The Feds are getting organized to fight obscenity!
 

This is really an informative article. Check it out.

Posted today on AVN.com:

Justice Department Announces Formation of Obscenity Task Force

[http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary...ent_ID=226106]

thanks for the info! :)

Why down they organize the feed the homeless task force or the keep kids in school task force instead of wasting money on this shit, fuck!

these christian taliban zealots are as scarey as the muslim ones...

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although I'm all for prosecution of those sick fucks that exploit kids...that's wronger than wrong...

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If you read, its child porn they are after. Nothing wrong with that. I hope they jail every one of them.

What article did you read? They are not going after child porn, they are going after "obscenity", which means any porn they don't like.

They call it the "Child Exploitation and Obscenity" unit to blur the line between legal porn and child porn. They are talking about going after legal porn.

yep actually it says they are starting a task force just go after obscenity apart from the child one.

It's a good thing I don't produce, host or own obscene content.

Just straight sex, but then again, right wingers think all porn is obscene.

But they want to win so they are going to go after the extreme stuff first.

the sky's falling.... again.. has it been 6 months since it last fell already?

this is just to try to prop up the administration's failing bullshit policies and falling popularity.

look, there are going to be some busts.

not on mainstream fucking and sucking hardcore.

but on rough sex, degrading sex, and weird fetish shit, the kind of stuff that members of grand juries aren't accustomed to seeing when they go to the adults only room of their local video rental outlet.

now whether they'll be convictions is another story.

methinks most "convictions" they will get will be people taking a plea deal rather than battling it out in front of a jury.

fact is, if you are busted you LOSE whether or not you win in court because the financial and emotional toll is very heavy.

within this past week i saw some sample vids of some new "hot stuff" of getting some poor girl to drink urine, and puke while she was throat-fucked.

you kids think this is a great laugh. DOJ is certainly monitoring this domain, and that sort of shit is just about the stupidest thing you can handle in this political environment.

of course, i could be wrong.

Yes you're exactly right... This time it could be for real because there are a lot of politicians in the Democrat party that will publicly support high profile obscenity prosecutions.

Basically, I fear that there will be an alliance created between the fundamentalist Christian right and certain ambitious Democratic politicians to go after online porn. It's a win win situation for someone like Hillary Clinton. She can appeal to the radical feminists in the far left and wingnuts in the extreme right at the same time. The only people who will get pissed are the youth(who don't vote) and the pornographers (who have no allies)

There are many potential candidates for President in 2008 from the Democratic party that wish to distance themselves from the social liberals and be viewed as moderate. Prosecuting online porn will achieve that political outcome.

Things are gonna get rough over the next few years... Today's friends are tomorrow's enemies

LOL, that's not how they operate when they already know any obscenity case is difficult to prosecute.

I wouldn't be surprised if they go after all kinds of sites, even the moderate ones.

What would happen if a regular supermarket put out basic adult magazines in the aisle racks just showing couples having sex?

So what's the difference of what all these sites are doing with their free TGP galleries for example? None. Everyone does it because there's been zero enforcement against it.

Everyone that displays sex online is at risk. Don't kid yourself and think they are just going after the "extreme" pornographers.

I woulnd't be surprised at all under this administration that they go after mainstream pornography online as well this time. Even if they don't win the psychological effect of that will be industry shattering.

from article " So far, the Task Force is not credited with having taken any actions, although Oosterbaan has recently been quoted as saying that there are approximately 20 obscenity investigations under way. "


That's great news, before aschroft left office and everyone was waiting for the wave obscentity cases to happen, the DOJ said they had 100+ cases undervestigation then. Nothing happened.

It's all politics. If you been around long enough you will knowthis by now. If they cant win a case againt extreme ass. then the feds are not going to go after your lesser extreme content. We will always have the isolated local case, but this is just more hot air from the DOJ trying to appeal to their right wing fanatical followers.

wouldn't it be crazy if they started targetting tgp's specifically, and it set off a trend that cut down on the amount of tgp's out there, cause people are too scared they will get prosecuted

If I have a hardcore pict online, you can bet you last dollar that I'd use a cc or avs for access, 2257s for the pict, and a disclaimer that looks like the telephone book. How many memberships do you have to sell to pay for a first rate attorney? Try $100,000 worth. A webmaster will probably be somebody's punkass in the federal pen cause attitude don't get you much.

i doubt any jail would be served for an obscenity conviction, but there would be some serious probation and fines

i may be wrong though...which i probably am

Is it that time of year already? When they announce a big crackdown?

Sorry, no laws are being broken.

The really sad thing is that this is considered a sex offense in most states, and we will all be listed as sex offenders.

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Good and sensibel post as always.

If you promote/sell mainstream porn and have all you documents together then you are fairly safe. If you think taking the easy route and going for the sicker stuff then good luck to you.

As for them coming after mainstream, forget about it. Too many voters buy it to want the balance tipped at the next elections.

But until this industry organises itself and comes together to fight as one, this will continue to happen and the few who get picked off will have to face paying the bill or copping a plea. If the industry came together with a united front and fund to fight this we would not have the threat.

to everyone who voted for bush.









I told you so. :321GFY

"So far, the Task Force is not credited with having taken any actions, although Oosterbaan has recently been quoted as saying that there are approximately 20 obscenity investigations under way."


SO maybe in a few months we will be seeing a few less sponsors.
Thats 20 investigations.

By the numbers there is gonna be a few people that come to gfy are gonna get picked off.

How many people here do you suppose could afford a proper legal defense let alone bail even if they are 100% covered with valid 2257, non extreme porn, and so on?
Do people think it will be major sponsors with cash to fight back that will be hit? Or do some people live in the real world and relize a conviction is a conviction no matter how big or small you really are in reality, and after they are done with that person they will become whatever they want them to appear as to the media when they spoon feed them the info.

Obscenity is also just a way to open the proverbial door. For a long time they have pretty much known that an obscenity case is nearly unwinnable. Bigger questions are though, can you afford to fight it, will you continue on after you have been tarnished and branded, do you have every little tax detail in order, and most importantly will you not plea out and take a deal?

Yeah sure everyone has been claiming the sky is falling every few months since 96 or so. Problem is most webmasters would be to young to remember the 80's. So they ignore it and see it all as chicken little behavior and feel they are untouchable and "legal". Reality is your a pornographer and society hates your ass. Sure many like your product but they still will shun and prosecute you.

uh oh :helpme

Just know your history of the gov't and porn...........its another form of economic harrassment. And of course its lead by the Bush Administration, who's high figures, when the doors are locked and nobody is watching, masturbate to porn just like everyone else does.

Recently, the DOJ working with local prosecutors have been making high profile obscentiy cases agains retail store chains such as Goalie and John Coil's stores. In doing so, they examine every detail of the defendents income and expenses. If everything isn't 100% correct, they get charged with income tax fraud. If the defendent has any family members working on payroll (or off, hence, tax fraud) or if they are on any corporate documents including as officers, directors or partners, they are usually charged as well.

When the defendent's wife and children are looking at some serious jail time, the Feds will offer to make a deal:

You plead guilty to obscenity even if the content is perfectly legal to keep the family out of federal prison. The obscenity guilty plea will allow the Feds to invoke the Rico provisions that enable them to confiscate all your property, cash, and real estate effectively putting you out of business while lining their pockets. And you sit in prison for a stretch. I think the latest terms have been 7 to 10 years.

The end result: You are out of business, you are in prison, your family is destitue and without you or your support.

Just remember, when they get to your family, they got you by the balls.

here's someone who has the gist of it.

god i like Canada sometimes ;)

Thanks for putting it a lot more eloquantly than I did.

It is just food for thought. Now is the time to clean up your act if your "kung fu" is weak. Don't wait for the Man to make his play first. If you do, we will see you in a couple of years. By the way, they don't have internet access in prison.

this is the end of pr0n. Im going to apply at Wendy's tomorrow

A lot has changed since the 80's wouldn;t you agree. Do you think if Extreme Associates was distributing the same tapes back then they would have got the case thrown out ??? no they would have been hung in the 80's. It's 2005 community standards have changed. If it were the 80's and we were all pushing the same stuff we are doing now, back then sure i would be be scared. but it's not the 80's and most people do not think the same, the govt can arrest you but a jury of peers need to convict you and it whole new generation of peers now. the govt knows this.


WHAT THE HELL DO YOU THINK THEY ARE WAITING FOR ????? they keep saying we going to do this but they never do, if they were so confident they would be arresting people by the 1000's. If they were so confident (as they were in the 80's) they would be going to the conventions and raiding the place. SERIOUSLY, what the fuck are they waiting for? they test the water with EXTREME associates and they got their ass handed to them, so some of you here think their next course of action is to go after people who show less offensive stuff? I know you think the govt is stupid but there is no logic in that. They took what they thought was the worse they lost bad... now they will keep talking to keep the religious right happy.

As long as the conservatives don't win the next election... Stephen Harper would be sucking GW's ball sack.

The only good thing about that would be to see a few Bush voters with GPS tracking devices for life. Maybe it would help them see that Fox News is not their friend. :1orglaugh

If you vote for politicians who don't believe in free speech, don't be shocked if you end up in trouble working in porn.

My point is the Feds do not get convictions from juries. They get guilty pleas from people trying to keep family members out of prison. Having family members involved in your business is very dangerous to your freedom.

ok then if that is your point then the vast majority of people here dont have anything to worry about... how many people here you think have family members working for them ??

Don't be short-sighted. When it comes to family, there are many ways they can be involved in your business.

They don't necessarily have to be on payroll. They can be listed as corporate officers, co-signers on your 1040 tax return, or, even be listed as a co-signer on your bank accounts. And, don't forget shared credit cards when you use funds from your business to fund the cards. If you are really making big bucks, they can be the beneficiaries of trust funds, etc.

Just follow the money/document trail and, if, you find a family member, correct it now before you have a problem.

Don't be so paranoid. first of all you have to be doing something wrong. secondly they have to actually start convicting people, which since they fucked up extreme associates they haven't tried anyone since and likely wont unless it is a more extreme defendant. If you get a lawyer worth an ouce of shit he is not going to let you roll over and get fucked in the ass because the govt is telling you they are goin to go after your wife because she is authroized to use your credit card. If the person is not involved (hands dirty) they are not getting anywhere with them and who ever may be in that situation, their lawyer will explain that to them. if your the photographer and your wife is the model and your producing scat, different story but not what your talking about.