50 wrong people being charged for murder

50 charged with murder

edit: sos :321GFY :winkwink:

50 black mayors being the victem of whitey and his racism


edit: ok... 53 :)

Pleasurepays, boner.. i love you guys... but you've just been WOJOWNED

Dude HE KNEW THE STORM WAS COMING you fucking simpleton. He KNOWS his city is heavily populated with poor people. He knew damn fucking well that many of those people would not be able to leave of thier own free will. This is a person who thinks like the rest of these socialist liberals think. That the government is there to cradle you like a baby. No it was HIS job(and the Governor) to account for HIS citys poor population and he could have had thousands of them bused on CITY and SCHOOL buses BEFORE the storm hit.

Bus poor people where? to other than the superdome? which he did.
How many of the transportation workers left to get themeselves and their families out?, everyone was looking out for number one. The city needed help federal help in particular to even evac that many people in such a short time.

I like how Bush supporters like to blame anyone except thier king, follow the leader into a lake of fire. :1orglaugh

I love socialists countries and cities like Amsterdam, Canada & Sweden they are ranked higher in the freedom catagory :thumbsup .

A full week? What the fuck are you talking about? 4 days before it hit New Orleans it was a cat 1 storm over Florida and it wasnt expected to do anything more at that point. There wasnt even a hurricane watch for Louisiana until Saturday (2 days before it hit). It wasnt until the day before (Sunday) that they knew for sure it was going to hit New Orleans. Fuck man, know what the hell you're saying before you say it.

:1orglaugh

You obviously LOVE bush .... , that much is crystal clear .... Maybe he could be president of Costa-Rica the day you leave your mom's basement to go there for real ... :1orglaugh

I don't love Bush. I just like pointing out that you idiots that blame everything on him all the time are no better than the people who blindly support him always.

You think I live in my mom's basement? I'll bet you $10,000 I live in Costa Rica, and I haven't lived with my mother for more than 15 years. Care to take me up on it? Oh wait, bandwidth resellers don't have $10,000 to spare, now do they? :1orglaugh

Out of curiousity have you ever lived outside of the city/province you were born in? Do you have a passport? Have you ever travelled anywhere?

So they had 7 days notice a hurricane was building.
2 Days notice it was turning out to be a big hurricane that might well hit New Orleans.
1 Day notice it was deffinetly going to hit.

Wow, sure sounds like it must have been a surprise. I guess that's why most of the population didn't leave the city? Oh wait a second ...

You've already shown you are uninformed and clueless. :1orglaugh

I'm wounded, really.

Where did the rest of the population of New Orleans go to? Did they just guess something bad was going to happen and make a lucky choice to flee the city?

what would Dr. Phil do?

The people who drive those busses most likely left town with their families.
I didn't see you in new orleans offering anyone a ride out of town.
There were free public busses running to the superdome from all over new orleans before the storm hit.

Nagin is one of the very few public officials I have any respect for after this disgrace.

You know, as sickening as it is, watching government propaganda in action is breathetaking. This thread and the idiots posting in it are proof that the majority of people are sheep.

The Feds have unprecedented authority and responsibility in situations like these since the Patriot Act that was forced down our throat. Their excuses are lame, their response is worse, and you idiots make me sick.

The Mayor may very well be a scapegoat but I doubt it. Bush knows he fucked this one up and they are working on a big distraction. Believe that.

There will be plenty of time later to place blame. I'm certain there will be a major congressional investigation into this debacle, and everyone will get their chance to testify before congress so hopefully we can find out where the system broke down to ensure that it doesn't happen again.

Right now you should take the time you're spending blaming people and bitching and use it to make a donation to the red cross.
Don't have anything to donate to the red cross? Use the time you spend bitching and blaming to build a new site and donate the profits from it to the red cross.
:2cents

C'mon man, you've already shown how uninformed you are, are you trying to show how stupid you are too?

Any asshole with half a brain can drive a schoolbus...

man this is scary how successful the rightwing spin machine is working

Yes I'm trying to see if I can reach the level of stupidity that you and Directfiesta display. It's hard work, but i'll try. :thumbsup

Hummmmm, I think I heard someone say that often ... Any idea????

"Compassion is on the way!" -George W. Bush

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You don't want to take me up on that bet or answer any of those questions I asked you? Why am I not surprised?

So nobody knew a hurricane was building? It was a total surprise to everyone, except the 3/4 of the population that made it out of New Orleans?

7 days before the storm hit, people knew full well a hurricane was building. Did they know how big it would? No. Did they know if it would hit New Orleans, or anywhere in specific for that matter? No. Did the population of New Orleans know they were below sea level? I'd hope so. Did they know it was possible a storm could hit New Orleans? Again, they should have.

Fast forward 5 days. T -2 days and warning is given that it's going to be a big storm and it MIGHT hit New Orleans.

Fast foward 1 day. Warning is given this massive storm is most probably going to hit New Orleans.

Now, it's your contention that the President is the primary person responsible for evacuations not being complete? Yeah, I'm the uninformed one here. :thumbsup

I don't take money from kids ...

Okay how about we don't bet money. If I live in Costa Rica, not at my mother's house, you never post here again. If I live at my mother's house in Canada, I'll never post here again?

What's the matter? Do you lack the courage of your convictions?

Some people are so blinded by their hatred for Bush they can't see the city and state really fucked this up big time. The feds rode in to the rescue like they always do !

Wait a second, what am I thinking? Aren't you of French descent, directfiesta? Of course you don't have any courage.

And where pray tell was the city supposed to get the diesel fuel for those busses to evacuate everyone?

WarChild, nobody is saying the president was responsible for evacuating people BEFORE the storm hit, we're pissed off that it's taking so long to evacuate the victims AFTER the storm hit.
After the storm hit all of the municipal resources were destroyed and we had no choice but to count on the feds to bring in what was needed.

If you're really open minded here's a very interesting read (an editorial from the New Orleans Times Picayune)
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/04/tim...ial/index.html

If you're not open minded then there's really no point in having a discussion with you is there?

You're on top of it buddy.. Don't let reality get to you :thumbsup

Christ, not only are you uninformed and stupid, you also have trouble comprehending words.

I'm not arguing that the Fed, and ultimately G.W. as the President shouldn't shoulder some of the responsibility. There very clearly were problems.

That's quite a different thing that "Bush fucked up big time." though, isn't it? When your fries are cold at McDonalds, who's more reponsible? The Fry Cook, the store manager or the CEO of McDonalds? See my point?

huh if your fry is cold, sure...


if the whole fucking mcdonalds blow up and kill several people..it's a different thing though.... bad analogy...

Before it hit, after it hit, it's irrelevant. The point is, Bush isn't the entire Federal Goverment, but it's only HIM that fucked up, right? If it were anybody else's responsibility, you'd surely have mentioned them too?

It was never a moment's notice, either. 2 Days notice of a giant storm that could very well hit your city is not a momen't notice, sorry.

You calling me stupid is never going to convice me, or anybody that knows me, that it's so. Might as well drop that line of argument and stick to the topic at hand.

unless of course you consider that, to Bush and the nation, this disaster is just like a cold "freedom fries" for Mcdonald's CEO...

You might be right about that one.

The point is, there's a whole chain of people here that have some responsibility in this tradgedy. By skipping right to Bush, it shows nothing but a focused hatred. :2 cents:

true...

can't argue that...

saying it's JUST the mayor's fault is just as bad though...

Because they were probably smart enough to heed the 7 fucking day mandatory evacuation warning, and fucking left...

Those people there... they CHOSE to fucking stay, what part of that are you not fucking understanding? There was no one there to help them because all the smart fucking people LEFT!!!

7 days is long enough, they could have walked to fucking Baton Rouge and been safe by then.

It's been nice arguing with everyone, but I've got to go for a few hours.

From what I saw, all the half brained asshole were too busy looting... :2 cents:

The poor people have no money to evacuate. 1/3 of New Orleans residents don't even own cars.

Evacuate to where on their own? Then you'd just have 200,000 poor people somewhere else with the same problem no food, water, or shelter.

At the end of the day, the powers that be just said "forget about 'em". That's what really happened. They became a non-priority issue.

Sad but that's the reality of the world we live in. The strong and monied survive while the poor and weak die.

without the money part...it's pretty much how nature works! ....


without the money part...of course...

I am sticking to the argument at hand, but like the rest of the right wingers you sit there and twist words and fabricate facts to fit your argument in which I've called you on several times.

No, Bush isnt the entire Federal Government, but he is the one in charge. Ever heard the term the buck stops here? Some republican congressmen are pointing the finger at this admin, even hardcore Newt is critical of Bush on how this was handled. There are fingers pointing to Bush from several directions, from the delay after the storm to cutting funding last year for the Corps of Engineers on those levees. And then there was his complete idiotic statement a few days ago that "no one anticipated the levees would break". People are becoming more aware of this bullshit and they're pissed. Then there's the wetlands issue. The wetlands serve as a natural buffer between the city and the Gulf Coast. It is a fact that the Clinton administration set some tough policies on wetlands, and it is a fact that the Bush administration repealed those policies, ordering federal agencies to stop protecting as many as 20 million acres of wetlands.

How you can sit there defending this shit is beyond me.

Jesus fucking christ I feel like I'm teaching a pre school class.

:1orglaugh

You are one of those who can never admit it when Bush fucks up.

At least admit you love him.

:1orglaugh

That's absolute bullshit.

Being president is like being head coach/general manager of a football team.

If the team wins you get all the credit and if they lose you have to take all of the blame.
Unfortunately this president gets all of the former but takes none of the latter, he's never once admitted to making a single mistake in office.

If someone else is the one who dropped the ball it doesn't matter, Bush is the one who filled the roster, he picked the players. If those people aren't capable it's his fault for hiring them, simple as that.

Right now there are 50 trucks filled with water and ice at Camp Shelby, MS that the people can't get to because the right person at FEMA won't pick up the phone and say "release the trucks"
So people in Mississippi are dying of dehydration because of the beauracracy within FEMA. Is that the mayor's or the governor's fault?

The local government's job is to prepare, which was done as much as possible with the resources that were available.
FEMA's job is to respond after a disaster, and they have failed miserably.

This whole situation reminds me of my favorite political cartoon, it's a picture of Bush sitting at his desk with a plate on the desk that says "What Buck?"

"The Feds have unprecedented authority and responsibility in situations like these since the Patriot Act that was forced down our throat. Their excuses are lame, their response is worse, and you idiots make me sick.
"

What the fuck you smoking?

The feds don't have any authority !

This is the problem with 90% of the public.

The feds can't just ride in and do what they want.

The state has 100% control over what happens during
a disaster until they give it to the feds it's federal law.

The National Guard isn't under control of the President
within US Borders unless a state gives the president the authority
over them and as of this yesterday the state of LA didn't give
control of the Guard to FEMA.

The Governor in LA still hasn't given over this authority to the feds.

The Mayor and State didn't want to evacuate as you can see here:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...cal_weather_37

Cambaby can be a right wing nut when he wants ... he likes bush's cock that's for sure

Nagin said slow response cost lives (singles out Gov, who asked for 24 hours to make a key decision)

Frustrated and grieving, Mayor Ray Nagin on Sunday again ripped the painfully slow response of state and federal authorities...

...Nagin singled out Gov. Kathleen Blanco for criticism, saying that the governor had asked for 24 hours to think over a decision when time was a luxury that no one, especially refugees, had. ?When the president and the governor got here, I said, 'Mr. President, Madame Governor, you two have to get in synch. If you don't, more people are going to die.? Blanco and Bush met privately at his insistence, Nagin said, after which Bush came out and told Nagin that he had given Blanco two options, and she requested a full day to decide. ?It would have been great if we could have walked off Air Force One and told the world we had it all worked out,? Nagin said. ?It didn't happen, and more people died.?...


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