Designers: There's a reason why some of us are paid the big bucks, and the rest of U
 

well.... let's face it, you're scratching out a few bucks for a twelve pack, or MAYBE (and that's a big fucking maybe) actually earning a mediocre living in some shit hole apartment while you drive a beat up avacado green Gremlin.

Well hey hun, haven't seen you around in a bit.

:)

Interesting.....

not really.


This has been a reality for a long long time. Some people just refuse to live in it.

haha, that's what I call being brutally honest.

The fact that talented and skilled people tend to have more success isn't exactly limited to designing porn sites.

Hmm an Avacodo green gremlin may be worth something now. The last year they were built was in 78. That would make one at least 28 years old.


http://www.nashnut.com/archives/1972gremlinbbg.jpg

true....

but "porn designers" seem to have an inate ability to not grasp the concept. I find it pathetic, yet humorous at the same time.

Adult design is way underpriced compared to mainstream. And not enough clientele for most to survive and make big money. That and most programs that would drop a lot on of $$$ design just hire their own designers. Even most of the big design companies outsource all their designers.

Semi-true.

Mainstream is lacking in intelligence in a lot of areas.
Programs hiring their own is true to some extent, but no one puts their eggs in one basket. There's always room to squeeze in if you got your shit together.

Most don't.

Yeah, and then there are the people that would rather outsource design to some 3rd world country because they will do it dirt cheap. There is a reason that professionals charge more...

thanks for the love Amp

this car is amazingly ugly :2 cents:

and they deserve the results they get.

Absolutely right :thumbsup :thumbsup

So true. Hahahah! But that's all across the board and not just limited to designers.

The problem I find with a lot of adult graphic designers is they create the same damn shit over and over. They utilize all the same concepts like a bunch of mindless clones. All the sites look the same to me these days.

Its graphic incest.

thats very true. there's like over 100 bangus style site designs with the video clips and few pics on the main page for each model. the design maybe design but the style and layout has been done one two many times.

Amp... you're a crazy mutha.

:) Luckily, we make a living and survive quite nicely :D We have 18 packs! :D

very very true

You just hit the nail directly on the head, SK :thumbsup

Quote of the fucking day....

95% of web design/development companies are either scammers, horrible, or nothing special. 4% are above average. 1% are truly special and are defining their own style

:2 cents:

amp, how much you pulling in big boy?

True True.

Samething when it comes to video editing and the such. Guess in what percentile I rank :glugglug

more than 99% of the so called "designers" you'll find here.

Didn't you retire?
: )

I did.
It's been a great year off.
I am working again. But not publically.

You're one entertaining dude. Respect.

well thank you.
I post only to entertain myself, but if I can entertain others, then bonus. :upsidedow

Amps a legend in his own mind

I let my lifestyle do the talking for me.
My mansion here on Maui is success enough for me.

I dare you to find a designer that can claim anything close.

and just much of that was paid for with your design money?

how many sq feet is your house man?

jw.

congrads you are doing well.

All of it.
As well as my monster truck, BMW, & jetski.

Is Ampiezza back? Is this real?

you telling me your girl didnt have anything to do with it? negro please

A lot of designers don't know what they are doing thought... if you want real designs you gotta pay the price.

Hey Amp how ya been bro?

You're back. Nice to see you. (posting)

Hey, you should change your nick to "Count Ampula"

you know, the whole recluse thing, living in a mansion, the lone rockstar image.

Come on do it. Change is inevitable. :D

Amp... no offence, but I don't see any way you can seriously prove that you have all that stuff from design ... Not saying it's not possible ... hell, at one point back in 2003, I was seemingly moving towards that myself before a major business fall. But the fact is, this is a forum. I could say Bill Gates is my Uncle. Yet no one will know if I'm telling the truth or not.

One last thing ... how, in God's good name, can you say you are that rich and earning SOOO much more than everyone else, if you have an attitude like that? Most clients would have dumped you by now ... let's see your stuff... it must be exceptional for them to take your attitude too ;) :D

With out the bad the good wouldn't be good.

so show us some of your amazing designed sites

alienq invented amp

What would be interesting is a design company that GUARANTEED their design's conversions... I am not sure if that's possible though. Not with 1:1 traffic correlation at least (since any given program has tons of differing traffic sources). There's been some interesting attempts with A/B testing but those are mostly text driven tweaks and mostly mainstream.

amp cant design worth shit

http://www.guaranteeddesigns.com does that I believe, although his work is really messy.

amp, are u drinking and posting again?!?

This can be applied to any kind of job almost, their are only a few who truly can innovate and make bank, and their is many many others who just like to pretend.

It is because of the volume. When you order 100 galleries you get a different price per galery compared with the price for one. So the prices drop. At the mainstream you have to make ONE desgign.

Egomancer