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RichGuy 08-31-2006 08:49 AM

Is a million $ a lot dough (aside from not having it)
 
(aside from not having it):pimp

Jakke PNG 08-31-2006 08:51 AM

Million lasts a long long time if you have it in liquid funds and aren't planning to buy ferraris or live jetset life.

spazlabz 08-31-2006 08:52 AM

I agree, thats a bundle of cash


spaz

squishypimp 08-31-2006 08:55 AM

thats alotta cash

mrthumbs 08-31-2006 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather
Million lasts a long long time if you have it in liquid funds and aren't planning to buy ferraris or live jetset life.

10-15 year max

fallenmuffin 08-31-2006 09:07 AM

It all depends on your living style. You can buy a house anywhere from 50,000$ to 8,000,000$. So if you bought a 130,000$ home, 36,000$ car, and lived "normally" with investments and savings you could make that million last forever. With aggressive growth mutual funds you could score 15% a year, with a 12 month CD you do 7%. That's 70,000$ just for saving your money or 150,000$ just for taking a small risk.

Most people work 40 years at 50,000 a year thats 2,000,000 (2 million) max their lifetime. So yeah a million dollars is alot. I could live the rest of my life on a million dollars but it wouldn't include private jets and hookers, lol.

SteveLightspeed 08-31-2006 09:09 AM

95% of American families earn $100k or less per year, before taxes. So if you look at $1m as every penny you will earn for the next 10 years, then yes, it is a lot of money.

But is it enough to retire on before age 50? Probably not.

UniversalPass Pete 08-31-2006 09:10 AM

1mill is nothing today!:2 cents: Don't get me wrong if someone gave it to me I would not turn it down! but $1million buys you what $400K would have bought you 7-8 years ago! and what 100K would have bought you 20-25 years ago etc.

fallenmuffin 08-31-2006 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed
95% of American families earn $100k or less per year, before taxes. So if you look at $1m as every penny you will earn for the next 10 years, then yes, it is a lot of money.

But is it enough to retire on before age 50? Probably not.

Real median household income remained unchanged between 2003 and 2004 at $44,389, according to a report released today by the U.S. Census Bureau. Meanwhile, the nation?s official poverty rate rose from 12.5 percent in 2003 to 12.7 percent in 2004. The percentage of the nation?s population without health insurance coverage remained stable, at 15.7 percent in 2004. The number of people with health insurance increased by 2.0 million to 245.3 million between 2003 and 2004, and the number without such coverage rose by 800,000 to 45.8 million.

woj 08-31-2006 09:23 AM

you should be able to live quite comfortably with a million for the rest of your life...

Bossman 08-31-2006 10:24 AM

a million ? would be even better :)

Atticus 08-31-2006 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj
you should be able to live quite comfortably with a million for the rest of your life...

Depends on your version of comfortable.

StuartD 08-31-2006 10:40 AM

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/080...lance&n=283155

The first sentence reads: "Griffin was broke, he was down to his last six million dollars"

Doctor Dre 08-31-2006 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed
95% of American families earn $100k or less per year, before taxes. So if you look at $1m as every penny you will earn for the next 10 years, then yes, it is a lot of money.

But is it enough to retire on before age 50? Probably not.

It's definitly enough to live iwthout worrying about money. I wouldn't retire for sure thought ;)

wedouglas 08-31-2006 10:58 AM

1 mil liquid, with a normal annual income? yes, definatly.

You couldn't be buying 200K cars etc, but you could live hapily and easily the rest of your life.

Jakke PNG 08-31-2006 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrthumbs
10-15 year max

What drugs are you on?
1 000 000 in the bank.
Without investing in anything..
intrest rate, probably around 2% for that sum.
1666/month intrest only.. If you live a 'normal' life, the money SHOULD last a lifetime. I probably don't even spend 1600/month on personal stuff...

but then again, I don't think anyone can have any kind of self-restraint if they suddenly get 1M in the bank. :)

Jakke PNG 08-31-2006 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atticus
Depends on your version of comfortable.

Pay the bills in time, and not to worry if you have dinner tomorrow or money to fill up the tank in your car.

It wouldn't get you 1st class airtrips 4 times a year for 4 week vacation in 5 star resorts. It won't get you 4 cars and a mansion.

Bossman 08-31-2006 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather
1666/month intrest only.. If you live a 'normal' life, the money SHOULD last a lifetime. I probably don't even spend 1600/month on personal stuff...

And if you took that money to another country, then it could buy you a even better lifestyle :)

samsam 08-31-2006 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrthumbs
10-15 year max

says who? if youre not living a jet set life, then interest at 5% would yield you approx $50k per year.

that would keep most people going comfortably for long

samsam 08-31-2006 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrthumbs
10-15 year max

says who? if youre not living a jet set life, then interest at 5% would yield you approx $50k per year.

that would keep most people going comfortably for long

gdog 08-31-2006 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samsam
says who? if youre not living a jet set life, then interest at 5% would yield you approx $50k per year.

that would keep most people going comfortably for long


yup, add compound interest to that and in 20 years its a nice chunk of change

rowan 08-31-2006 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather
What drugs are you on?
1 000 000 in the bank.
Without investing in anything..
intrest rate, probably around 2% for that sum.
1666/month intrest only.. If you live a 'normal' life, the money SHOULD last a lifetime. I probably don't even spend 1600/month on personal stuff...

but then again, I don't think anyone can have any kind of self-restraint if they suddenly get 1M in the bank. :)

You're forgetting tax, and more importantly, inflation... a 2% interest rate will probably not be enough to keep the value of your capital consistent over time.

Less of a concern if you don't plan to die with the equivalent of $1m in the bank though... :)

Jakke PNG 08-31-2006 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan
You're forgetting tax, and more importantly, inflation... a 2% interest rate will probably not be enough to keep the value of your capital consistent over time.

Less of a concern if you don't plan to die with the equivalent of $1m in the bank though... :)

Well, in finland the capital gains tax is a solid 27,5%..
So it's a net profit of 1200 / month...so if you on top of that do something, like submit a gallery once a month. you should be able to live just fine.

mrthumbs 08-31-2006 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan
You're forgetting tax, and more importantly, inflation... a 2% interest rate will probably not be enough to keep the value of your capital consistent over time.

Less of a concern if you don't plan to die with the equivalent of $1m in the bank though... :)


Yes.. and more important were talking Dollars here..

1 mil with lets do something outrageous: 3% interest is $ 30k a year
= 25k Euro something a year? Thats not decent living in Europe and it will
be below poverty 10 years from now..

blazi 08-31-2006 12:05 PM

a million dollars is nothing anymore these days, and will not take you far at all, with today's prices you are not actually sitting comfortable unless you are a billionaire at least imo...

mrthumbs 08-31-2006 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gdog
yup, add compound interest to that and in 20 years its a nice chunk of change

Not much to compound when you have to live of interest..

mrthumbs 08-31-2006 12:07 PM

Oh.. and you DO pay tax over interest eh.. dont forget that.

mrthumbs 08-31-2006 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blazi
a million dollars is nothing anymore these days, and will not take you far at all, with today's prices you are not actually sitting comfortable unless you are a billionaire at least imo...

wellwellwell :1orglaugh

No, to live SECURE and decent (no ferraris and expensive haibts) for at least 40-50 more years you need 2-3 mil. Put it in an excel sheet with the inflation figures, taxes etce tc and youll see you cannot go beyond 20 years with less withour touching poverty: exception: move to a 3rd world country...like thailand or something ;)

polish_aristocrat 08-31-2006 12:13 PM

I LOVE threads like this :)

seriously :glugglug

rowan 08-31-2006 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrthumbs
Yes.. and more important were talking Dollars here..

1 mil with lets do something outrageous: 3% interest is $ 30k a year
= 25k Euro something a year? Thats not decent living in Europe and it will
be below poverty 10 years from now..

You're also ignoring inflation...

If inflation is 3% p/a then you need an effective interest income rate of 3% AFTER tax just to keep the value of your capital. You'd need to be earning 6% AFTER tax in order to cover inflation and draw a $30k p/a wage.

rowan 08-31-2006 12:19 PM

BTW... would most humans with $1m in the bank - either achieved through being spoon fed, or genuine hard work - be happy with a $USD30k annual wage?

Jakke PNG 08-31-2006 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan
BTW... would most humans with $1m in the bank - either achieved through being spoon fed, or genuine hard work - be happy with a $USD30k annual wage?

Most, no.

slapass 08-31-2006 12:23 PM

3 million is the minimum you would need. 5% is a very doable rate in the US right now. 33% tax is where you would be in most states. So a hundred k a year after tax. That is pretty comfortable for most people. Do anything that is prductive versus destructive to the cash flow and life would be really good.

rowan 08-31-2006 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass
3 million is the minimum you would need. 5% is a very doable rate in the US right now. 33% tax is where you would be in most states. So a hundred k a year after tax. That is pretty comfortable for most people. Do anything that is prductive versus destructive to the cash flow and life would be really good.

inflation...inflation...inflation!

To keep the cash value of $3m in today's money you'll need $5m+ in 20 years. That's just preserving the value, $5m in 2026 will be roughly the same as $3m now.

dennisthemenace 08-31-2006 12:44 PM

If saved or invested properly, yes.

If spent, it's no different than any other amount - gone money is no money.

polish_aristocrat 09-03-2006 10:04 AM

bump for more discussion.......

Quotealex 09-03-2006 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrthumbs
10-15 year max

If you're frugal and know a little about investment, you could live off of it for 50 years and more.

free4porn 09-03-2006 10:34 AM

A million pounds please :)

MikeVega 09-03-2006 10:40 AM

it's nice money ... but not life changing ..

MikeVega 09-03-2006 10:41 AM

it's nice money ... but not life changing ..

SAM SIYC 09-03-2006 11:15 AM

1 million is good spending money.....but definitely not enough for early retirement. The only thing you should do with a million imo is to invest it right away to try to make 5 million out of it! :2 cents:

Monstaman 09-03-2006 11:18 AM

I would be able to retire in my country ...

bknoob 09-03-2006 11:19 AM

I will let you know once I have it

Monstaman 09-03-2006 11:26 AM

I would be able to retire in my country ...

Antonio 09-03-2006 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrthumbs
10-15 year max

oh yeah? Give me a million bucks and I wont be able to spend them in the next 200 years or so, the first thing I'm going to do is move to Mozambique - one of the poorest country in the World with all the third World shit, but boy, do they also have the BEST beaches in the World + the hottest Mulato girsl ever

I'm going to move there, live simple life, and just exist, sick and tired of the rat race - fuck, I want a better car, now I want bigger house, ok, I have a bigger house, but now I want to libe in a better subburb .... and you wake up in your late 70s, and you realise that you had NO life, or at least you didn't spend nearly enough time on what really matters

FreeOnes 09-03-2006 11:55 AM

I would need at least 10 times more to retire and feel comfortable

madawgz 09-03-2006 12:01 PM

id say that is alot of money

and would last me about 5 years or so :)

BlueDesignStudios 09-03-2006 01:13 PM

It's a fair bit of money, but it really comes down to the cost of living wherever you are, and also the kind of lifestyle you plan to live

scottybuzz 09-03-2006 01:20 PM

not much for me ;)

rodney25 09-03-2006 07:35 PM

Enough for me to start a new business I guess. :)


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