So ccbill is coming with improvements, while paycom stand still?
 

CCBILL has much better/detailed stats. Especially for affiliates...

CCBILL made many improvements since last year...And now the Debit card addition etc...While paycom hasn't been improved since? well since when?

Also paycom EU sucks for smaller paysite owners..Since paycom can not send checks to affiliates, when the program owner is using paycomeu...


Agree or?

Bump for a good thread

Oh Andre, stop being a trouble maker :winkwink:

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They are out racing.

I'd rather ccbill didn't make "improvements" to their affiliate stats, some of their more recent ones are quite bizarre. :winkwink:

I agree, their improvements are a bitt nutty.

you'd think a company that size could take a page from any other sponsor program out there and make easy to read, and usefull stats, let alone a decent easy to use interface.

I got a sneak peek at all the new Paycom stuff.

Going to kick major ass, epsecially after they announce who they teamed up with for stats.

:thumbsup

I heard Paycom just struck a deal with MPA which involves a complete overhaul of their stats backend.

great I wonder if it will come with the shav-O-matic option

hehe, can't wait till the MPA3 guys see that, maybe we can get another good NATS vs. MPA3 thread...

Interesting

isn't paycom/epoch merging their backend affiliate system with MPA?

that alone would beat ccbill to the ground in a heartbeat....ccbill has the ultimate worst backend for affiliates in the world...if you ever want to know what NOT to do with a program backend, just log into the ccbill affiliate system

hell, I send ccbill site owners traffic consistantly and only like half the hits even register in their backend

Smelling dead meat...

Maybe Paycom just understands that it's not the small revshare programs where the big bucks are made.

I wish it would be live already. I was told 6+ months ago that it won't take long anymore. :)

I agree with you on most points - but at least you can see which of the members you sent are active - unlike in Nats

I'm not speaking about my own program...But many good smaller niche sites do use ccbill....Also the check cutting is a big deal if you ask me...

And ftvcash, met-art etc are also using ccbill only...I remember a thread where Shap mentioned the same thing btw(paycom not improving)...Searching for the thread now...

But it looks like Paycom DOES improve...Looking forward to see their new stats backend

20 of such small programs at $50k monthly is $1000k. And I'm sure there are a lot more.

it would be really great to got some better stats reports:-)

SO true!!! It's really a shame NATS doesn't offer this :(

paycom go :)

Yes they do, this will be a huge improvement imo

Yea, but who knows how much is enough to be worthwhile for guys like Paycom? Think about it from their perspective. They would have to put half a dozen programmers to work, review features, run neverending workshops, 50+ sweet-looking powerpoint charts to convince management, endless testing, bug reports. Then marketing, customer + webmaster feedback. The whole shebang.

What do they get? Another 50 programs doing 50k monthly? Could well be such headache is not even worth an additional 2.5m in monthly revenues to them.

Just a train of thoughts, pure speculation.

the only thing i wish for is a better backend at ccbill and if paycom offers that then we all know that ccbill will lose some clients. I think that the backend is very important and most billing companies out there except jettis, don't have a very good affiliate system. or i must have missed them.

Yeah, I know what you mean. And its also harder to find a motivation when things are running fine without much extra effort. But I was told paycom is working on improving their stats for some time now, so maybe they expect more small or middle sized clients. :)

Then it will depend only on $$$. Who will make me/us more. But I don't think there are big differences between those two.

Hopefully CCBill's improvements will be great