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~Ray 05-26-2006 02:35 PM

Can you hide things in images?
 
When you create an image, can you hide something in it that would return results when you search for it. so you can see what domains have your picture on them.

Just curious.

SilentKnight 05-26-2006 02:51 PM

I vaguely recall something about Suze Randall using some sort of spider algorithm that searched for her own original images after the Max Sheridan/Reactor infringement case.

But I don't know if that was simply a bluff...or a real capability.

woj 05-26-2006 02:52 PM

yes, you can create invisible watermarks... there are photoshop plugins and other software that does that...

XPays 05-26-2006 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex
When you create an image, can you hide something in it that would return results when you search for it. so you can see what domains have your picture on them.

Just curious.

worried about all the non-public domain content owners finding your handywork?

~Ray 05-26-2006 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by XPays
worried about all the non-public domain content owners finding your handywork?

yes, that's it. you nailed it again little boy.

Basic_man 05-26-2006 03:04 PM

The_name_of_the_image.jpg :)

SilentKnight 05-26-2006 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Basic_man
The_name_of_the_image.jpg :)

:1orglaugh

Thankfully pirates never change filenames...otherwise we'd be in REAL trouble.

~Ray 05-26-2006 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Basic_man
The_name_of_the_image.jpg :)

I was just trying to think of a way to find those forums that everyone talks about posting all of their member's area. might be a little program worth some $$$ to resell... :2 cents:

Violetta 05-26-2006 03:10 PM

I think I remember something about writing in the image code, while I was really into hacking and stuff. lol But cant remember shit now!

WWC-Pajio 05-26-2006 03:10 PM

....I beleive that it's true! I tried it once.. you can hide some infos in a pic and when you want other to read you give them a code or something and they can encode it!!

madawgz 05-26-2006 03:13 PM

invisible watermarks? never heard of that before

quantum-x 05-26-2006 03:24 PM

Yes.
It's called steganography - and it's been around for literally hundreds of years.
Essentially, it's the science / art of concealing something in another.

Dating back hundreds of years ago with artists putting paintings inside, behind, and in paintings [...davinci code anyone] - modern implementations include hiding text within text and datafiles [IE, on fat 32, a cluster is 32kb. When you save a file smaller than 32kb, an entire cluster is taken, but the remainder is empty - and this can be used to store 'hidden' data], or the classic of storing something within an image.

For example-

Grab a copy of:
http://users.telenet.be/d.rijmenants/en/steganote.htm

Download
http://ninjito.com/dump/qx-transit-3.bmp

Use the password 'gofuckyourself' - and preseto.

Data within data.

There are many implementations of similar software - files in images just happens to be the most impressive / dramatic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steganography might prove interesting.

quantum-x 05-26-2006 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by madawgz
invisible watermarks? never heard of that before

Doesn't surprise me :thumbsup

chase 05-26-2006 03:36 PM

digimark?

~Ray 05-26-2006 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quantum-x
Yes.
It's called steganography - and it's been around for literally hundreds of years.
Essentially, it's the science / art of concealing something in another.

Dating back hundreds of years ago with artists putting paintings inside, behind, and in paintings [...davinci code anyone] - modern implementations include hiding text within text and datafiles [IE, on fat 32, a cluster is 32kb. When you save a file smaller than 32kb, an entire cluster is taken, but the remainder is empty - and this can be used to store 'hidden' data], or the classic of storing something within an image.

For example-

Grab a copy of:
http://users.telenet.be/d.rijmenants/en/steganote.htm

Download
http://ninjito.com/dump/qx-transit-3.bmp

Use the password 'gofuckyourself' - and preseto.

Data within data.

There are many implementations of similar software - files in images just happens to be the most impressive / dramatic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steganography might prove interesting.

reading.. thanks

quantum-x 05-26-2006 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by chase
digimark?

digimark is to stegonography what a dying sapling is to a forest.

chase 05-26-2006 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quantum-x
digimark is to stegonography what a dying sapling is to a forest.


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
Sorry, the analogy just made me giggle.
Thanks for the lesson. :thumbsup

spacedog 05-26-2006 03:50 PM

You can embed copyright & other info with photoshop & pretty nuch any photo/image editor.


You can also change the file type to .txt & you'll see code & you can add a searchable string at the top in a comment tag then change it back to the original file type

~Ray 05-26-2006 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by spacedog
You can embed copyright & other info with photoshop & pretty nuch any photo/image editor.


You can also change the file type to .txt & you'll see code & you can add a searchable string at the top in a comment tag then change it back to the original file type

that seems reasonable too. thanks

quantum-x 05-26-2006 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex
that seems reasonable too. thanks

What exactly are you trying to do?

SilentKnight 05-26-2006 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by quantum-x

Cool, thanx...checkin' it out.

spacedog 05-26-2006 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by quantum-x
What exactly are you trying to do?

He wants hidden information embedded inside the image so he can use google & search for the string & see who is using his images.

~Ray 05-26-2006 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by spacedog
He wants hidden information embedded inside the image so he can use google & search for the string & see who is using his images.

that would be a nice tool to have when/if I ever open advertisingsex.com

Young 05-26-2006 04:15 PM

too bad none of the suggestions here come even close to what you are looking for. typical gfy.

quantum-x 05-26-2006 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Young
too bad none of the suggestions here come even close to what you are looking for. typical gfy.

And that was a fucken helpfull post wasn't it. :321GFY

quantum-x 05-26-2006 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex
that would be a nice tool to have when/if I ever open advertisingsex.com

Just re-read your question.

I'd suggest using EXIF data. Although it can be read / removed by most, I have a suspicion that search engines use this in their results (others can verify) - and languages like PHP have inbuilt support for reading / writing exif data.

It would be no stretch to code a script that automatically spidered google / yahoo images and auto read / checked EXIF data on matching images.

Malicious Biz 05-26-2006 04:19 PM

this program -> http://www.miltonsoft.com/

can find really obscure images. I don't know how it works but from what I understand it works really well. might wanna look into it.

~Ray 05-26-2006 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Young
too bad none of the suggestions here come even close to what you are looking for. typical gfy.

can you point me in the right direction?

aico 05-26-2006 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Young
too bad none of the suggestions here come even close to what you are looking for. typical gfy.

You're such a jackass. Don't you have some situps to do or something?

~Ray 05-26-2006 04:22 PM

thanks for the replies. seems there are a few choices.

~Ray

SmokeyTheBear 05-26-2006 04:24 PM

google can detect words written on pics if they are visible , it takes awhile for google to add your images but try this make a nice clean white pic and put a search term not found n google images in the pic then link to it with different words on a page frequently spidered by google , then wait , it will find the words. so using that , you should be able to add some text in the corner ( but it would have to be visible text ) on a porn pic and it should find it.. i suggest doing some tests with opacity on text or such on some demo blanks and see what google can see and what they cant , it might be possible to hide small words in random places so it wouldnt hinder the image and have google detect it

aico 05-26-2006 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
google can detect words written on pics if they are visible , it takes awhile for google to add your images but try this make a nice clean white pic and put a search term not found n google images in the pic then link to it with different words on a page frequently spidered by google , then wait , it will find the words. so using that , you should be able to add some text in the corner ( but it would have to be visible text ) on a porn pic and it should find it.. i suggest doing some tests with opacity on text or such on some demo blanks and see what google can see and what they cant , it might be possible to hide small words in random places so it wouldnt hinder the image and have google detect it

Doesn't Matrix do this? I see their little text in the bottom rt corner of all their images.

~Ray 05-26-2006 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
google can detect words written on pics if they are visible , it takes awhile for google to add your images but try this make a nice clean white pic and put a search term not found n google images in the pic then link to it with different words on a page frequently spidered by google , then wait , it will find the words. so using that , you should be able to add some text in the corner ( but it would have to be visible text ) on a porn pic and it should find it.. i suggest doing some tests with opacity on text or such on some demo blanks and see what google can see and what they cant , it might be possible to hide small words in random places so it wouldnt hinder the image and have google detect it

I should have just icq'd you. :)

2HousePlague 05-26-2006 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex
I should have just icq'd you. :)


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


2hp

KRL 05-26-2006 04:52 PM

Yeh, I've seen that.


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