Investing 100k into the web - What would you do?
 

I have bought lots of sites but they are all smaller. Is there a way to place 100k at one shot and not buy some crap cirlce jerk TGP? Do the bigger sites have network of buyers that i am not privy too? I think I lack the skills for a paysite but maybe that is the next step. Otherwise it is more office/wharehouse.

Traffic, traffic, traffic.


One could own and control a ton of traffic for that kinda money as a one time inventment.

buy some domains from me and spend the rest on beer

I'm pretty sure he has traffic under control. Have you not seen his sites "around"? :1orglaugh

Traffic is nice, but from where? Too vague of an answer.

Lets say you spend $25k of it on a hardcore movie paysite that you build, complete with 40 to 50 good quality exclusive scenes.

Obviously traffic is step two. But from where? SE traffic is obviously the most desired. But who sells it, what GFYers have had good personal experiences working with traffic-merchants, etc?

That's what I'd be curious to hear as I've always generated traffic myself via TGPs or other trades. But for the next step up on the food chain, those that purchase quality SE traffic, where do you go?

Doubt one could ever have to much traffic.

I'd buy some semi-exclusive content, and several TGPs. Have the TGPs feed into each other and the paysite, then bring in a bunch of outside traffic from other TGPs, hardlinks, and search engines.

To add to that then.... I would buy or develop paysites that fit the HUGE amount of traffic he has and open them without an affiliate program. If he has the traffic already, then learning to profit from in on both ends would be great.

id be interested in hiring someone that knew about generating tgp/buying gallery traffic.

hit me up if you want to work on an hourly basis on this project.

I have bought traffic from every source I could find. Traffic is awesome, and I buy every month. I was thinking more along the lines of buying a big tgp. Or a free site. Something that had bookmarkers and real surfers. My "other" traffic sources are awesome but I do not have the knack of making them stick. I suppose with that money I could push a TGP to the size I wanted. Just buy a domain and feed the shit out of it for a couple of years.

Yeah, I guess thats what I was meaning. Own the traffic as in controling it on a number of tgps. I have talked with DamageX and others about it. Most all agree however, that its better to own a bunch of smaller tgps/mgps like 200k a day sites then one big one well usless that one big one as the Hun or something. haha!

In my mind it all goes back to traffic and the ownership of that traffic. If a car does not have gas, it wont run. They are buying it somewhere ya know. :)

Buying a 100k in traffic in a short period of time would be folly. The best traffic brokers sell stuff that is untested for a price that matches the benz payment that month. Or put your ad up late, pull the ad, run the same ad over you. And that is the big guys. The little guys are slow to deliver and can do every trick in the world. No way to keep an eye on that many buys. imo.

Got an icq or contact info on damageX? same as ************?

funny, everybody so far went to the tgp end of the map. When I read "What would you do with 100k on the web"... I go a completely different direction.

Best wishes to ya Slapass, you're a smart guy - I'm sure you'll figure it out.

Which way do you go?

slapass, with your se rankings, I think you could do fairly well with your sites as far as tgp/mgp. Maybe partner up with someone and have some niche paysites. You can get that traffic going to them with your se listings, have your partner be someone familiar with paysites and the backend of them etc.

Put your 100K into an investment....... :2 cents: Use the net, especially adult as a gamble.

I would wait untill the 2257 kicks in and this becomes a sellers market. Right now it is still a buyers market.

i would donate to the buy sasha some titties fund (contact me for paypal info)







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Really looking for ideas. Of course, I have stuff I am doing. I was very tempted by the paysite that just sold. Something like that would be a good fit. Something niche that I could drive traffic. I have some projects to create bookmarkers. So just looking at doing it quicker with a decent aquisition or a nice direction.

What about buying a great type-in domain? If it has a good mass of typeins it should retain its value and make money over a relatively short term (under 2 years).
WG

sneezy did you confuse buyer and seller in that post?

And dude she does not need tits. She is doing fine.

Try and do this. Much harder then it sounds. I do have typein traffic now. I have been on a buying spree.

[QUOTE=slapass]sneezy did you confuse buyer and seller in that post?

you think? how?

2257 kicks in and lots of stuff will be for sale. This is commonly known as a "buyers market". The buyers can make a better deal.

at this moment there are more buyers than sellers on the market. If 2257 kicks in this might convert to more sellers than (qualified) buyers lol

I'd say Slapass has paid off many times more than what you bought it from me at. :thumbsup

If anybody has the right formula to make a site profitable, it's you. :pimp

we are on the same page..

that being said. I would suggest wait a little bit.

Perhaps this may interest you:
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I wont reply in this or the other thread but if you are interested please email me. The address is in my profile.

Sherm, i had great stuff to work with. And have I ever said thank you? I love my life and I really owe the first step to you.

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I'm not going to pretend I have all the answers here, but If I had 100,000 to spend in the market, I know what I would look at first.

I'll give it to you in private in exchange for a thank you once your done.

Nothing earth shaking, but just a trend I think I found. Its going to be a while before I'm competing on that scale, so I dont lose anything.

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Dude... why would you spend 100K in the adult web without innovating?

Spend the money either making something needed but not done yet or buy real estate with it that is in foreclosure. Then flip it for something bigger and not have to pay taxes on the gain.. keep going until it is worth 1 million (with an initial investment of 100K it won't be very long) and then move into larger chunks of real estate.

buy good mainstream forums.

u lucky americans with ur non taxable flipping income "if bought a similar or bigger property within 6 months" jerks :winkwink:
i admit, im jealous for that "loophole"

invest in mainstream.

5 people have innovated and the rest of us copied so what are the odds i am going to innovate?

Shoot niche content, make video deals to license DVD & PPV, build several niche sites and start a small program. Great content pays for itself. Traffic is sometimes unpredictible.

Just a heads up but why be on adult webmaster board if you think all the good shit is somewhere else?? There are real estate boards and mainstream boards.

I thought the same thing as I read that, "no shit".

If I could innovate I wouldn't be reading this thread... :1orglaugh

great minks mako great minds...

:winkwink:

Let's do some math based on your idea:

You've got: $100k

You need: Five niche sites, affiliate program, promotional tools, hosting, etc.

Major costs: (all just guesses, feel free to rip them up)

-Building of the sites: Do it yourself? If not, say $5k.

-Creation of all promotional material (20 x hosted tgp galleries, banners, other shit for each site, as well as a bunch of 30-second tgp/main tour-friendly movie trailers from your best content) I'll guess $3k.

-License affiliate software: Just going to use CCBill crap? If not, say $5k.

-Shoot 50 exclusive niche scenes (10 scenes per site) and license another 300 DVD/home-shot scenes (60 scenes per site). Avg licensed bulk scene = $25 per scene. Avg semi-exclusive private shoot scene = $500/ea.? Never had one shot myself, no idea here. If these numbers work, you're at $7.5k for the licensed content and say $25k for the 50 exclusives.

-100mbps Hosting: Has to be Tier 1 I'd assume, say $35 per mbs, so $3.5k for the first month. Also assume you're going to be doing free hosted movie galleries, if not, you could reduce this figure.

Let's see where we are so far.

Sites - $5k
Promos - $3k
Backend Affiliate Software - $5k
Content - $32.5k
Hosting - $3.5k

TOTAL - $49k

So we're at nearly $50k, and there is no traffic yet for either the sites, or the affiliate program.

Questions:

1. What am I missing?

2. How many affiliates could $50k buy in terms of advertising on webmaster boards, etc. Never been involved in one myself, wouldn't even know where to start, but say GFY/Ynot/etc. Typical avenues.

Answer those two questions and you can then take the average affiliate signups per day figure (3?) and figure out gross rev.

you should take that jack and invest it in real estate in miami right now. thats what i would do. cash the register...

Escort biz said it was 50k for one site. She uses ccbill so has one expnse less. but she also does a 500% return a year according to the stats i saw.

you are missing contnet management software, security software, affilaite rep. and other stuff i have no clue on.

Says the adult webmaster with the stock oriented nick name.

:thumbsup

For content management software, how much do you need? 60 scenes per site could be done once, by hand, pretty easily I'd think.

For security it's just getting Strongbox up and running, isn't that good enough? No idea what it costs, but it can't be very expensive. Affiliate rep I have no idea on, what is that Slap?

On the 500% return, she's saying that she grosses $250k per year then? Is that before or after the affiliate split and other costs?

We need some aces to help this thread out for once, but aside from generic info, none of them will post their ninja secrets publically. We'll have to take it to ICQ.

After my last post I realise I need sleep. But hit me up tomorrow

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I think that was gross number. It was just huge. She has 6 sites now i think at tushycash and does very well. Lots of guys have one paysite and just push it themselves. Quiet and Sleazy come to mind. Aviods the affiliate rep and all the hassles with that. Bang out a nice site. update frequently. pics on tuesday and vid on friday. Use the marcd thread as gospel on how to crossale, upsale, email etc. and away you go.

oops, missed the key to marcd's thread. You need volume to redcue the cost of production over many members. You can make less per sale but be healthier with more members in the long run to spread the cost of updates etc.

It's do-able without affiliates for sure, it just depends on your commitment to driving traffic via multiple sources at a high $$$ level. Quiet's site, SD, SouthernCharms, MattsModels, NetVideoGirls, etc.

I don't know what the limit or threshold is for members on these sites, but whatever it is it's nothing to sneeze at when you're grossing $25 per.

before I'd start more paysites I'd build huge amounts of traffic in the niche so I can live very well of my own traffic

I can not recommend anything else

as far as the 100 grand goes... I had the same question come to my mind a few days ago
I wanted to go with mainstream but then the question... where to go? where to find people selling their mainstream sites´.... and then I was lost
I am missing resources here
if anyone thinks he can help me here with urls and such please mail me. people who help me never regret having done so

oh... as far as investment goes... I put $40k on a certificate that I think is going to make me a lot of money in the next year (and secure either :))... you might want to look into that market as well...

1031 exchange ... no loop hole. not non taxable. tax defered you will pay the gain one day, or your heirs will.

only tax exemption on real estate sales is if you live in the property for 2years and then sell it within 3 years after you move... you don't pay on captiol gains up to 500K or some shit like that.