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killerkay 08-18-2005 05:06 AM

Invade Iran?
 
Do you think the united states will invade Iran?

Doctor Dre 08-18-2005 05:17 AM

I think they will attack Iran ... maybe not "invade"

TheSwed 08-18-2005 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre
I think they will attack Iran ... maybe not "invade"

agree :pimp

BabeHunter 08-18-2005 05:19 AM

hopefully

killerkay 08-18-2005 05:19 AM

same thing, i think. i dont have a clue though

samsam 08-18-2005 05:31 AM

invading iran will be last straw time

id be amazed if we wernt in world war 3 if that happened

cool1 08-18-2005 05:32 AM

It could happen, and probably will

killerkay 08-18-2005 05:38 AM

oh well i mean somebody said we have a problem since iran is close to china and russia, reality is weather people want to believe it or not the USA is so far ahead military wise it wouldn't be close, the problem is trades, $$$$, thats the only reason the USA would be scared of China, Russia, etc

BRISK 08-18-2005 05:40 AM

Invade with what troops?

Unless the DoD recruits the Salvation Army, I don't think an invasion is likely until Iraq is stable enough to pull troops out of.

IMO, A tactical strike on potential nuke building facitilites is more likely in the short-term.

BlueDesignStudios 08-18-2005 05:45 AM

i doubt they'd invade or attack iran, it's more likely they'd liberate the people

BRISK 08-18-2005 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killerkay
oh well i mean somebody said we have a problem since iran is close to china and russia, reality is weather people want to believe it or not the USA is so far ahead military wise it wouldn't be close, the problem is trades, $$$$, thats the only reason the USA would be scared of China, Russia, etc

You think there's nothing to fear against fighting China and Russia?

killerkay 08-18-2005 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BRISK
You think there's nothing to fear against fighting China and Russia?

honestly im not to sure, they have nuclear weapons too but I think the USA is far enough ahead to take care of them. I think the biggest problem would be our trades with China though lol

BRISK 08-18-2005 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killerkay
honestly im not to sure, they have nuclear weapons too but I think the USA is far enough ahead to take care of them. I think the biggest problem would be our trades with China though lol

You think America can destroy all the nukes in China and Russia before they get a chance to launch them?

directfiesta 08-18-2005 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueDesignStudios
i doubt they'd invade or attack iran, it's more likely they'd liberate the people

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
Would they also bring down the big statue of the " bad guy " ????? :winkwink:

directfiesta 08-18-2005 06:48 AM

Russia, China Kick Off Military Exercises

crockett 08-18-2005 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre
I think they will attack Iran ... maybe not "invade"


Agreed, no need to invade but we will for sure attack them sometime in the next few years if they continue with their plans to aquire nukes.

pussyluver 08-18-2005 06:52 AM

Bunker busting bombs to destroy their nuke facilities? Now that would be popular.

pussyluver 08-18-2005 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRISK
Invade with what troops?

Unless the DoD recruits the Salvation Army, I don't think an invasion is likely until Iraq is stable enough to pull troops out of.

IMO, A tactical strike on potential nuke building facitilites is more likely in the short-term.

:1orglaugh LOL, that would be a hoot.

Drudge Headline Exclusive: Bush mobilizes Salvation Army as backup support in Iraq and on the new fronts in Iran and Korea.

How do you know that the US has not been secretly building troop stength and the numbers posted in the press are bogus? And that these troops have been trained in Urban warfare for when the war finds its way to the US???

I see recuiters stopping younger guys on the street and talking to 'em. They're about going door to door in the hoods. Let's give a meth user some real weapons!

xclusive 08-18-2005 07:02 AM

yes and or at the very least bomb

Lance69 08-18-2005 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killerkay
oh well i mean somebody said we have a problem since iran is close to china and russia, reality is weather people want to believe it or not the USA is so far ahead military wise it wouldn't be close, the problem is trades, $$$$, thats the only reason the USA would be scared of China, Russia, etc

Wow...I've been in the Navy for 9 years and if anyone actually thinks China isn't a threat militarily; is A: crazy or B: critically uninformed. I'm just hoping China becomes a stronger trade partner, and enjoys the lifestyle that a free market society can enjoy. That's our best bet with China.

PrintAdult-Sales 08-18-2005 07:43 AM

seems like we are the invaders lately we may need to give peace a shot, peace through mind control! :o)

slapass 08-18-2005 07:48 AM

when you think about this is how our government works. The Pres asks congress if he can invade "x country" and they do a poll/vote to see if they will do it.

My first thought on seeing the poll, was I am glad we do not do this to see what countries we invade. But we do.

:error

BRISK 08-18-2005 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Lance69
Wow...I've been in the Navy for 9 years and if anyone actually thinks China isn't a threat militarily; is A: crazy or B: critically uninformed. I'm just hoping China becomes a stronger trade partner, and enjoys the lifestyle that a free market society can enjoy. That's our best bet with China.

IMO, one of America's biggest weaknesses is people's false bravado towards military threats. Too many keyboard warriors acting like the Pentagon can just push a button and destroy any country it wants with no consequences, and everyone will be home in time to watch Leno.

The "nobody can touch us because we're so powerful" mentality is a dangerous delusion.

Those whom the Gods would destroy they first make all powerful.
Those whom the Gods would destroy they first make proud.

Froey Twe 08-18-2005 08:02 AM

as soon as we are done with Iraq

damonx 08-18-2005 08:14 AM

if they have no weapons and oil they will

wedouglas 08-18-2005 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killerkay
oh well i mean somebody said we have a problem since iran is close to china and russia, reality is weather people want to believe it or not the USA is so far ahead military wise it wouldn't be close, the problem is trades, $$$$, thats the only reason the USA would be scared of China, Russia, etc

Yeah, our military is way ahead of everyone. Public probably has no clue of the shit the have locked away in case they need it.

If we went to war with Iran, I don't think Russia would attack. China may, but you never know. Where were the allies of Iraq?

If you think any country WANTS to go to war with someone like the US, you are out of your mind. Kep in mind that the US has some pull in other nations. It wouldn't just be Iran/China vs. US. It would be Iran/China vs. US/many other countries.

Rochard 08-18-2005 08:39 AM

Well, we just happen to have all our troops in Iraq and they don't seem to be doing a whole heck of a lot right now. Maybe they could just waltz over and kick some more arse.

Will the US invade Iran? This is a difficult country.

Someone above mentioned that the US has a more advanced military force than both China and Russia. This may be true, but China's army is fucking huge.

China and Russia are both close to Iran. But if we got into a war with China their entire economy would fail........

mrgica 08-18-2005 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killerkay
honestly im not to sure, they have nuclear weapons too but I think the USA is far enough ahead to take care of them. I think the biggest problem would be our trades with China though lol

OMG! do you even have any brain man?
"take care of them"?
What do you think this is? walker texas ranger shit or superman, maybe batman would take care of them...if not, then BLADE the day walker will take care of them...

Do you even know what you are talking about? war against military super powers like russia and china...war against over 1,500,000,000 people, the question is does USA even have enough with bullets :1orglaugh

"take care of them" :1orglaugh :pimp

BRISK 08-18-2005 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RocHard
if we got into a war with China their entire economy would fail

as would America's economy.

Giorgio_Xo 08-18-2005 08:50 AM

Iran would hand our asses to us. Unless we are prepare to mow down endless waves of rabid teenagers on TV, the U.S. cannot hope to win a protracted conflict. Iran sent 100,000s of lightly armed children against the Iraqi army for almost a decade. Iran has the will to win at all costs, we don't.

Paraskass 08-18-2005 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDesignStudios
i doubt they'd invade or attack iran, it's more likely they'd liberate the people

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Giorgio_Xo 08-18-2005 08:57 AM

No war is about ideology or religion. All wars are either about nationalism (self-determination) or the arrogant use of power. That was why we lost Vietnam War. The North Vietmaneses were fighting for their country, the U.S. was fighting the spectre of Soviet Russia.

Radik 08-18-2005 09:35 AM

I'm now worried about china.. I heard some good news the other day the russians basicly said north korea had "no capable nuclear devices".

China will pwn us all tho.

Buzz 08-18-2005 09:57 AM

Chinese has the biggest army.
They are #1 trade partner for USA

Russia is the 2nd largest oil exporter in the world
Russian weapons (like tanks, aircrafts, anti-aircraft defence systems, even assault rifles) are the best in the world, and it's being exported to Iran too.

Both has nukes.

I bet the joint action of these 2 countries can ruin States in 2 weeks w/o a single shot

killerkay 08-18-2005 10:02 AM

yea yea yea thats pretty funny somebody said iran would hand the U.S.A it's ass, ha

Lance69 08-18-2005 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz
They are #1 trade partner for USA

Critically uninformed :2 cents:

killerkay 08-18-2005 10:09 AM

yeah really aint the japanese our number 1 trade partner?

Lance69 08-18-2005 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killerkay
yeah really aint the japanese our number 1 trade partner?

More trade goes over the Ambasador Bridge between Windsor and Detroit than all trade to Japan.

Radik 08-18-2005 10:14 AM

Yeah we export alot of shit to the u.s.

mrkris 08-18-2005 12:23 PM

Invading the area will only cause more problems. The more people we piss off, the higher the terror alert ...

Lee 08-18-2005 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killerkay
yea yea yea thats pretty funny somebody said iran would hand the U.S.A it's ass, ha

Iran would make Vietnam look like a stroll in the park.

Pleasurepays 08-18-2005 01:39 PM

Why would anyone invade Iran? It's much easier to bomb nuclear facilities and set them back another 10-20 years and not risk a single life. Most likely, Isreal will do it since they are the most threatened and have nothing to lose in the Arab world anyway.
:2 cents:

Rinaldo 08-18-2005 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrgica
OMG! do you even have any brain man?
"take care of them"?
What do you think this is? walker texas ranger shit or superman, maybe batman would take care of them...if not, then BLADE the day walker will take care of them...

Do you even know what you are talking about? war against military super powers like russia and china...war against over 1,500,000,000 people, the question is does USA even have enough with bullets :1orglaugh

"take care of them" :1orglaugh :pimp


Do you honestly beleive they will all fight?
What nation has 100% of it's people in their military?
First of all, you're not taking military strength into account, let's assume for a second that all of china fights the us' 2 million military, now... how the fuck are 1.5 billion people going to make it here to fight?

You have to mobilize all those people... our submarines would wipe out 80% of their ships, and there isn't enough fuel and planes to fly 1.5 billion people here...

Not being a dick, but please don't make fun of someone's post if you're is so easy to pick apart as well

mrgica 08-18-2005 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rinaldo
Do you honestly beleive they will all fight?
What nation has 100% of it's people in their military?
First of all, you're not taking military strength into account, let's assume for a second that all of china fights the us' 2 million military, now... how the fuck are 1.5 billion people going to make it here to fight?

You have to mobilize all those people... our submarines would wipe out 80% of their ships, and there isn't enough fuel and planes to fly 1.5 billion people here...

Not being a dick, but please don't make fun of someone's post if you're is so easy to pick apart as well


I was talking about china and russia together, because in the post I quoted the guy was talking about "taking care of" those two counties, but relax Im not an anti-american, I rather see USA rule then china or russia or iran or iraq....etc..

Here is some fact to chew on:

China Population: 1,306,000,000 people
Russia Population: 143,500,000 people

China's military manpower:
Availability: 18-49 years: 342,956,265 (2005 est.)
Fit for military service: 18-49 years: 281,240,272 (2005 est.)
REACHING military age annually: 13,186,433 (2005 est.)
Military expenditures - dollar figure: $67.49 billion (2004)
Military branches:
People's Liberation Army (PLA): Ground Forces, Navy (includes marines and naval aviation), Air Force (includes Airborne Forces), and II Artillery Corps (strategic missile force); People's Armed Police Force (internal security troops considered to be an adjunct to the PLA); Militia (2003)


Russia's military manpower:
Availability: 18-49 years: 35,247,049 (2005 est.)
Fit for military service: 21,049,651 (2005 est.)
Reaching military age annually: 1,286,069 (2005 est.)
Military expenditures - dollar figure: Not known
Military branches:
Ground Forces (SV), Navy (VMF), Air Forces (VVS); Airborne Troops (VDV), Strategic Rocket Troops (RVSN), and Space Troops (KV) are independent "combat arms," not subordinate to any of the three branches


Where is Rambo 3 when you need him?

All Im trying to say is don't underestimate countries (military) that you know so little about, its ridiculous.

dready 08-18-2005 02:52 PM

After that Saudi Arabia and then Egypt for the kill.

mrgica 08-18-2005 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dready
After that Saudi Arabia and then Egypt for the kill.

are u serious?

dready 08-18-2005 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrgica
are u serious?

From a presentation given by Rand Corp. analyst Laurent Murawiec on July 10, 2002, to the Defense Policy Board:

Titled "Grand strategy for the Middle East":
* Iraq is the tactical pivot
* Saudi Arabia the strategic pivot
* Egypt the prize

Key to the discussion was that it described Saudi Arabia as "the kernel of evil, the prime mover, the most dangerous opponent" in the Middle East.

Breakyourself 08-18-2005 03:04 PM

they have oil?

Mr. Soul 08-18-2005 03:21 PM

Must we fight? I say let commies be commies, let Muslims be Muslims, let Christian capitalists be Christian capitalists. Unless they're going to attack us, I say leave them alone. Lost too many friends and relatives to war already.

PussyTeenies 08-18-2005 04:57 PM

i think they will attack it ... or as politics say invade :P

but after that china/russia/australia/afrika hell ... it's becoming Heil Bush in 4 years time :Oh crap


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