goltrane S.L.' will appear on your cardholder statement.
*Special membership of 7.95 will be billed annually at the rate of 95.40
You must be 18 years of age or older to purchase access!

Theo 09-26-2006 01:40 PM

needs to be banned

Barefootsies 09-26-2006 01:44 PM

I was going to say.. I had just TALKED to Ant'ony.

Crazy shit in the business smearing other companies... Christ..

:Oh crap

MacDaddyPlaya 09-26-2006 02:03 PM

This is indeed a fact, no bullshit to this one. CCG, the company behind 365Billing as well as OPS Billing (not paying clients) did not make payroll last week.

I may not be E.F. Hutton but is this the place you want your company's financail future????

Just look at the people behind the organization for your answers. You won't have to dig too deep to draw your own conclusions on trustworthiness, loyalty and honesty.

XPays 09-26-2006 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacDaddyPlaya
This is indeed a fact, no bullshit to this one. CCG, the company behind 365Billing as well as OPS Billing (not paying clients) did not make payroll last week.

I may not be E.F. Hutton but is this the place you want your company's financail future????

Just look at the people behind the organization for your answers. You won't have to dig too deep to draw your own conclusions on trustworthiness, loyalty and honesty.

what info do you have connecting them to ops billing? please post or email legal @ xpays

honsiller 09-26-2006 02:10 PM

Legitimately exposing issues with a processing company would only make me enemies. And attacking the poster rather than the merits of the points is directly out of the spin playbook.

When I called the call center I was on hold for 30 minutes before I gave up

With how instable adult processing has been over the past 7 years, I felt the recent changes with the ?I am over 18? disclosure and not having discover and jcb credit card options on the signup forms I had checked were worth posting about, on top of them not being able to pay their call center staff. I was not the only one to bring this up

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeSmoke
someone did...but we were never notified.

you can sure tell from their client support that something's very different, though :mad:


MikeSmoke 09-26-2006 02:28 PM

Hey - leave me out of this one. :mad:
I don't know anything about these accusations one way or another, but taking a part of a post from another thread about something completely different is NOT fair game :321GFY

DutchTeenCash 09-26-2006 02:31 PM

so fuckin banned

Kimmykim 09-26-2006 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays
what info do you have connecting them to ops billing? please post or email legal @ xpays

He's a former IBill employee, perhaps a former 365 employee now as well?

RogerV 09-26-2006 03:28 PM

FYI Our 365 pages are fine and sales and payment havnt changed..

jcsike 09-26-2006 05:25 PM

Probably a bunch of bullshit, I have heard great things about 365 billing

RonC 09-26-2006 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerV
FYI Our 365 pages are fine and sales and payment havnt changed..


Roger

I just got back from Europe so I have not responded to this till now. I can tell you that our bankers confirmed that 365 Merchant aquiring bank in the US decided to exit the High Risk processing space this last week. I am not sure if they have found another relationship at this point or not but hopefully management will put out an offical statement since this is now common knowledge in the banking community.


Ron Cadwell
CEO
_____________
CCbill.com
Cavecreek.com
DRMNetworks.com

SomeCreep 09-26-2006 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza
Is this for real or not?

What is real? How do you define real? If you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, what you can taste and see, then real is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain.

PayMeNow 09-26-2006 08:51 PM

"
08-02-2006, 08:03 PM #8
BBWH121


Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1 | Points: 1 (Donate)


Hello,
We are in the same business and OPsbilling has not paid me in over 2 months and it is always the same damn story "well not now,Now they will not even return my calls or e-mails" but I was receiving e-mails stating oh you will get paid this week and then nothing-same shit all the time and now need a payment processor! Anybody know of a good one?"

Anthony, when we met on Internext OPSbilling name was right on your booth next to 365billing and Jettis- someone got a picture saved maybe? BTW, from CCG Technologies (your parent company I guess) website:
"With the demands of changing markets and traditional models, CCG takes an innovative approach, offering clients more options and enabling them to better manage their long-term business objectives. The four primary clients CCG manages are 365Billing, Jettis, OPS
and 3Cinteractive."
Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony
Sorry - 2nd part to this was cut off this morning.

---=

365 BILLING LAUNCHES 365 MOBILE SOLUTIONS
Customers of CCG Technologies, which also include Jettis and OPS Billing, can immediately take advantage of this mobile solution.

I need some clarification before I give you guys a try... Hope you can understand.

RonC 09-26-2006 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PayMeNow
"
08-02-2006, 08:03 PM #8
BBWH121


Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1 | Points: 1 (Donate)


Hello,
We are in the same business and OPsbilling has not paid me in over 2 months and it is always the same damn story "well not now,Now they will not even return my calls or e-mails" but I was receiving e-mails stating oh you will get paid this week and then nothing-same shit all the time and now need a payment processor! Anybody know of a good one?"

Anthony, when we met on Internext OPSbilling name was right on your booth next to 365billing and Jettis- someone got a picture saved maybe? BTW, from CCG Technologies (your parent company I guess) website:
"With the demands of changing markets and traditional models, CCG takes an innovative approach, offering clients more options and enabling them to better manage their long-term business objectives. The four primary clients CCG manages are 365Billing, Jettis, OPS
and 3Cinteractive."


I need some clarification before I give you guys a try... Hope you can understand.


I am not sure if this was directed to me or not? If so please let me know what clarification you need from CCbill?

Ron Cadwell

tony286 09-26-2006 09:19 PM

Hi Ron is there a email I can reach you at?

RonC 09-26-2006 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404
Hi Ron is there a email I can reach you at?

Tony404

[email protected] I am getting ready for bed since I just flew 18hrs from Europe this morning/night or what ever at this point LOL

Konda 09-27-2006 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays
what info do you have connecting them to ops billing? please post or email legal @ xpays

Connecting them? It's the same people who run both, thats a pretty clear connection?

sperbonzo 09-27-2006 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonC
Roger

I just got back from Europe so I have not responded to this till now. I can tell you that our bankers confirmed that 365 Merchant aquiring bank in the US decided to exit the High Risk processing space this last week. I am not sure if they have found another relationship at this point or not but hopefully management will put out an offical statement since this is now common knowledge in the banking community.


Ron Cadwell
CEO
_____________
CCbill.com
Cavecreek.com
DRMNetworks.com

Wow Ron, I didn't expect to see you in this thread.


.

karlm 09-27-2006 04:53 AM

Im confused as usual

Calvinguy 09-27-2006 04:55 AM

This thread took quite a turn after RonC posted here

Quick Buck 09-27-2006 06:56 AM

Interesting to see that 365 just posted an official statement that their acquiring bank has not exited and is not exiting high risk.

I have no interest in this thread since I don't use ccbill or 365, but if what Ron is saying is true then this is bad news for 365, if what he is saying is not true then he owes 365 an apology. JMHO.

Forest 09-27-2006 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacDaddyPlaya
This is indeed a fact, no bullshit to this one. CCG, the company behind 365Billing as well as OPS Billing (not paying clients) did not make payroll last week.

I may not be E.F. Hutton but is this the place you want your company's financail future????

Just look at the people behind the organization for your answers. You won't have to dig too deep to draw your own conclusions on trustworthiness, loyalty and honesty.

arent you a former employee of the company that started 365?

sour grapes?

Verotel 09-27-2006 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PayMeNow
"
...now need a payment processor! Anybody know of a good one?"

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o We are in Europe and European rules and regulations are different than in the US.
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scoreman 09-27-2006 07:10 AM

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