The 1969 moon landing was faked! Here's proof...
 

I have listened to the tin foil hat conspiracy theories for many years and I never believed em... until I looked at this and really thought about it.

Now, I dunno about you guys but I smell something fishy. Here we are in the 21st century and it's going to take us around 14 years to put a man on the friggin moon? That should be childs play for us at this point. 2 years, sure... 14 years!?!?! Hell no.

I thought our biggest issue was getting men to Mars, not the moon.

Am I crazy for thinking this?

yes you are crazy

No, I agree... all the arguments are neither here nor there... my biggest question has always been....

how did we have the technology to just blast off and get there in 69... but we haven't been able to do it again since??

It's always been a hard pill to swallow, all conspiracies aside.

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This NASA picture should show the astronaut in complete shadow because the sun is behind him, and yet the whole of the astronaut is caught in bright light?

Please our economy is bad enough.:(

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It has nothing to do with getting the men to the moon, but rather designing, developing and testing a new space craft..

Back in the sixties it was a race against the Russians and they almost beat us. The reason they didn't is because they didn't give a shit about safety and their cosmonauts paid for it with their lives.

On the other hand we were rushing too but not at the sake of safety. Same thing is what is happing with this new program. With the fact we have lost two Space Shuttles NASA isn't going to risk rushing something like this.

I'd be willing to bet that the guys behind Space Ship One will be well into their space tourism venture before we ever step foot on the moon again. Hell I'd almost be willing to be that it might be a private company that goes back first.

A private company has nothing to lose but money, however if NASA fucks up they are screwed for several years each and every time.

It cost so much money and is worthless when we get their we spend billions of dollars to go play in dirt! :thumbsup

yes, but that only begs the question more... if it was such a dire race... and the US didn't want to sacrifice safety... wouldn't faking it sound like a plausible solution?

I heard that film was recorded in the chilean desert :thumbsup

you think??

It's not like our country doesn't have it's fare share of fakeries and all. That would have made a lot of sense to do at the time.

I doubt it for the simple reason too many people had to be involved.

sure do.

Wouldn?t not caring about safely allow for the Russians to beat us to the moon, albeit with more dire results? Wouldn?t the US having such safety measures slow them down tremendously?

i read that and asked myself the same question.

uhmm.... there were several missions to the moon.

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Yes, 6 of them... all between 69 and 72. I didn't say there wasn't several. Just that the technology was there at the time to just come and go as they pleased, but nothing since... and now.... we take 14 years to figure out how to do it?

I seen so many theories I donno what to believe :Oh crap

The Russians did almost beat us to the moon, however their main rocket that was to be used blew up on every un-manned launch test..

This is how close they came to beating us..

These were all done by the Russians..

First probe to impact the moon, Luna 2 (1959)
First images of the moon's far side, Luna 3 (1959)
First probe launched to Mars (1960)
First probe launched to Venus (1961)
First probe to hit another planet (Venus), Venera 3 (1965)
First probe to transmit from the surface of the moon, Luna 9 (1966)
First probe in lunar orbit, Luna 10 (1966)

So are you going to say if it was impossiabe for the US to do it then the Russians must have faked all their successes as well?

alot of things in this country is fake, fake boobs, fake president, fake food might as well be fake moon

because its a waste of time and resources unless we find gold or some other commodity on the moon worth spending all the money to get there...69 it was political, not just a technical step forward...if we were racing al queda to the moon we'd be there in 5 months...

also don't forget, no current spacecraft/rocket is in production or working order to take humans to the moon. Think about the thrust it takes to leave earths atmosphere, let alone its gravitational pull. Those rockets don't fall out of peoples asses you know.

We can and could have continued our moon trips well into the 70's and 80's and on but our government decided it wasn't cost effective to continue. Nasa wanted to keep going there and had plans of establishing a permanent base there, congress said no because it cost too much.

Too many people were involved in the lunar landings for it to be faked, mass amounts of people cant keep secretes like that for this long. Maybe if it was a 1 time event,not to mentions they went on over a span of several years. These conspiracy theorist ignore the fact that we have moon dust and rocks that were brought back. These are minerals you can not find on Earth.

and the first dog in space :thumbsup

Where the fuck did I say that it was impossible for the US to do it?

Yeah, but 14 years? C'mon man. That's ridiculous.

The folks that won the X-Prize could do it for their first time in 3 years with an $8 billion warchest.

If it takes the gov 14 years to put this one together I'm calling bullshit on the 1969 efforts. We were listening to transistor radios back then. There were no computers, no composite materials, hell, all we had back then was aluminum and rocket fuel.

I'm calling bullshit.

Ahhh but there were, and they used em'

If they really went...

i truely believe that they did land on the moon but they were the craziest bunch of people ever. i mean back then the ocean hadn't even really been explored let alone the moon....how would you feel as an astronaut back then?

Bwahahaha, nice find Scooter. Their "computer" was literally less powerful than this:

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So either our current rocket scientists are complete blathering idiots or the post war American "can do" spirit is way more powerful than I thought. After all, they went to the moon and back with a computer that is less powerful than a casio calculator. That's what we are supposed to believe right?

Can you imagine how many people wouldve been involved if this was a hoax. That alone already makes it impossible because after 50 years it wouldve come out long time ago already with evidence and that isnt the case.

By that logic you would have to believe the moon landing was real, but you'd also have to believe the Roswell and Area 51 stories too.

Huh? No?

No idea how any rational person can still doubt the moon landings.

Every single conspiracy theory behind it has a logical real reason of explanation.

As for 14 years. Lets remember something called red tape, bureaucracy, safety laws and plans, contractors, and the general inadequacies of the US Government to do anything in a timely manor. Fuck it is going to take them 3 years just to redo a small portion of an interstate near here and if it was like any others they did it will go over budget, need to be redone or fixed and take 2-3 times as long than they projected. Back then we strapped peoples asses to a tube of rocket fuel, and well if it blew up they just took one for the team, no lawyers, no scandal, no blame.

well, let's see... if it was a hoax.. then there'd be a couple of people to make the set, a lighting guy... the astronauts themselves and the people who made the decision.

I know, a slight exaggeration but really... how many people does it take to pull off a 2 person short film?

Keeping mind that even most the CIA pulls off missions while on a "need to know" basis only.

I was reading something last week about fusion and Helium-3...apparently there's a shitload on the moon.

Very true. Much bigger coverups than this have happened over the years.

People still believe JFK was shot from the grassy knoll by a crazy guy with no real motives. Go figure.

yeah... they are sending missions to space all the time... but "need 14 yrs to figure out how to do it" - you dont really care to know what they are doing, why, what the budgets are, what the constraints, whats being developed (i.e. reusable vehicles) are and why the timeline is what it is... you had your mind made up BEFORE you even read the article.

you make perfect sense.






NOT.

I agree 14 years is a long time.

but the X-prize (whatever it was called), the saturn V-rocket, LEM, command module, service module, etc.., were all components that were designed, and served, only one purpose on missions, one time only. I wouldn't call bullshit on the moon landing just because it'll take longer than it did in the past to design, produce, and launch a multipurpose capsule in space (that will be capable of going to mars with humans on board) that can be reused, has some serious legs, and is also five times the size of any spacecraft that has traveled that distance.

Also, you said "no composite materials" in your quote. They take longer to produce so that doesnt fit into your argument.

you are really out of your mind. now you are down to a couple guys, that tricked the world AND the russians with the best hoax ever. i guess no one at NASA was involved... you know... the 1000's of employees, the scientists nation wide working on the project, their families, their friends etc.

must have been three pretty smart guys making that "2 person short film"

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there is no moon, Chuck Noris destroyed it

as u were

Remember: It's in a contractors best interests to prolong development. It makes them more money. :)

Hell Canada will be on the moon launched with a piece of swiss cheese before the US goes again.

NASA became a typical big government bureaucracy. They cannot do anything right or efficient.

Look at what Burt Rutan has been able to do with a lot less resources and time.

interesting point you got there.. makes me think.. Time to dig up some wikipedia articles :)

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dont fuck with chuck for sure

If GFY was developing a space shuttle

2010:
Lockheed: "No we're not done yet."
NASA: "Why not?"
Lockheed: "We can't figure out how to get the.... uh.... imancipator module to .... erm... interface with the .... uhhhh... air cooling SAFETY unit."
NASA: "Oh. Well continue then. Safety is our biggest concern."

2015:
NASA: "Hey, just checking in. Haven't talked to you guys in awhile."
Lockheed: "Oh... HI. Yeah. We're.... we're good. I guess. Got a bit of the flu."
NASA: "Oh how is that space module thing going? Remember you had a deadline of 2008... :x"
Lockheed: "Yeah. Oh... right. Well we're still having SAFETY concerns with the lead intake buster on the port valve. It's a doozie. We will get back to you on progress for sure."

--- In the mean time, private industry has colonized the moon, and are sending vacationers out as far as Venus --

2020:
Nasa: "Okay guys we are getting some minor pressure from the Government. Nothing major but we need a prototype or something."
Lockheed: "Yeah we have one. Hang on."
Nasa: "..."
Lockheed: "It's... hm where did it go... *clunking in background*"
Nasa: "Hm find it?"
Lockheed: "Yeah...oh nevermind that's my daughters laptop."
Nasa: "Oh. Well can you send it over when you get it? We really need it now."
Lockheed: ".... brb gotta take my wife to the mall she lost her license."

2025:
NASA is disbanded due to government stoppage of funding. The official announcement? Government should not control space exploration and research.

I don't understand why we can't use the same technology back then to go to the moon again? We should be able to re build what we previously had and then try again. I know it's old technology that's not my point. That's why I have doubts about the moon landing. Why is that?

Ok if it was faked the USSR would have known and they certainly would have shown the world the proof that it was faked.

Back in the 60's ther wasn't any budget contraints. We HAD to get to the moon before 1970 to keep JFKs dream alive.

Also this new ship is reuseable so it's a completely different technology so it has to be tested. This thing also holds 6 as compared to 3 for Apollo. And the first launch is in 8 years not 14. You think the first time we are going to try this thing is when we send them to the moon?

As far as Mars. If this technology works then it can be used as a basis for a Mars misssion.

Sure if we just wanted to put 3 guys in a tin can on top of a old Saturn V rocket and send them to the moon we could do that right now. I think we are looking for something more advanced.

Don't think of it too much or will get some nerveouse desease.

You guys aren't too bright. It will take them ten years to come up with a plan first.

i started a poll some months ago about this topic here, as i remember the "it was a fake" won