Hosting companies! You're FUCKED!!!!
 

Webmasters better start looking for a "back up" host.

If 2257 comes down as hard as some think then a lot of webmasters are going to bail from their host and some host will have to close.

Why?

I was working with some ideas to comply with 2257 and almost nothing I did seemed worth doing. If I get rid of thumbs then I will be paying about 75% less for bandwidth. Guess who loses on that deal. But my banners will most likely suck so how will I make enough money to keep paying for hosting even with less bandwidth? Also if I go full softcore with thumbs that link to softcore galleries and softcore tours then non-adult companies don't have much grounds to not host me. Guess what; non-adult hosting is too too too cheap if I can get it.

Conversions mostly likely will drop IMHO.
Yes there will be less hardcore for free but I do think that hardcore pictures hook the surfer and eventually gets the sign up. Getting hooked on softcore seems like a long shot.

Super cheap MoFo's will never sign up no matter what we show but they do provide a steady stream of traffic to trade. These cheapos may not surf as much if they only see softcore. Moderate cheapos will surf less too so less chance for them to finally get to the site that converts them.

I can hear the arguments about that already but consider that the reason hardcore was posted in the first place was to make more people surf the site and surf for longer.

I just don't see people surfing my interracial site for very long when all they see is interracial couples hugging when they can go to the Hun and get hardcore.

I'm just not seeing how sponsors with 1000's of hosted galleries are going to look at the galleries and match the models back up to their documents and get all the 2257 info in place. They got the same model working with four photographers and they need to match the shoot to the photographer if they actually post the correct custodian of records. Plus some sponsors don't even have this info(anymore if ever) and photographers may not give a shit or even be alive to provide the info.
I suspect a lot of galleries will simply be pulled.

Click this link: http://gallery.1000facials.com/baby/4/index.htm

Hmmmmmmm!! Were conversions not worth the bandwidth or did they look at 2257 and just said fuck it.

Back to traffic trading: Surfers are not going to suffer thru blind links and circle jerks to get more softcore.


There will finally be a reason again to go to the porn video store and rent some shit for $1.95...and copy it. :1orglaugh

DAMN that must be sucks :P

www.zentek-international.com for a quality Hong Kong-based solution. Anything goes, except for spam and CP of course.

Blacmonsters.... you know that Ashcroft isn't the DA anymore right?

You are correct. Just pack up and leave.

You make it sound like web hosts only host TGPs. There's more the adult biz than TGP....

That doesn't really matter because what he started can continue and most likely will continue since his party likes these ideas.

Yeah, and what besides TGPs burn enough bandwidth for the host to pay bills...please don't say galleries; they get it from the TGP.
A hand full of link sites burn BW; but come on...most bandwidth is burned by webpages with free images or video and those are the ones to be affected.

tgps and galleries are the only way to make money :1orglaugh and hosts have no other clientel

Sooner or later they will start loosing money, and that has nothing to do with 2257;

Higher and cheaper internet speeds, better technology and better server software which anyone with a little computer interest can figure out, will result in companies (and porn webmasters) moving toward own hosting.

www is still in stoneage :winkwink:

Until you are digging the holes in your front yard to install the line yourself you will be at the mercy of the telecom companies.

As long as the telecom companies are running the show there will be no 'self-hosting' on the scale that adult bandwidth can burn through.

hmmm, I don't think any of our clients do TGP

Digging holes is not the future. Space man, space :)

Btw, private customers are already offered 1GB lines in Sweden for prices as low as 120-150$ per month. Same in Japan.

Dirty Dane, can you hit me up on icq? 7583011. Thanks

Maybe thumb TGP's, will use text links, the traffic will be the same, there wont be as much free porn, we will all make more money?

Hi dirty dane could you also hit me up on 143561781 thanks

1995 is coming back. I can taste it.

its all over people please return to your normal lives!

yes, please quit the business.

for somebody who registered here in 2002, you are a dumbass.

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man, you have one ugly sig! :1orglaugh

He has some points, as a lot of people will be lowering their hosting bills in the next few months. But this is not all doom and gloom!

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:Oh crap :(

i've submitted 5 tgp galleries in my life

surfers will do whatever the fuck you tell them to. they dont have choices

May you're the dumbass that doesn't know the meaning of "if".
I did say "IF 2257 comes down as has as some think".

May be "IF" being the first fucking word in the explanation was too much for you to handle logically.

There is more to adult biz than TGP.

There's paysites, link lists, freesites, search engine sites, other various types of sites, Dude, tgp is small in comparison to how many other sites there are out there. Admitdly, yes TGPs burn the most bandwidth per site (usually) but there are many clients burning just as much if not more doing oher things. There's always text based tgps as well. Lots of people burned mega bandwidth with them. Your "the sky is falling" demeanor about losing hardcore thumbs is rediculous. Have you ever actually ran a TGP before? Text is more productive. Sure thumbs generate more "clicks" but is it as productive as text clicks? NO. Most thumb tgp's send their traffic away on the first click anyways and only get back the same quality of traffic. Poeple with straight up text based TGPs do damn well.. now back to the loss of ahrdcore, big deal. If you know how to sell a product (which msot TGPers don't and simply rely on hardcore freebies to chance the sale) you would realize that just simple text like "Like this girl? She's hot isn't she?! Click Here to join and see the living crap fucked out of her in explicit ahrdcore videos and pictures!"

Surfers do know how to read you know..

Oh, and for those thinking that a cropped softcore thumb is fine, think again, if it used to be en explicit photo before being cropped, it's still subject to 2257.

Guys the sky is not falling, just evolve and make the best of it.

Sure it's a pain in the ass and a major invasion or rights and privacies but in the long run will weed out all the chicken little's and leave more room for people who know what they are doing.

Isn't porn illegal in Hong-kong ?

Nope.

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Good hosts do BOTH mainstream and adult in my opinion. Like webair

I have been MIA this past month, I come back and there's all this talk about 2257 shit, which I don't know jack about. :(

What does our hosting company have to do to comply with new 2257 rules? Does anyone have links to good posts and reading material, specifically for hosting companies?

I thought new 2257 regs only have to do with content providers and TGPs, etc. If I understand, it is only my customers that need be worried and liable, not myself, correct?

Should I consider buying some rack space in offshore data centers for my adult industry customers?

I'm sure others will fill you in on the details, but hit me up if you're considering getting some space at the Hong Kong DC. I know the guy.

This is getting boring...

I'm not one wihth that guy.

Absolutely nothing. GFY attorneys are very good in speculation, but we have no additional responsibilities as a result of 2257.

Thanks dude!

Also, found proof of that too:

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