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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-14-2006 03:50 PM

If I was so smart...
 
Why arent I rich?


I will tell you new folks...

It takes money to make money here. I came from the white trash of the trash, poor as fuck, I barely make it in this industry.

With the right money things would be vastly different.

It's a players industry and if ya got awesome talent and ability you might make it to get by, but if you do not have a stock cash, you are fucked and will live as I do.

There are exceptions of total rag's to riches in this industry but do not let those stories fool you into believing that you can beat that curve.

Odd's are you won't and you are better off working full time shifts at 7/11.

MaddCaz 05-14-2006 03:58 PM

Ummm how bad off do you have it??

Rebecca Love 05-14-2006 04:00 PM

Takes money to make money.:2 cents:

2HousePlague 05-14-2006 04:28 PM

Just my :2 cents: , Mark.

1. Do your best to inspire confidence and trust.

2. Try not to be a crackpot/loose cannon.


Money follows the best bet.



2hp

chupachups 05-14-2006 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2HousePlague
Just my :2 cents: , Mark.

1. Do your best to inspire confidence and trust.

2. Try not to be a crackpot/loose cannon.


Money follows the best bet.



2hp


Yepp I agree. So Alien, got any brilliant ideas currently - I am interested to invest :)

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-14-2006 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2HousePlague
Just my :2 cents: , Mark.

1. Do your best to inspire confidence and trust.

2. Try not to be a crackpot/loose cannon.


Money follows the best bet.



2hp

I know you are right.
But its just not in me to be a pussy.

Can you imagine me sitting around the boards going

"Hello my name is AlienQ! Buy my content and let me design for you! I am your best friend and I can't wait to suck your dick because you are truly a great guy! Ghee I love everyone in this industry I can say nothing bad about anyone!"
On the surface I am a crack pot loose canon, I intend that.
I rather not have those that judge by popular opinion on my side but those that take what I say for what it is. Entertainment and then comence biz on a more realistic level.

If you judge peeps totally on the boards I am sorry..

You are total fucken moron and I'd rather not chat with folks that are that way. Fuck them, they do nothing more than showboat anyways.

jonesy 05-14-2006 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
Why arent I rich?


I will tell you new folks...

It takes money to make money here. I came from the white trash of the trash, poor as fuck, I barely make it in this industry.

With the right money things would be vastly different.

It's a players industry and if ya got awesome talent and ability you might make it to get by, but if you do not have a stock cash, you are fucked and will live as I do.



bullshit - excuses like these are for losers.

either you want it or you dont.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-14-2006 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesy
bullshit - excuses like these are for losers.

either you want it or you dont.

HAhah keep smokin that pipe Jonesy.

:1orglaugh

Chest to heart.
You wont make it unless ya do something extraordinary.

Thats a fact.:1orglaugh
Make no mistake millions "Want It"...

But it wont happen.

LOL!
Ya might come accross a "Connection" in your life, odd's are "it" still wont happen. Connections are powerful make no mistake but still a long shot yo!

WDchris 05-14-2006 04:48 PM

7/11, huh?

will76 05-14-2006 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
Why arent I rich?


I will tell you new folks...

It takes money to make money here. I came from the white trash of the trash, poor as fuck, I barely make it in this industry.

With the right money things would be vastly different.

It's a players industry and if ya got awesome talent and ability you might make it to get by, but if you do not have a stock cash, you are fucked and will live as I do.

There are exceptions of total rag's to riches in this industry but do not let those stories fool you into believing that you can beat that curve.

Odd's are you won't and you are better off working full time shifts at 7/11.

Thats some great motivational advice there, do you mind if i frame it and hang it on my wall.

will76 05-14-2006 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
HAhah keep smokin that pipe Jonesy.

:1orglaugh

Chest to heart.
You wont make it unless ya do something extraordinary.

Thats a fact.:1orglaugh
Make no mistake millions "Want It"...

But it wont happen.

LOL!
Ya might come accross a "Connection" in your life, odd's are "it" still wont happen. Connections are powerful make no mistake but still a long shot yo!

make no mistake you seem to like the phrase make no mistake.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-14-2006 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WDchris
7/11, huh?

Well maybe in Europe ya can look forward to Mc Donald's or Taco bell, or perhaps pick up a nice part timer at a "Distinguished" restaraunt, or perhaps pick up some job in IT. Maybe anything else.

Make no mistake your visit into PORN is usually nothing more than a passing fad in your reality. Most of you will never even make it to "Veteran".

2HousePlague 05-14-2006 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
I know you are right.
But its just not in me to be a pussy.

Can you imagine me sitting around the boards going

"Hello my name is AlienQ! Buy my content and let me design for you! I am your best friend and I can't wait to suck your dick because you are truly a great guy! Ghee I love everyone in this industry I can say nothing bad about anyone!"
On the surface I am a crack pot loose canon, I intend that.
I rather not have those that judge by popular opinion on my side but those that take what I say for what it is. Entertainment and then comence biz on a more realistic level.

If you judge peeps totally on the boards I am sorry..

You are total fucken moron and I'd rather not chat with folks that are that way. Fuck them, they do nothing more than showboat anyways.

Pussy.

Politician.





2hp

nico-t 05-14-2006 04:52 PM

i love that sig gif

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-14-2006 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76
make no mistake you seem to like the phrase make no mistake.


I quote G Bush...

The man that coined the phrase during the preamble to Iraq.

When ya settle in for the long war and hard times...
Then maybe you are ready for real adult business:thumbsup

StuartD 05-14-2006 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
If you judge peeps totally on the boards I am sorry..

You are total fucken moron and I'd rather not chat with folks that are that way. Fuck them, they do nothing more than showboat anyways.

Who's the moron? The one who treats the boards like the end all be all of business.... or the person who dismisses what little business potential there is at all?

And keep in mind, you don't just dismiss it, you bash it into the ground and make people want to avoid any business with you at all.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-14-2006 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chupachups
Yepp I agree. So Alien, got any brilliant ideas currently - I am interested to invest :)

Dude. You couldnt afford to sell your grandma's fucken panties on EBAY. Get outah here.

Nismo 05-14-2006 04:55 PM

This thread is bull fucking shit. I come from nothing - started out with $0.00 and I'm doing pretty well for myself.

madawgz 05-14-2006 04:55 PM

well yea, you need money to make more money

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-14-2006 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD
Who's the moron? The one who treats the boards like the end all be all of business.... or the person who dismisses what little business potential there is at all?

And keep in mind, you don't just dismiss it, you bash it into the ground and make people want to avoid any business with you at all.


LOL:) Good, because there is alot of business on the net.:1orglaugh
This mother fucker does not matter an ounce.

chupachups 05-14-2006 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
Dude. You couldnt afford to sell your grandma's fucken panties on EBAY. Get outah here.

Wow.... you are so utterly stupid Alien. All the shit you got yourself into you really deserve.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-14-2006 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nismo
This thread is bull fucking shit. I come from nothing - started out with $0.00 and I'm doing pretty well for myself.

And I doubt you are really "the Man" behind Bang Bros:1orglaugh

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-14-2006 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chupachups
Wow.... you are so utterly stupid Alien. All the shit you got yourself into you really deserve.


You not shown me shit ya fuckin looser.:1orglaugh

To me you are nothing more than an attention whore fake nic. I will abuse you anyway I please.

Nismo 05-14-2006 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
And I doubt you are really "the Man" behind Bang Bros:1orglaugh

And I doubt I am too.

AllStar 05-14-2006 05:00 PM

Really man...I can give you a piece of advice?
Loosen up. Treat people with the same respect that you would expect to be treated with even when others aren't.
Don't comfort yourself with pity.
Be honest, friendly, lend a hand and earn the respect of your peers.

They will all want to have you around, work with you and admire you!
There is no better wealth then that, health and a loving family.
The money will come it is only time...

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-14-2006 05:00 PM

Lets get to facts.

Matrix Content as much as you little faggots talk shit guess what...

They still get mad sales...

Boards do not matter one fuckin bit.

The same can be said for numerous companies!
Get real realistic. If you think boards really matter you are sadly mistaken.
I thought you folks would have learned that lesson from PimpDawg or even AMP.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-14-2006 05:02 PM

Fact also.


I still get sales, I still do design and I been doing this shit for years....

Same thing, same dial, same techniques, same sig views, same FUCKING EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are cattle.

If you mean real business get on the contact list and establish somthing realistic.

chupachups 05-14-2006 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
You not shown me shit ya fuckin looser.:1orglaugh

To me you are nothing more than an attention whore fake nic. I will abuse you anyway I please.

Well, I have been using my "fake nick" here for a while now havent I? As far as attention whore goes; who are you to call someone an attention whore? I am not the one starting redicilous drama every other minute, totally trashing the small "rep" I got, to sell a few hundreds worth of content.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-14-2006 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllStar
Really man...I can give you a piece of advice?
Loosen up. Treat people with the same respect that you would expect to be treated with even when others aren't.
Don't comfort yourself with pity.
Be honest, friendly, lend a hand and earn the respect of your peers.

They will all want to have you around, work with you and admire you!
There is no better wealth then that, health and a loving family.
The money will come it is only time...

Dude...

You got a long way to learn.

You do not want friends in the business. Infact thats the last thing you want and the last thing you can afford.

Fucken christ...

jonesy 05-14-2006 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
HAhah keep smokin that pipe Jonesy.

:1orglaugh

Chest to heart.
You wont make it unless ya do something extraordinary.

Thats a fact.:1orglaugh
Make no mistake millions "Want It"...

But it wont happen.

LOL!
Ya might come accross a "Connection" in your life, odd's are "it" still wont happen. Connections are powerful make no mistake but still a long shot yo!


sure having a bankroll helps i agree but it doesnt mean youll be successfull.


working your ass off, fortitude and focus are the key elements of being successfull and a little luck too.



im smoking the pipe?

ill let you in on a little secrect - i didnt buy your explanation the other day.
no big deal. i left it alone because it should be left alone.
if you waana get into it hit me up on icq but not here :thumbsup

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-14-2006 05:21 PM

Jonesy you are a good guy, hell most of ya guys are...

Just do not get disillusioned into believing everyone is your friend.

Once again I got relie on my experience in the industry. Its anything but fun, sexy or exciting. Far fromm it. Shit most of you fuckers have never even once taken a picture of a naked girl.


I live day to day like I do, and I keep trying at all costs.

It's not because I am an asshole, it's not because I lack talent and it's not because of the funny little trolls that live day to day saying negative shit about me or my business.

The fact is I lack the finances to pull off my dreams that could work in the real world, and even if so those dreams would have to hit to make a serious rank.

I do not aspire to be the next Gates, Mark D, or Fantasyman, Steven Hersch...

Perhaps for those of you with big dreams oughtah sit down and realise the world before you is Fucking huge and how to capitalise on it will not be the same way predecessors have.

BusterBunny 05-14-2006 05:23 PM

too late for sig spot?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-14-2006 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BusterBunny
too late for sig spot?


Way to late you fucken sig whore...
Ya do realise you are simply nothing more than a polution to peoples eyes right?

2HousePlague 05-14-2006 05:26 PM

PS: Both men were undeniably among the grandest minds of all Human history. Though both made seminal contributions to the development of Nuclear energy, remember that #1 was #2's boss. When the destructive potential (the horror) of what they had created became apparent, both men appreciated their implicit responsibility in the unleashing of a monster on the Human species. The difference: Man #1 dropped out of the game, did little more than write (arguably ineffectual though poignant) letters for the rest of his career, was, during MCcarthy Madness, accused of being a communist (necessitating that his old friends and employers write letters on his behalf to clear him of the charges if not the opprobrium) and became so obscure and muddled a figure in History (both American and Academic) that the true scope and importance of his contributions are largely un-appreciated. In contrast, Man#2 realized that the best way to fight Evil was to remain an active member in the political and scientific communities were the fate of Evil would be decided. He remained powerful, respected, and influential. His later achievements in Quantum Physics not only dwarfed the work done in New Mexico, they helped to illuminate a new realm of research and enquiry in Physics that would excite and inspire not only Physicists, but the common man. He became a figure in the mass culture, and managed, by the end of his life, to have left as the basic message of his legacy the eternally ponderable: "Shit happens".





2hp

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-14-2006 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2HousePlague
PS: Both men were undeniably among the grandest minds of all Human history. Though both made seminal contributions to the development of Nuclear energy, remember that #1 was #2's boss. When the destructive potential (the horror) of what they had created became apparent, both men appreciated their implicit responsibility in the unleashing of a monster on the Human species. The difference: Man #1 dropped out of the game, did little more than write (arguably ineffectual though poignant) letters for the rest of his career, was, during MCcarthy Madness, accused of being a communist (necessitating that his old friends and employers write letters on his behalf to clear him of the charges if not the opprobrium) and became so obscure and muddled a figure in History (both American and Academic) that the true scope and importance of his contributions are largely un-appreciated. In contrast, Man#2 realized that the best way to fight Evil was to remain an active member in the political and scientific communities were the fate of Evil would be decided. He remained powerful, respected, and influential. His later achievements in Quantum Physics not only dwarfed the work done in New Mexico, they helped to illuminate a new realm of research and enquiry in Physics that would excite and inspire not only Physicists, but the common man. He became a figure in the mass culture, and managed, by the end of his life, to have left as the basic message of his legacy the eternally ponderable: "Shit happens".







2hp

2House.



Not worry...

I will keep speaking till someone places a bullet in my chest.

I have no choice and thats the way it is.

2HousePlague 05-14-2006 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
2House.



Not worry...

I will keep speaking till someone places a bullet in my chest.

I have no choice and thats the way it is.

Cool. Wouldn't have been no bomb without #1 -- :winkwink:



2hp

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-14-2006 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaddCaz
Ummm how bad off do you have it??

It is irrelevant in relation to you or anyone for that matter.

Life is not about everyone else, its about you and your choices.

Me though, I prefer to speak up and voice things that folks are afraid to say, I say things that could make me rich but at the same to lazy to do...

So its not about me:)

Its you...

potter 05-14-2006 06:18 PM

I know plenty of people who make a living, as well as a handful that are "rich" (in most anyone's definition) who started with nothing and just devoted themselves to this job. "it takes money to make money" is a truth but not the absolution. Hard work and dedication are also the keys to success. Money will only help you you on the quest.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-14-2006 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by potter
I know plenty of people who make a living, as well as a handful that are "rich" (in most anyone's definition) who started with nothing and just devoted themselves to this job. "it takes money to make money" is a truth but not the absolution. Hard work and dedication are also the keys to success. Money will only help you you on the quest.

Nice translation.

Take money to make money...
Real money.

Biggy 05-14-2006 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nismo
This thread is bull fucking shit. I come from nothing - started out with $0.00 and I'm doing pretty well for myself.

yup, same here. self-pity and self-deprecation are terrible qualities to have. i'm also friends with a lot of successful people in the industry who were never given anything on a silver platter also.

bulkcontent 05-14-2006 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WDchris
7/11, huh?

HELL no - Circle K all the way!
:321GFY

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-14-2006 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biggy
yup, same here. self-pity and self-deprecation are terrible qualities to have. i'm also friends with a lot of successful people in the industry who were never given anything on a silver platter also.

You miss the condition.

I myself have had plenty of opportunity to make "It Big", just never been willing to cash in on those around me.

I do not cash out friends. Thats bad Business. To much Risk for me.

And MelisaMidwest, 18yearsold.com is hardly a pock mark in the real world.

potter 05-14-2006 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
Nice translation.

Take money to make money...
Real money.

No, nice try to skew it though. What I'm saying is... Hard work, knowledge, and dedication are more important than money to become successful in this biz.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-14-2006 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by potter
No, nice try to skew it though. What I'm saying is... Hard work, knowledge, and dedication are more important than money to become successful in this biz.

I thought so to...

LOL, what an idiot I was.

potter 05-14-2006 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
I thought so to...

LOL, what an idiot I was.


Sorry, but it's not stupid. The whole ideology you have just seems like an easy way for you to blame someone or something else for your own pitfalls. Just to make an example of a fairly "cheap" way to make something of yourself in the biz. By becoming a tgp/blog webmaster ~

It costs roughly $5-10 for a domain. And then $10-20 for decent hosting with a couple hundred gigs a month transfer. So your total cost is mere pocket change. With knowledge and dedication it is easy to turn that $20~ a month into a decent profit. With this profit your site is now self sustaining, meaning it no longer costs you anything for upkeep (it pays for itself). Once you have a decent profit you can then purchase benefits such as a dedicated server, traffic, scripts, design, or content. Which will increase profits - giving you even more revenue to spend on more benefits. So on and so on. Now, even though that sounds easy. It is a very in-depth and daunting task. You have to be very knowledgeable in the biz and know what does what and where (how to convert, how to maintain & grow traffic, who to trade with, where to submit, seo, what affiliate programs to use, etc etc etc). As well as be dedicated and spend your time making it work. You can't just put up a web page and expect it to run itself.

So like I said. Money to start with just makes it easier & a bit faster to become successful. It's hard work, dedication, and your knowledge of the field that are what really counts. :thumbsup

WiredGuy 05-15-2006 04:25 AM

I don't think I'm an exception but here's my short story... started off in debt, I was a full time double major student. Started by doing freelance consulting for small companies, then re-investing that money into small scale media buys and grew from there. While it may take a large amount of money to scale an operation quickly, if you do use the money you earn wisely, it can payoff. I did end up graduation debt free and with a solid business model to grow from there so it did work for me and it can work for you. Really, it can.
WG

Choppa 05-15-2006 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2HousePlague
Just my :2 cents: , Mark.

1. Do your best to inspire confidence and trust.

2. Try not to be a crackpot/loose cannon.


Money follows the best bet.



2hp


Have to agree with 2HP on this :pimp

E$_manager 05-17-2006 06:24 AM

that is right/ You have to have money and then you have to be smart too.
And you have to be not lazy.

StuartD 05-17-2006 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy
I don't think I'm an exception but here's my short story... started off in debt, I was a full time double major student. Started by doing freelance consulting for small companies, then re-investing that money into small scale media buys and grew from there. While it may take a large amount of money to scale an operation quickly, if you do use the money you earn wisely, it can payoff. I did end up graduation debt free and with a solid business model to grow from there so it did work for me and it can work for you. Really, it can.
WG

And you're still young. :winkwink:

jimthefiend 05-17-2006 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
I thought so to...

LOL, what an idiot I was.


And that hasnt changed one iota...


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