I wish I lived in canada
 

My daugther needs some pretty serious medical attention and insurance wont cover it

Canada seems good.

canada is good.

take her out back.. . :BangBang: :ak47: :feels-hot :glugglug :yinyang :small-smi


SORRY SICK JOKE I HOPE SHE IS OK ! :thumbsup

i don't know what kind of shitty insurance you have, but my $100 a month shit covers anything and everything possible

What kind of treatment wouldn't insurance cover for a baby?

here in FL is 600.00 a month with 5,000 deductible and a 80/20 pay......

I am sure that you can get financial assitance through the government for your baby

Canada is good with the fact that the government pays medical expenses. The problem is more and more people are dying waiting for treatment because the government doesn't have the $ to provide proper medical care.

I hope your girl gets the treatment she needs, good luck

that's bullshit.

you are eating what the media is feeding you.

sure, people wait a year or more for a hip replacement and shit, but if you need something vital, you will not wait.

wtf? :Oh crap

it is a coesmetic surgery that I have to get done
no insurance will cover it

jesus fucking christ

we pay $325 together for 2 of us per month
$2500 deductible hospital
$10/15/20 perscriptions
$20 office visits

stupid, just like canada covers anything. If it's reasonable, there will be insurance to cover it.

I'm not going to get into detials with what is wrong with her as I dont feel it is something for the GP to know about
but it is cosmetic and it as to be done
and insurance wont cover it.
That simple.

I posted to vent. Thats it. Stop ridding me bro

On the sixth day God turned to Archangel Gabriel and said: "Today I am going to create a land called Canada, it will be a land of outstanding natural beauty. It shall have tall majestic mountains full of mountain goats and eagles, beautiful sparkling lakes bountiful with bass and trout, forests full of elk and moose, high cliffs over-looking sandy beaches with an abundance of sea life, and rivers stocked with salmon."

God continued, "I shall make the land rich in oil and resources so as to make the inhabitants prosper, I shall call these inhabitants Canadians, and they shall be known as the most friendly people on the earth."

"But Lord," asked Gabriel, "don't you think you are being too generous to these Canadians?"

"Not really," replied God, "just wait and see the neighbours I am going to give them."

First you say its $100 a month, then $350 a month... which is it?

Not really ... if you are dying, and they can't do it here ... they sent you to the USA and they pay the bill .

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Hey Chris, I hear where you're coming from. People have no clue how bad insurance companies will fuck you over, given the chance, until they themselves are fucked over.

Check into grants / programs and such. If it is truly purely cosmetic, I doubt you'll have luck, but if the problem requires any sort of special care and is disabling in any sense you should be able to find something.

If this will truly make her happy for the rest of her life, pay the downpayment the hospital / dr. wants, work out a payment plan and have it done. Worst case, if you can't afford it later one, file for bankruptcy.

Good luck.

I'll never understand why the US doesn't move to a free health care system for the sake of their citizens.

Not entirely true.

A friend of mine had a massive heart attack just over a year ago. He was lucky. He wasn't feeling good and he went to emergency where he literally dropped dead on the floor. They were able to resucitate and treat him.

However, he had to wait over 6 months to see a cardiologist for a followup appointment once he was released from the hospital.

I'm not saying if someone needed a life saving operation today they wouldn't get it, but this guy was an extreme case and couldn't get in to see a specialist for half a year? That's ridiculous.

Not to mention we just spent millions on a new wing to our hospital out here, but can't find the doctors to man it. It's SO bad in a city of 50,000 people, we only have two pediatricians. ANY woman giving birth that is suspected to have problems during childbirth must drive 2 hours away to be given proper treatment. It's happened a couple of times that patients have been airlifted to another hospital because of unsuspected complications.

Then there's the case of the guy who's hand was nearly severed but waited in our emergency room for 2 and a half days before being treated.

My wife used to work in health care, so she's seen firsthand how our health system is stretched to its limit.

Don't you guys have medicare for broke people?. Problem with canada is the waitlists; sure it's cheap health care but you die waiting for it.

I'm sorry to hear about your daughter, it's very sad when there's something wrong with one of your babies. You want them to have a perfect life.

Even Canada doesn't cover procedures they consider 'cosmetic' though. For example, all three of my children were born via caesarean section. With my third baby, the interior incision came open, leaving be with a 2 inch wide 'divot' under my skin right above my exterior scar. Eventhough it is the result of a life-saving operation covered by them, the corrective procedure is considered 'cosmetic' and I am stuck with the cost of repairing the doctor's damage.

Oh, and you wait a really long time to see a specialist or have medical imaging testing done here. Canada is awesome and I wouldn't live anywhere else in the world, but it isn't the medical Promise Land like some people think.

Move to Canada Chris :)

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My mother was brought in by ambulance at 10:00PM . They sedated her with morphine, called a whole heart surgery team and they were working on her at 11:15 PM... That is six months ago and she today is alive...

COST: covered by the gov and our taxes .

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sorry to hear about the insurance :Oh crap

usually it's about 2 to 3 months wait the 1st time you visit any specialist (if you tell the secretary your condition is really bad she could squeeze you in earlier) cos specialists need to spend more time with you the 1st time around then on to follow-up it gets much better. It's the same kinda wait to see a specialist in U.S. too if it's a well-reputed doctor :(

Canada has an amazing health system.....sure you don't pay (comes out of your income)..but oh boy you gotta wait for it!!! For non-critical things, fine!! But when it gets to the point where emergency rooms in hospitals are overcrowded with only ONE doctor for hundreds of people.........something's wrong.....doctors are running away to the states cuz they get paid more over there.......what are you left with :throwup

LOL Funny

My older sister had triplets and medical expenses for sugeries and the babies 3 months stay at the hospital and many critical surgeries to the older girl total amount she owes the hospital, 2 million dollars. She did not have to pay a dime of it. U.S is great too, just got to know how to use the system. 2cents

The Canadian Health Care System saved my dads life. Didn't cost him a penny. I'm greatful for what we have.

Chris, sorry to hear about that. Honestly, in your case, if private insurance won't cover it, I have a huge doubt that a public healthcare system, such as the Canadian, will do anything about it. I, too, have experienced an overloaded, understaffed public healthcare system, so I know for a fact that, unless you're dying, they'll make you wait a long time and certain treatmens they'll tell you to get privately, because the public system doesn't cover them.

Shemp, way to liven up the thread. :thumbsup

Shouldn't of had sex mang. Don't you know what porn is REALLY for? Its a huge conspiracy by the govt to stop reproduction...

Also wanted to add that our free health care system just caused alot of problems in my life. They fucked my hand/wrist up permanently... It may only be a limb and not as serious as other peoples problems but having limited use of a wrist/hand for a 23year old IS a big deal. Plus the fact that it should have been treated properly from day one, 5 weeks later im still in a cast with a hand turning funny colors from the poor circulation. Not to mention I can't feel my fingers, even if i could use em.

This is the absolute worst summer of my life, I've had a cast, its been record heat the whole summer so far.

My experience in the hospital was a joke, no one knows whats going on. It was suprisingly un-organized & I had to fill out some forms 6 times within 3 hours. They kept loosing them, and each time the current person blamed the last person with the files.

if your in ottawa it was @ that hospital. I just say if, cuz they're many that could be in the same boat.

It's just like all the new cancer prevention machines we have. The government refuses to use them, because they cost to much to run. This machine cab detect cancer before its a threat, but nooo it cost's to much. It's just a joke, why'd we even spend 3million on it then? so it can sit for 2 years....

We just had (march) petitions going around because we needed 2million signatures for the cause of getting equal cancer treatment nation wide. I'm not sure how it came out but I went around & got like 300 signatures. That treatment would have included those machines, to detect it & save people before it was too late.

Something just really needs to be done about it. You can go into the ER, as i have to weekly now just to see my specialist's (at least i get to see one tho) but the wait is still hours, WITH an appoinment.

Stop talking out of your ass. I have family and friends that work at hospitals and they see people dying all the time waitng for cancer treatments or heart surgery. I just had a friend brought to a hospital in an ambulance because she was in a boating accident. She had to wait 28 hours to see a doctor and then spent 4 days in a coma because she had bleeding on the brain.
Yep...that's the media feeding me :321GFY

Not always. You may end up dying just waiting for the paperwork to go through.

Than being in Canada wouldn't help you too much either.

:1orglaugh Had a good laugh over that one

well if you like Canada just move there

There will be no border by the year 2010

It's part of a plan to "integrate the north american hemishphere"
http://www.eagleforum.org/column/200.../05-07-13.html

While the Canadians are wasting their time debating about fags getting married and socialized medicine - Martin is in Texas selling Canada to the highest bidder http://www.asc-hsa.org/article.php3?id_article=271

My buddy had a big bump on his nose (he was born with it), the Canadian gov. gave him a free nose job.

Not to mention the flood of crappy immigrants! :(

Medicare isn't everything it's built up to be here. The best care is still private care IMO. Waiting lists are long, and Medicare doesn't cover cosmetic surgery. So even if the doctor screws up and you need cosmetics to fix the problems, you're left with the bill. Also good luck on trying to sue for it, cause unlike the USA you can't sue for legal fees here, and the pay outs aren't as high. So in the end it still costs you. There are other great reasons for living in Canada, and I wouldn't live anywhere else, but Medicare isn't the "save all" people think it is.

It sounds like you frenchies are getting screwed, I have heard nothing but praise about the system from people I know who have had to use it.

True, true. Canada isn't nearly as "sue-friendly" as you guys in the south, a friend-of-a-friend lost an unborn baby during delivery due to negligence and got $70K ... a total travesty. The wife can never reproduce and you can imagine the mental anguish - $70K.

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getting $70k doesn't necessarily mean unfair.. $70k could very well be better than a $0 minus lawyers/court cost in lost battle. lawsuits can be pretty unique under circumtances cos i know some friends and family who won few millions in compensation too. $70k makes me think losing the unborn baby during delivery may not have been totally ALL due to "negligence".. your friend-of-a-friend is not telling the whole story :2 cents:

Wait until you get cancer or some other illness that will cost a huge amount of money over an extended period of time. I suspect you'll be in for a big surprise.

haha, that's a good one.

Sorry to hear about your daughter Chris.

I love Canada. But really, our health care isn't free anymore. We pay a lot of taxes for a lot of different health related things. In Ontario, the new provincial government is even working to further tax individuals each pay period for health care related expenses.

Personally, while I think that it's great that we have "free" health care for everyone, the only people who really benefit from it are people who don't work. They don't have to pay the taxes that in turn pay for our health care.

In the states, you can choose to buy comprehensive insurance and get covered for just about everything. You get to select the coverage that's right for you and pay for it.

For me, Canada is great for a lot of reasons, but health care (especially in Ontario) isn't one of them. I really wish that they'd change it, but people don't often look beyond the surface during an election.

im sure WOJ is waiting for this post for the 50th spot :1orglaugh