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Reasons Why Affiliate Programs Close Down?

03-01-2005, 07:33 PM

This thread will be an interesting one.

What is your opinion on why affiliate programs close doors?

Here is what i think :

1) Many who start affiliate programs, dont have business experience, degrees or a serious business plan.

2) Some, who start affiliate programs dont think of it as a long term business instead short get rich quick mentality.

3) Many dont have a monthly budget projection or analysis and just spend random.

4) Many new affiliate programs try to compete with companies who have been in business for more than 3 years thinking they can match their offering on commissions and payouts. For instance, many inexperienced new affiliate program owners have no idea on how to be profitable but yet offer high $35 pay per sign up on trials.

I personally think instead of all these new affiliate programs opening up and eventually closing doors, should just work with companies like SilverCash, TopBucks, PlatinumBucks, AdultLounge, SmashBucks, LightSpeed or others who have a long term business plan.

Folks, its not easy to operate a successful affiliate program. Companies like i have mentioned above have experience, quality content, in house staff, funding, and much more....You are better off sending your traffic to them rather than starting your own. Think about it. You can be 50/50 partners with pros...just my 2 cents.

There are more reasons but i think i will leave it to see who can fill in the rest and continue from here.

Post along please :-) this thread will be interesting, educational and informative.

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03-01-2005, 07:34 PM

Stupid Cash.

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03-01-2005, 07:37 PM

The owners blow it all on coke and hookers

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03-01-2005, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by spunky

The owners blow it all on coke and hookers

Already said that see reply #2 above ;)

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03-01-2005, 07:39 PM

I know of many newbies that jump in making paysites without ever learning any of the basics of porn (hell some host with companies that don't accept adult content)
You can't expect those people to succeed.
The lack of money management is a big one too.
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03-01-2005, 07:41 PM

Originally posted by European Lee

Already said that see reply #2 above ;)

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03-01-2005, 07:42 PM

1) Undercapitalization

2) General incompetence

3) Thinking that all you need to do is slap together processing and a lame members area, buy some ads on WM boards and then assuming everyone will drop what they're doing and divert all their traffic to your crappy sites

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03-01-2005, 07:44 PM

Originally posted by DTK

1) Undercapitalization

2) General incompetence

3) Thinking that all you need to do is slap together processing and a lame members area, buy some ads on WM boards and then assuming everyone will drop what they're doing and divert all their traffic to your crappy sites

4) Expecting suckers to buy into the PPS bigger payout is better scam.

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03-01-2005, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by Shoplifter

4) Expecting suckers to buy into the PPS bigger payout is better scam.

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03-01-2005, 07:47 PM

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03-01-2005, 07:47 PM

Nothing orginal.
Paying on free trials.

If you plan to pay on free trials like purecash did. Then you need 90% of the free trials to convert into full to make $$$
If you give them a free trial
They see the same old shit, are they going to buy?

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03-01-2005, 07:49 PM

Originally posted by Shoplifter

4) Expecting suckers to buy into the PPS bigger payout is better scam.

You mean that company that used to offer $70/join just didn't have it all figured out 150% better than everyone else????? You're not going to tell me that the tooth fairy is a lie too are you?

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03-01-2005, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by DTK

You mean that company that used to offer $70/join just didn't have it all figured out 150% better than everyone else????? You're not going to tell me that the tooth fairy is a lie too are you?

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03-01-2005, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by DTK

1) Undercapitalization

2) General incompetence

3) Thinking that all you need to do is slap together processing and a lame members area, buy some ads on WM boards and then assuming everyone will drop what they're doing and divert all their traffic to your crappy sites

I agree 100%... I've been in this game for 5yrs and I don't believe the hype by most of the programs out there
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03-01-2005, 07:58 PM

you guys forgot the top 2 reasons aff prog shut down:

1- SPAM
2- CHARGE BACKS

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03-01-2005, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by abyss_al

you guys forgot the top 2 reasons aff prog shut down:

1- SPAM
2- CHARGE BACKS

Wouldn't those generally qualify under my #2?? ;)

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03-01-2005, 08:12 PM

Originally posted by DTK

Wouldn't those generally qualify under my #2?? ;)

somewhat... they are fully aware of the consiquences, but they do it anyways... they think short term and long term of where they want the company to go

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03-01-2005, 08:32 PM

what I dont understand is why people think becuase a company closes down that people are bad buisnessmen.There are tons of people in the game for the short term goal of getting the money while its good and moving on to other things

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03-01-2005, 08:34 PM

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03-01-2005, 08:36 PM

Interesting thread.

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03-01-2005, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by AdultLoungeRaffi

For instance, many inexperienced new affiliate program owners have no idea on how to be profitable but yet offer high $35 pay per sign up on trials.

How many new affiliate programs (with inexperienced management as you say) have been launched - let's say in the last 12 months - that pay $35 PPS w/ trials?

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03-01-2005, 09:14 PM

Originally posted by AdultLoungeRaffi

I personally think instead of all these new affiliate programs opening up and eventually closing doors, should just work with companies like SilverCash, TopBucks, PlatinumBucks, AdultLounge, SmashBucks, LightSpeed or others who have a long term business plan.

Wow you associate yourself with some heavy hitters.
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03-01-2005, 09:37 PM

There are many more great programs out there than the ones you listed. If your trying to scare anyone you've failed. What decent sized programs have closed down recently? fuck all I can think of. Only Purecash.com recently.

New programs come out all the time and most big ones do well. I certainly know the numbers well for Wildcash.com and can handle paying $25-30 on $1 trials all day long.

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03-02-2005, 12:08 AM

its all about starting slow, putting enough in the bank for unforseen expenses and then putting it back into the business on a well thought out budget. Long term goals with monthly milestones. Smart investments etc.

But you're right.. too many people copy the big programs without building a solid foundation first.
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03-02-2005, 12:22 AM

Originally posted by AdultLoungeRaffi

This thread will be an interesting one.

What is your opinion on why affiliate programs close doors?

Here is what i think :

1) Many who start affiliate programs, dont have business experience, degrees or a serious business plan.

2) Some, who start affiliate programs dont think of it as a long term business instead short get rich quick mentality.

3) Many dont have a monthly budget projection or analysis and just spend random.

4) Many new affiliate programs try to compete with companies who have been in business for more than 3 years thinking they can match their offering on commissions and payouts. For instance, many inexperienced new affiliate program owners have no idea on how to be profitable but yet offer high $35 pay per sign up on trials.

I personally think instead of all these new affiliate programs opening up and eventually closing doors, should just work with companies like SilverCash, TopBucks, PlatinumBucks, AdultLounge, SmashBucks, LightSpeed or others who have a long term business plan.

Folks, its not easy to operate a successful affiliate program. Companies like i have mentioned above have experience, quality content, in house staff, funding, and much more....You are better off sending your traffic to them rather than starting your own. Think about it. You can be 50/50 partners with pros...just my 2 cents.

There are more reasons but i think i will leave it to see who can fill in the rest and continue from here.

Post along please :-) this thread will be interesting, educational and informative.

ahahaha - you arrogant delusional spamming sack of crap - putting your flea bitten program and your friend's program in the same sentence as Silvercash, PlantinumBucks, Lightspeed etc - u ain't shit, you are nothing but a revshare program, you don't do pay per signup - get it straight finally - u are NO better than anybody else with a revshare program - which is about 5,000 webmasters. So get off your high horse and talk to the hand my man - don't be telling anybody whether they should be running a paysite or an affiliate program until you can walk the walk and not just talk the talk.

and i presume this ridiculously pompous post is regarding WEG's announcement that Purecash is being shut down. You ain't fit to shine the shoes of either WEG or Purecash. Purecash shut down because one of the partners who could buy and sell you 100 times over wanted out of adult altogether. that's the end of that story.

if i were Lensman i'd ban you - you and your content company do nothing but spam this board day and night. buy a fucking banner - if you're such a hot program where's your banner? Hmmm..........Silvecash skinned this board, Platinum Bucks skinned this board, Lightspeed has had a banner as long as I've been here, TopBucks the same - oh gee I wonder who's missing from that list of top notch programs you refer to - could it be - oh .......Adult Lounge?

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03-02-2005, 12:51 AM

Not to get off the topic but watch out for March 14th one of the biggest new trends in adult affiliate programs are coming.

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03-02-2005, 01:27 AM

Originally posted by Mutt

ahahaha - you arrogant delusional spamming sack of crap - putting your flea bitten program and your friend's program in the same sentence as Silvercash, PlantinumBucks, Lightspeed etc - u ain't shit, you are nothing but a revshare program, you don't do pay per signup - get it straight finally - u are NO better than anybody else with a revshare program - which is about 5,000 webmasters. So get off your high horse and talk to the hand my man - don't be telling anybody whether they should be running a paysite or an affiliate program until you can walk the walk and not just talk the talk.

and i presume this ridiculously pompous post is regarding WEG's announcement that Purecash is being shut down. You ain't fit to shine the shoes of either WEG or Purecash. Purecash shut down because one of the partners who could buy and sell you 100 times over wanted out of adult altogether. that's the end of that story.

if i were Lensman i'd ban you - you and your content company do nothing but spam this board day and night. buy a fucking banner - if you're such a hot program where's your banner? Hmmm..........Silvecash skinned this board, Platinum Bucks skinned this board, Lightspeed has had a banner as long as I've been here, TopBucks the same - oh gee I wonder who's missing from that list of top notch programs you refer to - could it be - oh .......Adult Lounge?

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03-02-2005, 01:40 AM

Originally posted by Mutt

ahahaha - you arrogant delusional spamming sack of crap - putting your flea bitten program and your friend's program in the same sentence as Silvercash, PlantinumBucks, Lightspeed etc - u ain't shit, you are nothing but a revshare program, you don't do pay per signup - get it straight finally - u are NO better than anybody else with a revshare program - which is about 5,000 webmasters. So get off your high horse and talk to the hand my man - don't be telling anybody whether they should be running a paysite or an affiliate program until you can walk the walk and not just talk the talk.

and i presume this ridiculously pompous post is regarding WEG's announcement that Purecash is being shut down. You ain't fit to shine the shoes of either WEG or Purecash. Purecash shut down because one of the partners who could buy and sell you 100 times over wanted out of adult altogether. that's the end of that story.

if i were Lensman i'd ban you - you and your content company do nothing but spam this board day and night. buy a fucking banner - if you're such a hot program where's your banner? Hmmm..........Silvecash skinned this board, Platinum Bucks skinned this board, Lightspeed has had a banner as long as I've been here, TopBucks the same - oh gee I wonder who's missing from that list of top notch programs you refer to - could it be - oh .......Adult Lounge?

I was waiting for this...

Thumbs up...

There is several sponsors I can think of off hand that is quite far up there and is not listed there...But he is? hahaha

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03-02-2005, 01:47 AM

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03-02-2005, 01:49 AM

i've been promoting other sites for 3 years and i think its time to build my own paysites with aff. program i dont plan to make it HUUUGE but what sure is that i will earn much more cash than i would earn by promoting other sites from other aff. programs...

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03-02-2005, 01:49 AM

Originally posted by Voodoo

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03-02-2005, 01:54 AM

traffic is key.. you cannot just sit your ass down and make a fly by paysite and members area.. you have to have understanding of how traffic flows and best of all how to build traffic yourselfs...

remember even with 50/50 revshare you are still giving away half your income - so any sigups you generate yourself will help the business..

I think many new paysite owners forget that... and just try and concentrate on getting joe-no-insite-to-adult to send them traffic..

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03-02-2005, 02:15 AM

Originally posted by Mutt

ahahaha - you arrogant delusional spamming sack of crap - putting your flea bitten program and your friend's program in the same sentence as Silvercash, PlantinumBucks, Lightspeed etc - u ain't shit, you are nothing but a revshare program, you don't do pay per signup - get it straight finally - u are NO better than anybody else with a revshare program - which is about 5,000 webmasters. So get off your high horse and talk to the hand my man - don't be telling anybody whether they should be running a paysite or an affiliate program until you can walk the walk and not just talk the talk.

and i presume this ridiculously pompous post is regarding WEG's announcement that Purecash is being shut down. You ain't fit to shine the shoes of either WEG or Purecash. Purecash shut down because one of the partners who could buy and sell you 100 times over wanted out of adult altogether. that's the end of that story.

if i were Lensman i'd ban you - you and your content company do nothing but spam this board day and night. buy a fucking banner - if you're such a hot program where's your banner? Hmmm..........Silvecash skinned this board, Platinum Bucks skinned this board, Lightspeed has had a banner as long as I've been here, TopBucks the same - oh gee I wonder who's missing from that list of top notch programs you refer to - could it be - oh .......Adult Lounge?

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03-02-2005, 02:33 AM

no offense rafi but you are a revshare program trying to masquerade as a pps program with that pay per active bullshit
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03-02-2005, 02:35 AM

Originally posted by Easton

they try and peddle ripped DVDs

nothing wrong with those if you are going to pps on them, and have cheap or free trials
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03-02-2005, 05:06 AM

Originally posted by AdultLoungeRaffi

For instance, many inexperienced new affiliate program owners have no idea on how to be profitable but yet offer high $35 pay per sign up on trials.

Yeah it can be a bear to develop a really good shave engine for those $50 free trials....

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03-02-2005, 06:34 AM

Originally posted by Mutt

ahahaha - you arrogant delusional spamming sack of crap - putting your flea bitten program and your friend's program in the same sentence as Silvercash, PlantinumBucks, Lightspeed etc - u ain't shit, you are nothing but a revshare program, you don't do pay per signup - get it straight finally - u are NO better than anybody else with a revshare program - which is about 5,000 webmasters. So get off your high horse and talk to the hand my man - don't be telling anybody whether they should be running a paysite or an affiliate program until you can walk the walk and not just talk the talk.

and i presume this ridiculously pompous post is regarding WEG's announcement that Purecash is being shut down. You ain't fit to shine the shoes of either WEG or Purecash. Purecash shut down because one of the partners who could buy and sell you 100 times over wanted out of adult altogether. that's the end of that story.

if i were Lensman i'd ban you - you and your content company do nothing but spam this board day and night. buy a fucking banner - if you're such a hot program where's your banner? Hmmm..........Silvecash skinned this board, Platinum Bucks skinned this board, Lightspeed has had a banner as long as I've been here, TopBucks the same - oh gee I wonder who's missing from that list of top notch programs you refer to - could it be - oh .......Adult Lounge?

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03-02-2005, 06:48 AM

i am waiting to see Raffi's response to this thread
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03-02-2005, 06:56 AM

Originally posted by European Lee

Already said that see reply #2 above ;)

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03-02-2005, 06:57 AM

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ahahaha - you arrogant delusional spamming sack of crap -

That whole post was vicious.

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03-02-2005, 07:05 AM

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03-02-2005, 07:29 AM

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03-02-2005, 07:39 AM

1. Poor money management
2. Ridiculous objectives and business model
3. Whole marketing strategy is, "Check out my sig for hot deals" in response to every post..

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03-02-2005, 07:48 AM

Originally posted by Barefootsies

1. Poor money management
2. Ridiculous objectives and business model
3. Whole marketing strategy is, "Check out my sig for hot deals" in response to every post..

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03-02-2005, 08:19 AM

Anybody have a link to the purecash closure announcement? Sorry, the search isn't working
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03-02-2005, 08:26 AM

Its only a couple pages down Mike33...

This post so fucken backfired...

I guess you were right Raffi...This thread HAS been a interesting one!

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03-02-2005, 08:30 AM

Purecash Closing Thread Annoucement @ http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=438663

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03-02-2005, 08:36 AM

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