Nothing bush has done pisses me off more than this Shaivo shit...
 

A woman's husband, her other half, the man she chose to trust, honor, and love is stating that she doesn't / wouldn't want to exist under those circumstances, and these fuckin dickhead politicians have the balls ignore this? It is none of their fucking BUSINESS.

Bush is saying "It's always better to be on the side of life", but what LIFE is there being bed-ridden for years on end without a functioning brain, so much to the point at which you can't even feed your fucking self. God damn these people are idiotic.

read before sounding silly.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1006944/posts

did you see this topic? http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=446581

I found it interesting that Bush passed a law while gov of Texas, which is the total opposite of what he preaches now.

Aside from the fact that after all, he was the " Butcher of Texas " ...

How many executed prisonner maybe were innocent?
Didn't he say today that it is " safer" to be on the side of life ...

Talking about FLIP-FLOP , :mad:

Dude, go protest an abortion clinic with the rest of those nuts.

fuck bush :321GFY

yep the ultimate flip flopper

I cant believe all the democrats voted against Bush on this

lol yea I know that's a fact I've always found ironic. He signed off on the most death row executions while governor of Texas, than any other governor in the history of this country. Yet he claims to be pro life. It simply amazes me he has pulled the wool over the eyes of the conservatives the way he has.

Just shows that they only want lip service and really don't seem to get the difference from saying you will do something and actually doing it.

Idiot... Just because someone cannot feed them self does not mean they should let to die. Good thing morons like you are not in charge.

There is way more to this issue then what you are saying.

Let The Bitch Die

Fuck Tom DeLay

if he was this bastard why didnt he take the 10 million he was offered to sign over to her parents. People do lie under oath. I cant believe you agree with this wasting of your tax dollars.

I wonder if the fact she is a white woman has anything to do with it? Seems to me the only cases the American media pays attention to (at least, this much) is when white, female victims are involved.

ahhh, now there's a brilliant argument against facts.

he wasn't offered 10 million, his lawyer said he was. big difference.

the people who generally lie under oath are generally those who stand to inherit money upon their wife's death.

DOH! There's a tad bit more to it than the fact she can't feed herself. She is a VEGETABLE! She feels, sees, hears NOTHING! She IS the living dead.

This case has been big local news here for years. Over those years, I've seen statements and affidavits from craploads of "specialists" and people claiming to have direct contact with Terri make their way into the news.

Even the local right-wing radio personalities who have been following the case closely (unlike the vast majority of America who is only getting the current propaganda) are in favor of letting her go, although their biggest problem is the method, dehydration. One even suggested euthanasia.

Every time the courts are about to pull the tube, the parents make a Hail Mary pass with some "new" thing to drag the poor woman's so-called life on another few months.

This shit has been in and out of court for fucking ever, where the fuck have all these grandstanding politicos been? I guess there's not anything else important going on in our country that they've got time to stick their head into CNN or FOX and let us all know how they value this "life" so much. Makes me fucking sick.

My Aunt works at Palm Gardens, where Terri was for a while. They've got wings and wings of vegetables, I wonder which will be on the news next?

There are a few things more that piss me off, Iraq, privacy issues, stand on gay rights, women's rights, human rights, etc...but I do agree with you.

Barry Goldwater is SPINNING in his grave. If he could talk he would say " "

Ok..he's dead..so he can't say anything, but if he was ALIVE he would say "What the FUCK are you people doing? This is not what Conservatives & Republicans are supposed to be about! We want government OUT of people's lives, NOT sticking their nose in where it does NOT belong!"

yes....its a waste of time and money.......they could be feeding the hungry and helping childern.........but a vegetable has to get in the way.....sorry to be blunt... but damn.....

I have nothing against most Americans but the Bible Thumping Red Necks are taking over the place it seems.. I'd be moving the fuck out of there..

From the article I briefly skimmed yesterday I was led to believe that it was the woman's parents and brother who contacted certain polititians and beseeched them to intervene. The husband, after 16 years of having his wife lying there in a vegetative state, had the "plug-pulling" all but a done deal. It is his wife's family who is fighting him tooth and nail to keep her alive, and are the reason why the government is involved now.

As a health care worker for over 14 years myself, I had occasion to look after many such patients. I would say that generally (not always), after so many years of a person's quality of life being so minimal, there should come a time when it is time to let go and say goodbye and shut down the life support. We never starved anyone to death, but ceasing any sort of aggressive life support is often warranted in these cases.

the constitution lists the right to life first.
not sure why you halfwits think this is a religious or right wing issue.
since when has it been ok to starve someone to death because another person said it was ok?

Why hasn't Michael Shiavo allowed her to be filmed for the last 2 years? Her family claims she is capable of more than he does. Send a camera and a medical expert for both sides in and let them prove their point. The judges that have ruled in her case(s) have never visited her to see for themselves what her condition actually is.

Now.. I'm not being cynical.... BUT...

Why the fuck was there so little consideration to "pro life" when George decided he needed to go to war and kill over 100,000 Iraq people plus US forces and others in the "coalition of the willing"?? This was based on the claim of WMD with either nothing or lies to support it.

Why did that Governor of Texas assume and lay claim to "not one of those executed was innocent of the crime"? He don't know this, but still managed to execute as many as possible in his reign there. Pro what?? :-)

It hard now to think that the efforts on behalf of Terri are other than political bullshit and hypocracy to simply "face" minority groups with pro-life beliefs.

Most leaders and the general public are pro-life - the difference is, they don't keep talking about it.

I guess he doesn't have much respect for the "RULE OF LAW" and the "SANCTITY OF MARRAIGE" :)


hahhaaha, fuck I had to say that....George "Irony" Bush hard at work again...





but honestly, to err on the side of life isn't a bad argument...this situation is kinda a tough call no matter what way you go...

I find that amazing if not one judge has got off his ass and checked this case first hand and visited the subject of the case.

Also.. there are some very strange affivavits from nursing staff and others concerning the health and treatment of Terri Shiavo and the conduct/instructions from Michael Shiavo over some years which give rise to other concerns.

Something stinks someplace - it just don't jell.

Bible thumping rednecks founded America.

IF its true then he has been consistant throughout.... he thinks his wife would better off dead

He has been inappropriate, but he is not a politition and is faced with one of the most tragic situations possible. Im a nurse and have heard a lot worse, relatives have begged me to end patients lives.

Its not even an issue really.... what does this women need NOW?

thats all you took from that?

if she can interact with others, shouldn't it be up to her what happens?

we have a nurse swearing she said "help me" over and over. is that enough?

We are playing into the hands of the rest of the family and others with thier own agendas......

We shouldnt be debating if this guy was a bastard or not...... We should be asking what should be happening NOW to the only person who hasnt got the luxury of having an opinion

that is more than enough...

the rest of the family doesn't stand to inherit millions earmarked for her recovery if she dies. the "agenda" in question is the husbands.

what should happen now? they should start the rehab that the husband stopped shortly after she won 2.6 mil.

I think the one thing that a few people could agree on, on either side, is that there are quite a few questions that aren't entirely/100% answerable in this predicament...

and if you agree with that, do you not go to the logical conclusion that you don't starve someone to death until you have an answer to the questions?

christ, a convicted murderer has a better chance.

She can't. The only part of her brain that functions at all is the brain stem, which allows her to breathe on her own. The rest of her brain is fried. She is incapable of thought, pain, memory, etc...Basically, her body is nothing but a shell at this point. The lack of food will not affect her, as she is incapable of processing the pains of hunger. She will be better off resting in peace.

And we have a husband swearing that she asked not to be left in this state should she ever be unfortunate enough to be in it.

ahhh, this guy left left his brain surgery practice to submit TGPs

after swearing in court that he needed the malpracratice suit to take care of her forever.

don't argue facts you don't know.

Nope, but every brain surgeon without a stake in the situation has come to the same conclusion.

http://hyscience.typepad.com/hyscien...schiavo_c.html

again, don't argue facts you don't know of.

There was still hope for her situation at that point. He and her family worked together for quite awhile trying to find the best source of treatment. It reached the point where doctors came to the conclusion that there was no hope. This is when they took opposite stances.

If he thinks he can do it, then he needs to gets his ass on a plane to Florida ASAP...I hope he can.

All I can say at this point is that if it were my wife in a similar situation, I would want to do what is in her best interest and in accordance with her wishes prior to her being incapacitated. And I wouldn't want the rest of the family or the world or a bunch of armchair quarterbacks debating the issue and telling me I can't do what I as her husband know is in her best interest.

But that's if it were me in that situation. It isn't, and since I don't know all the intimate facts of the case I really don't see how I or anyone else can comment on what should or shouldn't be done with this woman. Everyone involved just has to figure out what really is in her best interest and move forward in that direction. Period.

Too bad... He could have operated on you ... that is if he could find your's ....

I agree, that no one should be 'staved' to death...

that is cruel and unusual for sure...

erring on the side of caution seems the most prudent...however it's hard to negate the possibility that her wishes are being denied as stated by her husband and that she could be in a living hell now as a result, really hard to guess what's on the other side there :/ it's a damm messy situation no matter how you slice this one up...

Jesus, this guy is such a scammer. He wants her dead so he can get married to this other girl and go on with his life and probably grab whatever other bucks he can off this poor girl.

How bloody inhumane to starve someone to death. What the fuck. I'm glad the government stepped in to stop this insanity.

I don't buy for a second this girl told him she wants to die either. Did you see this weasle on Larry King tonight. He was full of it.

Let the parents have her back.

I can't even believe people are supporting killing this woman.

:321GFY

and when people tried to lookup said nurse.. she didnt exist as a nurse...in florida or anywhere else.

bullshit.