Dialer payout vs Consumer rate...
 

Can anyone tell me what consumer rates the 'big' dialer companies use?

Just being curious:glugglug

Just the consumer rate and the payout will do...
Maybe nice to know if they push their own content...

Anyone... or is it that bad?

The maximum payout I can find is $1,10 with a $8,- consumer rate?

OK here is one:

Dialerking: Consumer rate $8,00 payout $1,00 12,5%...

huh?

if you need some lines fixed in the Congo maybe I can help you?

Just wondering why nobody is responding ;)

And Congo probably will payout $0,03 out of $16,00

There are many companies taking cuts off of dialer revenue which is why the consumer to webmaster rates vary so much...

let's not forget about the phone companies, etc... :)

I tried looking for the exact same info a couple weeks back. Practically every dialer company I taked to, was quite willing to give me a spreadsheet with the amounts they paid. I was only able to find 2 companies (both European) that listed the amount charged to the user.

http://www.goodthinxx.com/
http://www.ebs-ag.de/

IBill is also launching a dialer through a partnership with a dutch company called KPN Switchpoint. When I got the info from iBill a couple weeks back they had a list of payouts and customer-rates of a dozen or so countries.

Most dialer companies I've talked to seem not to want anyone to know how much the customer is being charged.

I can tell you what Telcoweb is charging !
Not sure about all the others, i have heard
that DK is charging consumers about $8

For Telcoweb the rates do change depending
on which country, none are over $2.99 i believe.

VIP if you want more info contact me on
ICQ #121258311

Christ. Is tonight dialer night?

http://www.conversioncash.com

Look at our dialer rates...and then look at what we pay.

Why not a simple statement from the companies...

I know about the telco's are making money out of this but they do not make 80%!

Everybody is talking about the highest payout, realy nobody seems to care what they have to sell. Even the companies and resellers do not know the consumer rates!

VIP,

I used to work in the telecommunications industry. Nothing to do with dialers.

But in my experience, almost anything to do with telephone calls - people do not know what the rates are. I mean people that work there. They may know about specials and things like that, but the real rates the consumers pay - forget about it. Ask a cable or telco provider how much it will cost after FCC fees. They lie and cheat on their rates. The biggest scammers out there are phone companies.

This is changing to some extent. I too have tried to find out info on dialers. You will only hear my dialer is better than your dialer and that kind of stuff. Stay away from anyone like that has always been my mantra.

my

:2 cents:

Isn't it strange that all affiliates working with CC sign-ups know what the consumer gets for what price and that they do not seem to care when it comes to dialers...

E.G.: In Holland the consumer rate is max. Euro 0.70 (app. $0.62) per minute (by law) still the kickback is 0.44 Euro

alot of people call the phone company and it gets taken off their bill. The phone company will inform you that the company who charged you can pursue the matter legally but that the phone company doesn't have to collect for them.

But it still is not $6,- for the billing now is it?:(

With dialers the only one that doesn't get fucked is the owner.

The webmaster gets fucked by getting paid shit.
12% at dialerass
what a joke
and the surfer gets fucked but that's obvious with dialers that charge over $2/min

VIP, a good chunk of change gets eaten up by "chargebacks", aka uncollectibles.

The rate offered by the reseller/network factors this into it - if they get 50% of the caller cost per minute, but have 75% of customers not pay them, they can only pay out 12.5%, for eg.

Here are some eg rates for you:

UK £1.50
German 3.63 DM
Australia AUD 5.45
Belgium BEF 45
Canada CAN$ 4.99
Italy ITL 2945
Netherlands NGL 1.5
Spain PTS 152
Sweden SWK 20
Switzerland SFR 4.23

There are a whole load of factors involved in getting from caller cost, to webmaster rate.

Richard.

Actually.. you'll find that the primary factor in u.s. dialer routes is chargebacks...

I've seen up to 65% chargeback rates on u.s. dialer calls... and that is for honest dialers...not the kind that dial up automatically late at night.

devildialer uses telco and as was said by hunter have been informed that the cost to the surfer is under 3. $ usd /per min

:2 cents:

I still think $3,- is high!:(