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jimthefiend 05-10-2006 08:54 AM

I am not sending traffic to Fleshlight and here is why:
 
WTF?

My issues:

No stats at ALL in this new site 'cept sales. No click data at all. Even though the old backend rarely worked it was better than nothing.

I have tried 4 times to change some info in my account details, to no avail. It simply will NOT record the changes.

They state that they will pay out via Epass, but I cannot find ANY info to set that up.

I have some SERIOUS questions about the nature of their cookies and the way they are handled.

http://www.fleshlight.com/main/announcements.php is a joke. This does not work: "To access your affiliate account on the old fleshlight.com store, click http://www.old.fleshlight.com/main/affiliates.cfm."; possibly because the moron who wrote it is clueless on syntax, but I've tried at least 5 variations on it and the page simply does not exist.


There are all kinds of other little problems, not least is the whole phone number thing which I feel is inapropriate.





So at any rate. I have submitted SEVERAL support tickets and so far am being ignored. I decided to contact Ramos r.e. this and have been ignored as well.


I posted here asking him to hit me up.

I started THIS thread asking the same.

I sent a couple of ICQ's.




Guess what? Ignored.

Then I waited 24 hours before starting this thread.






Now look dude, seriously. I understand that you're busy gettting your ass plugged by trannys and all. I know you had to then start a thread about it. This new job is obviously chock full of serious responsibilty. I feel for ya.

I don't wanna cut into your oh so valuable time, I however have am done.

jimthefiend 05-10-2006 09:05 AM

I wanna make it clear that this is ME talking and no one else.

munki 05-10-2006 09:06 AM

It's ok... Ill take your sales.

Splum 05-10-2006 09:07 AM

I am starting to get the same bad vibe about Fleshlight my sales have dropped off tremendously. Think they have run their course?

Nicky 05-10-2006 09:08 AM

Bump for replies

CyberHustler 05-10-2006 09:09 AM

Where's Ramos? ... hope everything works out well

jimthefiend 05-10-2006 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splum
I am starting to get the same bad vibe about Fleshlight my sales have dropped off tremendously. Think they have run their course?



Yes I do.


Something else interesting:


Follow your own links to their "Legends gym" thing. Look carefully at the ref codes on certain ads.

ffmihai 05-10-2006 09:26 AM

well i was going to start sending some traffic.. lets see some replies

u-Bob 05-10-2006 09:37 AM

bump
bump

jimthefiend 05-10-2006 09:41 AM

I'm really not trying to "slam" Ramos here, the tranny stuff was snide and maybe uncalled for. But then maybe not, I dunno.

I am pretty pissed though. I have what I feel to be SEVERAL legitimate concerns and I'm highly irritated that no one will address them.



Don't guess it matters as this point...

american pervert 05-10-2006 09:45 AM

ramos is in toronto, wait til he gets back to bitch.... and give him some time to fix everything... there are major changes going on.

jimthefiend 05-10-2006 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by american perv
ramos is in toronto, wait til he gets back to bitch.... and give him some time to fix everything... there are major changes going on.



Oh bullshit. He had time to start a fucking thread about getting fucked by a tranny but can't answer a business related fucking ICQ message?

And what about their support? Are they ALL in Toronto?

Even if they all WERE in Toronto that excuses none of this. Ramos is a Rep and not a tech...


Gimme a fucking break.

jimthefiend 05-10-2006 09:49 AM

Also yeah Perv, I agree. There ARE major changes going on: They are losing affiliates. Thats pretty major.





Fuck this I'm done. Getting a shower.

TDF 05-10-2006 09:51 AM

Jim Is Raginggggggggggg

StuartD 05-10-2006 09:54 AM

I don't promote it because I believe that it will lead to economic and social collapse around the world as men de-evolve into grunting and growning self obsessed brutes with hairy palms with a rubbery baby oil smell.

fuzebox 05-10-2006 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimthefiend
I have some SERIOUS questions about the nature of their cookies and the way they are handled.

I really don't like the fact that the first affiliate to send the surfer gets the credit, even if the surfer clicks through your link afterwards and buys. I discovered this when I had sales show up in their beta system that weren't showing up in the normal system...

Jakke PNG 05-10-2006 10:17 AM

Here's why I don't promote flehlight:
I buy mine in bulk and sell them myself. :)

Pure Evil 05-10-2006 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by american perv
ramos is in toronto, wait til he gets back to bitch.... and give him some time to fix everything... there are major changes going on.

Why? Business doesn't stop just because one person wants to go party. And don't give me that crap about going to Toronto to conduct business, because I would be willing to bet that just about everyone there already knows him and knows what he does. If he is their only rep, then I would HIGHLY recommend that they think about hiring enough people to do the job. I'm not trying to come down on you american perv (or even Ramos) so I hope you don't take it that way, it just gets irritating the way the "business" is conducted in this industry. Half of the time it's a joke.

King Adam 05-10-2006 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimthefiend
Oh bullshit. He had time to start a fucking thread about getting fucked by a tranny but can't answer a business related fucking ICQ message?

And what about their support? Are they ALL in Toronto?

Even if they all WERE in Toronto that excuses none of this. Ramos is a Rep and not a tech...

Gimme a fucking break.

This is a very valid point. Not all of Fleshlights support can be in Canada. I don't know any company that flies their entire support team there.

And if Ramos was starting new funny/silly threads, than he of course should be answering biz calls and ICQz. Thats his job now.

I've butted heads with jim on more than one occasion but I agree with him on this one.

I do like Ramos a lot .. great guy. I hope he makes taking care of affilaites his up most responsibility.

Manowar 05-10-2006 10:28 AM

jimthefiend is my hero

jimthefiend 05-10-2006 10:30 AM

Man it's like this. The ADDRESS for checks to be sent to is an office I had last year that I don't even KEEP anymore. I've been losing all kinds of mail because the change of address I filed with the post office seems to be only around 20% functional.

I can't change the address Fleshlight has on file because their back end is a rancid pile of dog shit.

I can't switch to Epass.



I'm not even sure I would get CREDIT for sales because of the cookie issue, much less paid for them.






So what? They expect me to just take it on faith that everything is copacetic?



I don't fucking think so.

beemk 05-10-2006 10:31 AM

ive been having the same trouble. back when it was invite only and dan was in charge i never had a problem in the world.

JD 05-10-2006 10:32 AM

the stats thing is a bitch and I too cannot make any changes in the user details. Tried changing my pw and email....the changes don't stick. Might be because they're using a hacked version of OsCommerce for their backend :error

JD 05-10-2006 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beemk
ive been having the same trouble. back when it was invite only and dan was in charge i never had a problem in the world.

same :thumbsup

jimthefiend 05-10-2006 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Adam
This is a very valid point. Not all of Fleshlights support can be in Canada. I don't know any company that flies their entire support team there.

And if Ramos was starting new funny/silly threads, than he of course should be answering biz calls and ICQz. Thats his job now.

I've butted heads with jim on more than one occasion but I agree with him on this one.

I do like Ramos a lot .. great guy. I hope he makes taking care of affilaites his up most responsibility.



Ramos was on GFY as late as 4am this morning, so I assume that he saw at least his Tranny thread and my icqs. I like Ramos too, alot; and so I gave a good window of time for this to be resolved. I even put the fact that their online support system was apparently deleting every ticket I filed (LOL) to the back of my head.

jjjay 05-10-2006 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimthefiend
I even put the fact that their online support system was apparently deleting every ticket I filed (LOL) to the back of my head.

:1orglaugh I delete support tickets sometimes when I really can't be bothered to answer them

seeric 05-10-2006 10:40 AM

nothing against ramos, but i pulled my links because of the stats thing and the fact that links and spots i placed them in generated more than 15 thousand clicks per week with similar products and the ctr to fleshlight showed numbers of 250 some odd clicks over a two week period time. not right. i hope they get their stuff together, i'd love to take some of that money. all friendship aside, i seperate biz from friends, ramos is cool, but biz can't be hurt because of the backend over there. nothin personal dude.


oh wait, i forgot, i'm a sig whore, forget what i said i know nothin about traffic!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

davethetruth 05-10-2006 10:44 AM

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But since you are...

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jimthefiend 05-10-2006 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR
Might be because they're using a hacked version of OsCommerce for their backend :error


You're fucking kidding me.

davethetruth 05-10-2006 10:45 AM

Oh and I'm having more creatives done this week, hpa, fpa, and much more. (To add to our 100s of banners)

King Adam 05-10-2006 10:47 AM

He logged on to his myspace page today. Maybe send him an email through that. I get lots of business emails through myspace.

Pipecrew 05-10-2006 10:48 AM

Some companies send webmasters to every single noname convention, even the ones some webmaster throws in his backyard. Look for the "Picture Post" and hit them up then!!

jimthefiend 05-10-2006 10:51 AM

Adam man, I refuse. I might as well email someone at Adult and ask for his cell phone number. :1orglaugh

I have sent in numerous support tickets.
I have asked him twice on GFY to contact me.
I have sent 2 Icq's which I KNOW he recieved.




I've also pulled the links, so fuck it. When and IF they get their shit together I'll re-examine the issue. It's a good product, just needs to be managed better.



Now I have to go pick up the cat.

CaptainHowdy 05-10-2006 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjjay
:1orglaugh I delete support tickets sometimes when I really can't be bothered to answer them

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :Oh crap!!

King Adam 05-10-2006 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimthefiend
Adam man, I refuse. I might as well email someone at Adult and ask for his cell phone number. :1orglaugh

I have sent in numerous support tickets.
I have asked him twice on GFY to contact me.
I have sent 2 Icq's which I KNOW he recieved.

I've also pulled the links, so fuck it. When and IF they get their shit together I'll re-examine the issue. It's a good product, just needs to be managed better.

Now I have to go pick up the cat.

I hear ya. You shouldn't have to do all that in order to get some communication from them. They should be on it and want to take care of their affilaites. Sometimes I think people would rather party and make new friends/affiliates then take the time to solve a problem of an old affialite.:2 cents:
I took my links down as well. Their system is just too messy.

jjjay 05-10-2006 10:59 AM

uh oh. I can hear the sound of juicy's commission checks shrinking...

Pure Evil 05-10-2006 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Adam
Sometimes I think people would rather party and make new friends/affiliates then take the time to solve a problem of an old affialite.

Congratulations! You've just summed up the single biggest problem with this industry. :thumbsup

NoCarrier 05-10-2006 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by american perv
ramos is in toronto, wait til he gets back to bitch.... and give him some time to fix everything... there are major changes going on.

There's only ONE person taking care of webmaster issues for "Fleshlight"?

WOW!!!! That's what I call basic customer service :1orglaugh

jimthefiend 05-10-2006 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjjay
uh oh. I can hear the sound of juicy's commission checks shrinking...



Or growing. Maybe certain ill advised personel decisions were made. Thats a whole other topic though.

StuartD 05-10-2006 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pure Evil
Congratulations! You've just summed up the single biggest problem with this industry. :thumbsup

And here I thought it was the shady underbelly of scamming, spamming, cheating, shaving, conning, stealing, thieving and deceiving.

jjjay 05-10-2006 11:04 AM

maybe they're all too busy sampling their product

"don't get high off your own supply"

jjjay 05-10-2006 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimthefiend
Or growing. Maybe certain ill advised personel decisions were made. Thats a whole other topic though.

you can't say something like that, and not give more details...

jimthefiend 05-10-2006 11:08 AM

It's not my place, and I shouldnt have even said THAT.



LOL I'm outa here for a while.

TDF 05-10-2006 11:09 AM

i sale john doe sale stats

Pure Evil 05-10-2006 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD
And here I thought it was the shady underbelly of scamming, spamming, cheating, shaving, conning, stealing, thieving and deceiving.

Yeah, the dishonesty comes in an extremely close second (only because that is found in most other industries as well).

Juicy D. Links 05-10-2006 11:13 AM

Jim hit me up ill see if i can do something , i have limited access n shit to backend , i just send affs n such ill see if i can get ahold of some at least to help bro.

jimthefiend 05-10-2006 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links
Jim hit me up ill see if i can do something , i have limited access n shit to backend , i just send affs n such ill see if i can get ahold of some at least to help bro.



Thanks man, I'll hit ya up this afternoon. I really need to go get that cat from the vet now, he just got his balls snipped and is prolly cranky. LOL I would be.

Deej 05-10-2006 11:17 AM

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Hope everything gets resolved soon...

Sly 05-10-2006 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Adam
He logged on to his myspace page today. Maybe send him an email through that. I get lots of business emails through myspace.

:1orglaugh

I'm sorry but that is absolutely hilarious that someone has to consider tracking down support through their MySpace page because they don't seem to answer anything else. I am laughing my ass off right now.

Juicy D. Links 05-10-2006 11:21 AM

Jim call Todd at 888-804-4453 ask for Todd , he can give a hand.


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