Alternative to ClickCash?
 

Hi. Been using ClickCash for awhile now, doing allright.
For no given reason (they wont respond to my emails), my account has been disabled. I have not been violating TOS in any way.

Anyway, time to move on. Anyone got any suggestions? Ill probably get flamed for this being too general.
fyi most the stuff pushed is gay.

WatchingYou

Checkout PussyCash
We have a $100 per signup on ImLive :thumbsup

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=468596

im sure they had a reason

I'm an active webmaster and they won't reply to me either. Its just the way CC does their business. A real shame too they can't improve their customer service given how much they're making.
WG

I think they are busy / out this week. I've been trying to call Stacy for several days. She normally calls me back within an hour but no luck this week. And no, I don't have any problems with my account so she isn't ignoring me.

Will76 will berate you now.

http://epiccams.com brought to you by EpicCash

WG we already talked about it in the past, maybe it is time for you to checkout the program that give the best customer service available :thumbsup

PussyCash

my problem with imlive and a few other programs is they don't count realtime clicks for SHIT...and they don't convert much better, there are like 2 decent cam programs out there and i'm not saying who...

I have run tests side by side and mtree and imlive seem to take the clicks I normally send to other cam sponsors and cut it in 1/8th...what are you guys doing counting 3rd page hits?


seriously, it's wack

ImLive is counting 1st page unique clicks, if your members are coming from the same IP address they will be counted as one.
The main point is that we don't pay for clicks but for signups, so you need to checkout how many signups you are getting with ImLive and not how many clicks! :2 cents:

Keep in mind that we are paying $100 per signup, and in the end of the day you will see that you bank the most with ImLive. :thumbsup

He has tried in the past to try and get them to reply to my inquiries. I guess you need his kind of volume to warrant any attention from them.
WG

The only reason I'm using CC is because I need a webcam sponsor who doesn't go through an IPSP and who pays out on the free trial like they do. I'm spoiled getting $55/free join at this point :)
WG

Contact me and I'll make sure that you make more money with us, without any risk on your end :thumbsup

I think they are just understaffed. I was never pushing his volume but I could call or email and get a response until recently. The only other time I remember having trouble getting someone on their end was when they were working on getting 1099's out. I can't even get an ICQ response now. :/

amen to that...

and not paid on deposits/signups only...


a user is a user, if they fill out a form I figure its' the cam companies issue to get hot models in their face and paying, not mine, obviously they were interested enough to signup through a form, whip out a card to get access, now it's their job as a cam program owner to make it pay, NOT mine, I have no editorial control over the inside of their site or how hot the models are they hire to juice the money out....

Unless you can make a similiar payout structure like iFriends (which you do have), but without an IPSP processing the transactions and paying on free trials (not when a deposit is made), then I'm not willing to change models. I know my traffic inside and out, and these surfers are price sensitive. Payout on free trial or no go, sorry.
WG

I wish it was possible to get their attention. I'm trying to send them more joins but when they won't reply, it doesn't exactly spell confidence in their company. Surely they can afford to hire an extra rep or two.

WG

How about I'll pay you per click :winkwink:

Exactly. If iFriends can do it, any other company can too.
WG

Eugh, I don't like per click to be honest. Main reason, see TheJimmy's post. I'm not saying clicks are being miscounted or anything, I just prefer getting paid on a per signup rate. It's better since my traffic varies in nature and I find paying per signup is a better way to pay a fair market value of what its worth.
WG

Well it is up to you.
ICQ me and I'll make sure you will get this month a minimum of 20% more then you did the last month :thumbsup

if this is not the best deal you can get, then enjoy what you have.

Ok your new so you didnt know to contact me :winkwink:

I am the "unoffical" clickcash support guy, helper, spammer, (depends on whos view point it is coming from).

Email me and I will pass it along but it looks like it wouldn't get resolved till monday morning.

will at teamclickcash.com

We need to get your situation taken care of. Try one more time CC me and I will make sure we get it taken care of. I know we left off right you went out of town for Convention and I've been busy with updating the site since... apologize for not touching back with you to make sure it was taken care of.

Well, I'm extremely confident that being paid on deposit won't achieve results near what I'm used to. So unless you can offer a plan where I'd get paid on the free trial, I'll have to stick with CC. No offense to your offer, I just know my traffic won't convert as well.

WG

The only thing I really need is for someone from CC to reply to me to be honest. To approve the creatives, make sure my traffic acquisition model isn't against their terms (it's a grey area), etc. etc. I know you're very supportive in your aspects, but this is something I need someone employed by CC to approve.

WG

Tuesday I'm sure. Monday is memorial day.

Maybe I wasn't clear, send me the same traffic and I'll take care of the convert rate.
I'll pay you a flat rate of 20% more then you did last month.
If the convert rate will be better then you expect, you could do even more then that.

So again, no risk, and extra 20% more cash for the same traffic, and an option to get even more. :2 cents:

I'm not going to keep on posting about it, I think it is clear this time!

Why's that? I'll be the first to admit their support staff works their ass off and they could use another 20 people over there helping them easy...

My site will also help them out and take some of the general support off of their backs so they can deal with the more important stuff. You would be surprised how many people email for silly stuff like where is the link the agreement form, why didnt i get my $50 bonus (but they only sent 2 sales ever), how does the link code work, a lot of stuff that could be found out if the person reads the FAQ section. Which they technically say on the website, if your question is answered in our FAQ area then we will not reply back to you emails, but they still do in many cases. However little or lot of the burden i take off of them by helping to answer these types of questions, it will free up their support stuff to answer the more important stuff like billing and checks that I can not help you out with.

Chad, you seem to think that i jump people for saying anything bad about ClickCash. But you are not that bright and you see ONLY what you want to see. I get defensive when people attack them and say they scam people or shut down accounts for no reason. Believe me there is always a reason. I also point out when people claim that clickcash is having problems (justification for why their sales are down) and I am having a good week and others i work with or having a good week, that the person's ASSumptions that CLickCash is having problems are not accurate. (Not possible for lots of people to be having a good week and some having a bad for the blame to be on the company, it's not logical. everyone would be having a bad week.) For these 2 instances you equate that to = I attack everyone for uttering one bad word about them. I know they could use more support staff and they dont always get back to YOU right away. I also know they don;t have the most webmaster tools in the world either.

I am addressing these issues with my website. I have been listening why people have not been happy with them and I will fix these things so everyone here will have no compliants and the best chances to make money and receive fast support. I love clickcash and think what i am doing is a win win win for everyone, the clickcash webmasters win with more advertising tools, content, support, etc... ClickCash wins because I will be helping more webmaster become productive and signing new webmasters up, and i will by making money from helping everyone else make money.

I've been using clickcash for the same reason. Their signup is painless and they pay on the free signup.

Hey WiredGuy... would you be willing to email me Stacy's number? I used to have it somewhere around here, but I havent had any problems in awhile.

erikb at jebonline.com

Thanks alot

Oh, and will76 - check your email!

I convert like 1:350 - 1:400 on average on first pahe LOADS with ClickCash, NOT first page clicks. Big difference between page load and first page click. And mixed in with that is everything from paid traffic, SE, to some trash tgp... it is a big mix.

I'm just fuckin with ya dude. I still remember you jumping my case because I said clickcash was having a bad week / weeks. If you can provide what they don't then everyone wins.

Has Stacy changed ICQ numbers though?

Amen Amen to that, I feel my job is to get their CC card out and to join... the website sells them on spending money by HOW many girls are on, the QUALITY of the girls and the UPSELL features like Ifriends offers with the Fan Clubs. It;s great. The member can signup FREE to the FAN CLUB and see her weekly free show for free. There are cams that move, multiple cams, HDTV, tons of chathost features. Basically 5x more people onlive then any other site and 100x more features (extras). Almost all other cam sites the people go to private, thats it. period.

So my job is to get them to make an account with credit card I get paid, IFriends does a great job at getting money out of them so they DO NOT need to require a deposit from them like most of the other cam sites.

Yo '76, just wondering if you got my emails. Let me know what you think about my situation.

Are there any other companies that operate exactly like ifriends on a similar payscale?

checking.....

ICQ: 86364801 if you need me.

YOu need to send 100 signups a day for THAT ICQ number...

J/k

You need help with something in general ?

we love to write big checks to webmasters for webcam traffic

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www.streamray.com
www.legendarylars.com

No I changed ICQ numbers when I formatted for spyware and haven't been able to get her since.

But when you talk to them tell them their rotating join pages get stuck on a blank page from time to time. :(

if you were a little bit nicer to me and spent a little less time making fake stats and shit :disgust like that I would be willing to help you a lot more even though you are not one of my members.... :winkwink:

Here is a post i made on my members messageboard... it might help you with selecting a signup page other then the one that causes the news ones to randomly display:

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Hey guys... as most of you have noticed the new signup pages are still randomly displaying on most of the old signup page urls.

If you want to use the old standard signup page with the mini pics onthe side use this url: http://orders.webpower.com/cgi/vpadult.exe?s=1

The old signup page with the 4 cams still works fine (still little slow but no random new signup pages will appear when you use this link): http://orders.webpower.com/iFriends/vpNAmain.htm

New Signup Pages:
http://orders.webpower.com/cgi/vpadult.exe?s=2
http://orders.webpower.com/cgi/vpadult.exe?s=3
http://orders.webpower.com/cgi/vpadult.exe?s=4
http://orders.webpower.com/cgi/vpadult.exe?s=5
http://orders.webpower.com/cgi/vpadult.exe?s=6
http://orders.webpower.com/cgi/vpadult.exe?s=7
http://orders.webpower.com/cgi/vpadult.exe?s=8
http://orders.webpower.com/cgi/vpadult.exe?s=9
http://orders.webpower.com/cgi/vpadult.exe?s=10

(IMPORTANT if you see missing templates still coming up then you may want to switch to the old ones to be safe, but appears all bugs are worked out.



These: http://orders.webpower.com/iFriends/vpNAmain.htm
OR any of the signup pages from incrediblecams.com totallyfreecams.com or sizzlingcams.com ALL still work as they did previously. )

I found the pages before the were released. But I have a few thousand old links going to the old join url so I'm sure they are hanging up as well. Wish they'd beta these things first.

Will, the signup pages from S=2 .. 10 are giving me errors. Only with s=1 I get a good page.
WG

looks like they are still working on them... they haven't been officially released so I guess we will have to wait till they finish doing what they do. BUt i am pretty sure that the =1 is fine to use if you dont want the random new ones to pop up... best bet IMO is: http://orders.webpower.com/iFriends/vpNAmain.htm

I like the s=1 myself because the left margin is removed.
WG

I'm pretty sure they are released now. My old join page links go to random new ones.

Those new pages (seem to work now) seem really nice, I like.
WG

See sig for dating & cam sponsors, details and who pays by ePassporte. Most already mentioned in thread but a nice, neat list never hurt anybody

:pimp

btw, PussyCash is easily one of the best programs out there. They didn't get so big by screwing over webmasters. And why don't you tell us "who" is a decent cam program? I know of at least ten and I'll mention a few for starters in no specific order (with apologies to those I miss ... I'm writing fast, I want sleep!)

PussyCash
Lars
WebCamCash
LiveBucks
LiveJasmin
Epic Cash
CamSense
WEGCash
VSCash

:thumbsup :thumbsup

They don't get so big by screwing over webmasters logic would mean that Clickcash scews the least since they are the biggest and if you think otherwise you are crazy. Even Lars will tell you Ifriends/ClickCash is the biggest, although i know he has his sights set on being #1 ;)

bottom line if my clicks aren't showing up and counting well then there is a significant possibility that OTHER shit is being screwed with...

also my checks are simply, and always have been, bigger with the main 2 cam sponsors I use...even after testing these other 'wonderful cam sponsors' side by side...

who knows, maybe it's my traffic, I know all traffic is not the same and doesn't like the same programs....it's just my experience