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Originally Posted by mrgica

I was talking about china and russia together, because in the post I quoted the guy was talking about "taking care of" those two counties, but relax Im not an anti-american, I rather see USA rule then china or russia or iran or iraq....etc..

Here is some fact to chew on:

China Population: 1,306,000,000 people
Russia Population: 143,500,000 people

China's military manpower:
Availability: 18-49 years: 342,956,265 (2005 est.)
Fit for military service: 18-49 years: 281,240,272 (2005 est.)
REACHING military age annually: 13,186,433 (2005 est.)
Military expenditures - dollar figure: $67.49 billion (2004)
Military branches:
People's Liberation Army (PLA): Ground Forces, Navy (includes marines and naval aviation), Air Force (includes Airborne Forces), and II Artillery Corps (strategic missile force); People's Armed Police Force (internal security troops considered to be an adjunct to the PLA); Militia (2003)

Russia's military manpower:
Availability: 18-49 years: 35,247,049 (2005 est.)
Fit for military service: 21,049,651 (2005 est.)
Reaching military age annually: 1,286,069 (2005 est.)
Military expenditures - dollar figure: Not known
Military branches:
Ground Forces (SV), Navy (VMF), Air Forces (VVS); Airborne Troops (VDV), Strategic Rocket Troops (RVSN), and Space Troops (KV) are independent "combat arms," not subordinate to any of the three branches

Where is Rambo 3 when you need him?

All Im trying to say is don't underestimate countries (military) that you know so little about, its ridiculous.

Russia could not take out 15,000 guys armed with nothing more than RPG's and AK-47s in Chechnya in the first war and eventually surrendered to them and gave them their independence. Russia had tanks, planes, helicopters w/missiles/guns, artillery and so on and still got taken apart peice by piece. The second war started and they said it would take 2 weeks and they are still fighting many years later after they threw well over 100,000 troops, air power, tanks, artillery etc etc etc at what they estimated to be arond 10,000 "rebels".

The only way they made any headway at all was by indescriminately bombing civilian cities and targets. Grozny and other cities were completely leveled and they still got their asses kicked.

Russia was never a threat through the cold war years. Anyone that has spent considerable time in Russia after the collapse knows this. China has a smaller military than Russia does i believe and i doubt thier technology is any better than the SCUDS that were falling over and exploding on their own during Desert Storm.

Sorry... Russia and China are not military threats in todays world. Putting on an air show demonstrating a next generation fighter plane is not the same as having 1000's of them in active service with pilots training day in and day out every day to fight with them and the ability to maintain and replace them.

:2 cents: