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WWC 03-01-2005 09:33 PM

Reasons Why Affiliate Programs Close Down?
 
This thread will be an interesting one.

What is your opinion on why affiliate programs close doors?

Here is what i think :

1) Many who start affiliate programs, dont have business experience, degrees or a serious business plan.

2) Some, who start affiliate programs dont think of it as a long term business instead short get rich quick mentality.

3) Many dont have a monthly budget projection or analysis and just spend random.

4) Many new affiliate programs try to compete with companies who have been in business for more than 3 years thinking they can match their offering on commissions and payouts. For instance, many inexperienced new affiliate program owners have no idea on how to be profitable but yet offer high $35 pay per sign up on trials.

I personally think instead of all these new affiliate programs opening up and eventually closing doors, should just work with companies like SilverCash, TopBucks, PlatinumBucks, AdultLounge, SmashBucks, LightSpeed or others who have a long term business plan.

Folks, its not easy to operate a successful affiliate program. Companies like i have mentioned above have experience, quality content, in house staff, funding, and much more....You are better off sending your traffic to them rather than starting your own. Think about it. You can be 50/50 partners with pros...just my 2 cents.

There are more reasons but i think i will leave it to see who can fill in the rest and continue from here.

Post along please :-) this thread will be interesting, educational and informative.

European Lee 03-01-2005 09:34 PM

Stupid Cash.

Regards,

Lee

Spunky 03-01-2005 09:37 PM

The owners blow it all on coke and hookers :(

European Lee 03-01-2005 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunky
The owners blow it all on coke and hookers :(

Already said that see reply #2 above ;)

Regards,

Lee

The Heron 03-01-2005 09:39 PM

I know of many newbies that jump in making paysites without ever learning any of the basics of porn (hell some host with companies that don't accept adult content)
You can't expect those people to succeed.
The lack of money management is a big one too.

Spunky 03-01-2005 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by European Lee
Already said that see reply #2 above ;)

Regards,

Lee

:1orglaugh Right program name anyways

DTK 03-01-2005 09:42 PM

1) Undercapitalization

2) General incompetence

3) Thinking that all you need to do is slap together processing and a lame members area, buy some ads on WM boards and then assuming everyone will drop what they're doing and divert all their traffic to your crappy sites

Shoplifter 03-01-2005 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTK
1) Undercapitalization

2) General incompetence

3) Thinking that all you need to do is slap together processing and a lame members area, buy some ads on WM boards and then assuming everyone will drop what they're doing and divert all their traffic to your crappy sites

4) Expecting suckers to buy into the PPS bigger payout is better scam.

DTK 03-01-2005 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoplifter
4) Expecting suckers to buy into the PPS bigger payout is better scam.


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Easton 03-01-2005 09:47 PM

they try and peddle ripped DVDs

Alex 03-01-2005 09:47 PM

Nothing orginal.
Paying on free trials.

If you plan to pay on free trials like purecash did. Then you need 90% of the free trials to convert into full to make $$$
If you give them a free trial
They see the same old shit, are they going to buy?

DTK 03-01-2005 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoplifter
4) Expecting suckers to buy into the PPS bigger payout is better scam.

You mean that company that used to offer $70/join just didn't have it all figured out 150% better than everyone else????? You're not going to tell me that the tooth fairy is a lie too are you? :helpme

foxxx 03-01-2005 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTK
You mean that company that used to offer $70/join just didn't have it all figured out 150% better than everyone else????? You're not going to tell me that the tooth fairy is a lie too are you? :helpme

hahah yeah those fuckers shut up shop when i started joining the sites myself and canceling after one month ;)

sweetcuties 03-01-2005 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTK
1) Undercapitalization

2) General incompetence

3) Thinking that all you need to do is slap together processing and a lame members area, buy some ads on WM boards and then assuming everyone will drop what they're doing and divert all their traffic to your crappy sites

I agree 100%... I've been in this game for 5yrs and I don't believe the hype by most of the programs out there

abyss_al 03-01-2005 09:58 PM

you guys forgot the top 2 reasons aff prog shut down:

1- SPAM
2- CHARGE BACKS

:thumbsup

DTK 03-01-2005 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abyss_al
you guys forgot the top 2 reasons aff prog shut down:

1- SPAM
2- CHARGE BACKS

:thumbsup

Wouldn't those generally qualify under my #2?? ;)

abyss_al 03-01-2005 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTK
Wouldn't those generally qualify under my #2?? ;)


somewhat... they are fully aware of the consiquences, but they do it anyways... they think short term and long term of where they want the company to go :pimp

eMonk 03-01-2005 10:14 PM

get caught shaving sales... :1orglaugh

TDF 03-01-2005 10:32 PM

what I dont understand is why people think becuase a company closes down that people are bad buisnessmen.There are tons of people in the game for the short term goal of getting the money while its good and moving on to other things

TDF 03-01-2005 10:34 PM

if I could make a couple of mill profit in a year or 2 I would invest it in non porn property and never post here again :)

yellowmenace 03-01-2005 10:36 PM

Interesting thread.

David - PG 03-01-2005 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultLoungeRaffi
For instance, many inexperienced new affiliate program owners have no idea on how to be profitable but yet offer high $35 pay per sign up on trials.

How many new affiliate programs (with inexperienced management as you say) have been launched - let's say in the last 12 months - that pay $35 PPS w/ trials?

VMAN 03-01-2005 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultLoungeRaffi
I personally think instead of all these new affiliate programs opening up and eventually closing doors, should just work with companies like SilverCash, TopBucks, PlatinumBucks, AdultLounge, SmashBucks, LightSpeed or others who have a long term business plan.

Wow you associate yourself with some heavy hitters.

Matt_WildCash 03-01-2005 11:37 PM

There are many more great programs out there than the ones you listed. If your trying to scare anyone you've failed. What decent sized programs have closed down recently? fuck all I can think of. Only Purecash.com recently.

New programs come out all the time and most big ones do well. I certainly know the numbers well for Wildcash.com and can handle paying $25-30 on $1 trials all day long.

Major (Tom) 03-02-2005 02:08 AM

its all about starting slow, putting enough in the bank for unforseen expenses and then putting it back into the business on a well thought out budget. Long term goals with monthly milestones. Smart investments etc.

But you're right.. too many people copy the big programs without building a solid foundation first.
Duke

Mutt 03-02-2005 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultLoungeRaffi
This thread will be an interesting one.

What is your opinion on why affiliate programs close doors?

Here is what i think :

1) Many who start affiliate programs, dont have business experience, degrees or a serious business plan.

2) Some, who start affiliate programs dont think of it as a long term business instead short get rich quick mentality.

3) Many dont have a monthly budget projection or analysis and just spend random.

4) Many new affiliate programs try to compete with companies who have been in business for more than 3 years thinking they can match their offering on commissions and payouts. For instance, many inexperienced new affiliate program owners have no idea on how to be profitable but yet offer high $35 pay per sign up on trials.

I personally think instead of all these new affiliate programs opening up and eventually closing doors, should just work with companies like SilverCash, TopBucks, PlatinumBucks, AdultLounge, SmashBucks, LightSpeed or others who have a long term business plan.

Folks, its not easy to operate a successful affiliate program. Companies like i have mentioned above have experience, quality content, in house staff, funding, and much more....You are better off sending your traffic to them rather than starting your own. Think about it. You can be 50/50 partners with pros...just my 2 cents.

There are more reasons but i think i will leave it to see who can fill in the rest and continue from here.

Post along please :-) this thread will be interesting, educational and informative.

ahahaha - you arrogant delusional spamming sack of crap - putting your flea bitten program and your friend's program in the same sentence as Silvercash, PlantinumBucks, Lightspeed etc - u ain't shit, you are nothing but a revshare program, you don't do pay per signup - get it straight finally - u are NO better than anybody else with a revshare program - which is about 5,000 webmasters. So get off your high horse and talk to the hand my man - don't be telling anybody whether they should be running a paysite or an affiliate program until you can walk the walk and not just talk the talk.

and i presume this ridiculously pompous post is regarding WEG's announcement that Purecash is being shut down. You ain't fit to shine the shoes of either WEG or Purecash. Purecash shut down because one of the partners who could buy and sell you 100 times over wanted out of adult altogether. that's the end of that story.

if i were Lensman i'd ban you - you and your content company do nothing but spam this board day and night. buy a fucking banner - if you're such a hot program where's your banner? Hmmm..........Silvecash skinned this board, Platinum Bucks skinned this board, Lightspeed has had a banner as long as I've been here, TopBucks the same - oh gee I wonder who's missing from that list of top notch programs you refer to - could it be - oh .......Adult Lounge?

quiet 03-02-2005 02:26 AM

:glugglug

chaze 03-02-2005 02:51 AM

Not to get off the topic but watch out for March 14th one of the biggest new trends in adult affiliate programs are coming.

Easy money for anyone with traffic.

DeanCapture 03-02-2005 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt
ahahaha - you arrogant delusional spamming sack of crap - putting your flea bitten program and your friend's program in the same sentence as Silvercash, PlantinumBucks, Lightspeed etc - u ain't shit, you are nothing but a revshare program, you don't do pay per signup - get it straight finally - u are NO better than anybody else with a revshare program - which is about 5,000 webmasters. So get off your high horse and talk to the hand my man - don't be telling anybody whether they should be running a paysite or an affiliate program until you can walk the walk and not just talk the talk.

and i presume this ridiculously pompous post is regarding WEG's announcement that Purecash is being shut down. You ain't fit to shine the shoes of either WEG or Purecash. Purecash shut down because one of the partners who could buy and sell you 100 times over wanted out of adult altogether. that's the end of that story.

if i were Lensman i'd ban you - you and your content company do nothing but spam this board day and night. buy a fucking banner - if you're such a hot program where's your banner? Hmmm..........Silvecash skinned this board, Platinum Bucks skinned this board, Lightspeed has had a banner as long as I've been here, TopBucks the same - oh gee I wonder who's missing from that list of top notch programs you refer to - could it be - oh .......Adult Lounge?


*ouch* :(

Jon2 03-02-2005 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt
ahahaha - you arrogant delusional spamming sack of crap - putting your flea bitten program and your friend's program in the same sentence as Silvercash, PlantinumBucks, Lightspeed etc - u ain't shit, you are nothing but a revshare program, you don't do pay per signup - get it straight finally - u are NO better than anybody else with a revshare program - which is about 5,000 webmasters. So get off your high horse and talk to the hand my man - don't be telling anybody whether they should be running a paysite or an affiliate program until you can walk the walk and not just talk the talk.

and i presume this ridiculously pompous post is regarding WEG's announcement that Purecash is being shut down. You ain't fit to shine the shoes of either WEG or Purecash. Purecash shut down because one of the partners who could buy and sell you 100 times over wanted out of adult altogether. that's the end of that story.

if i were Lensman i'd ban you - you and your content company do nothing but spam this board day and night. buy a fucking banner - if you're such a hot program where's your banner? Hmmm..........Silvecash skinned this board, Platinum Bucks skinned this board, Lightspeed has had a banner as long as I've been here, TopBucks the same - oh gee I wonder who's missing from that list of top notch programs you refer to - could it be - oh .......Adult Lounge?

I was waiting for this...

Thumbs up...

There is several sponsors I can think of off hand that is quite far up there and is not listed there...But he is? hahaha

Jon

Voodoo 03-02-2005 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quiet
:glugglug

:glugglug

zentz 03-02-2005 03:49 AM

i've been promoting other sites for 3 years and i think its time to build my own paysites with aff. program :) i dont plan to make it HUUUGE but what sure is that i will earn much more cash than i would earn by promoting other sites from other aff. programs...

abyss_al 03-02-2005 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Voodoo
:glugglug

:glugglug

Turf 03-02-2005 03:54 AM

traffic is key.. you cannot just sit your ass down and make a fly by paysite and members area.. you have to have understanding of how traffic flows and best of all how to build traffic yourselfs...

remember even with 50/50 revshare you are still giving away half your income - so any sigups you generate yourself will help the business..

I think many new paysite owners forget that... and just try and concentrate on getting joe-no-insite-to-adult to send them traffic..

DarkJedi 03-02-2005 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt
ahahaha - you arrogant delusional spamming sack of crap - putting your flea bitten program and your friend's program in the same sentence as Silvercash, PlantinumBucks, Lightspeed etc - u ain't shit, you are nothing but a revshare program, you don't do pay per signup - get it straight finally - u are NO better than anybody else with a revshare program - which is about 5,000 webmasters. So get off your high horse and talk to the hand my man - don't be telling anybody whether they should be running a paysite or an affiliate program until you can walk the walk and not just talk the talk.

and i presume this ridiculously pompous post is regarding WEG's announcement that Purecash is being shut down. You ain't fit to shine the shoes of either WEG or Purecash. Purecash shut down because one of the partners who could buy and sell you 100 times over wanted out of adult altogether. that's the end of that story.

if i were Lensman i'd ban you - you and your content company do nothing but spam this board day and night. buy a fucking banner - if you're such a hot program where's your banner? Hmmm..........Silvecash skinned this board, Platinum Bucks skinned this board, Lightspeed has had a banner as long as I've been here, TopBucks the same - oh gee I wonder who's missing from that list of top notch programs you refer to - could it be - oh .......Adult Lounge?

ahaha, that was good :glugglug

bigdog 03-02-2005 04:33 AM

no offense rafi but you are a revshare program trying to masquerade as a pps program with that pay per active bullshit

bigdog 03-02-2005 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easton
they try and peddle ripped DVDs

nothing wrong with those if you are going to pps on them, and have cheap or free trials

TheSaint 03-02-2005 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultLoungeRaffi
For instance, many inexperienced new affiliate program owners have no idea on how to be profitable but yet offer high $35 pay per sign up on trials.

Yeah it can be a bear to develop a really good shave engine for those $50 free trials....

VMAN 03-02-2005 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt
ahahaha - you arrogant delusional spamming sack of crap - putting your flea bitten program and your friend's program in the same sentence as Silvercash, PlantinumBucks, Lightspeed etc - u ain't shit, you are nothing but a revshare program, you don't do pay per signup - get it straight finally - u are NO better than anybody else with a revshare program - which is about 5,000 webmasters. So get off your high horse and talk to the hand my man - don't be telling anybody whether they should be running a paysite or an affiliate program until you can walk the walk and not just talk the talk.

and i presume this ridiculously pompous post is regarding WEG's announcement that Purecash is being shut down. You ain't fit to shine the shoes of either WEG or Purecash. Purecash shut down because one of the partners who could buy and sell you 100 times over wanted out of adult altogether. that's the end of that story.

if i were Lensman i'd ban you - you and your content company do nothing but spam this board day and night. buy a fucking banner - if you're such a hot program where's your banner? Hmmm..........Silvecash skinned this board, Platinum Bucks skinned this board, Lightspeed has had a banner as long as I've been here, TopBucks the same - oh gee I wonder who's missing from that list of top notch programs you refer to - could it be - oh .......Adult Lounge?

AMEN!

Dude you nailed it. I can't believe this guy compares his program to these other guys.

bigdog 03-02-2005 08:48 AM

i am waiting to see Raffi's response to this thread

brand0n 03-02-2005 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by European Lee
Already said that see reply #2 above ;)

Regards,

Lee

you are going to be a huge hit the next convention im sure.

BVF 03-02-2005 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt
ahahaha - you arrogant delusional spamming sack of crap -


That whole post was vicious.

Stallion 03-02-2005 09:05 AM

Nice post Mutt :)

mardigras 03-02-2005 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi
ahaha, that was good :glugglug

I'll have one myself:winkwink: :glugglug

Barefootsies 03-02-2005 09:39 AM

1. Poor money management
2. Ridiculous objectives and business model
3. Whole marketing strategy is, "Check out my sig for hot deals" in response to every post..

:pimp

ronaldo 03-02-2005 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies
1. Poor money management
2. Ridiculous objectives and business model
3. Whole marketing strategy is, "Check out my sig for hot deals" in response to every post..

:pimp

Check out my sig for a hot deal on feeds!

Drake 03-02-2005 10:19 AM

Anybody have a link to the purecash closure announcement? Sorry, the search isn't working :(

Jon2 03-02-2005 10:26 AM

Its only a couple pages down Mike33...

This post so fucken backfired...

I guess you were right Raffi...This thread HAS been a interesting one!

Jon

Jon2 03-02-2005 10:30 AM

Purecash Closing Thread Annoucement @ http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=438663

Jon

Drake 03-02-2005 10:36 AM

Thanks very much Jon :)


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