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PrivateIvy 02-03-2005 09:30 PM

Scamming Affiliate - Paysite owners beware...a PrivateIvy rant !!
 
Maybe I'm just venting , and then again maybe someone knows who this guy is or if you recognize his info you can avoid having this done to you.

Jan 3rd new affiliate signs up to one of my programs. Over the next week he sends about 100 uniques per day and gets 1 $89.95 signup per day for 6 days straight, which is when I started wondering and checked into how much traffic he was sending and from where.

Of course I found that all the $89.95 signups were with Checks, and all using a hotmail address though they were all different info .

Long story short, this fucker caused a total of $624.55 in returned check signups which were deducted from my check this week :mad:

So here's to Mr Francis Beaulieu or Mr Orland Robles who owns www.YoungTeenTGP.Net and sends traffic from www.YoungTeenTGP.Net/real :321GFY :321GFY

his email addresses if valid are: [email protected] and [email protected] so please feel free to share as many emails with him for viagra, mortgage rates, cialis, or add him to your site newsletters and well...you get the point :thumbsup

Thanks for letting me rant :winkwink:

Ivy

SquirtingCarly 02-03-2005 09:39 PM

Wow, Ivy that sucks thanks for putting the word out.

Doctor Dre 02-03-2005 09:42 PM

This name remind me something ... weird

PrivateIvy 02-03-2005 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre
This name remind me something ... weird


Alright, Spill it..... :Oh crap


Ivy

WWC 02-03-2005 09:45 PM

Sucks...who do you use for online checks processing? Dont they recongnize and evaluate sales for you?

ps; thanks for the heads up

PrivateIvy 02-03-2005 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultLoungeRaffi
Sucks...who do you use for online checks processing? Dont they recongnize and evaluate sales for you?

ps; thanks for the heads up

I use CCBill. When he sent the 3rd $89.95 signup with only 300 uniques and no other signup types, I called them to have them check into it. They said it all looked fine at that point. So then when it continued again for the next few days I called again and they finally put a stop to it.

I hope like hell they didn't pay this fucker out on it and that they closed his ccbill affiliate account :mad:


Ivy

BV 02-03-2005 09:50 PM

it's not smart to have an 89.95 option available. ESPECIALLY on credit card transactions

NaughtyAllie 02-03-2005 09:54 PM

Sorry to hear that Ivy. :(
Kick his ass! :mad:

newbreed 02-03-2005 10:12 PM

Thanks for the heads up Ivy, looking to see if he is on our program now.

beemk 02-03-2005 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV
it's not smart to have an 89.95 option available. ESPECIALLY on credit card transactions

why not? is it easier to charge back?

BVF 02-03-2005 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV
it's not smart to have an 89.95 option available. ESPECIALLY on credit card transactions

naw man. I have a 99.95 option and I love it when I get one. The ONLY way to have such a high transaction should be by a credit card that was thoroughly scrubbed by ccbill. Shit like what happened to Ivy can happen but shit happens. I haven't had any problems with them and they are just as legit as the base price sales.

Top Jimmy 02-03-2005 10:26 PM

I worked with the FBI on a carding operation being run through one of my programs. Pretty wild how good they are at finding people. :)

You should contact them. They may help.

In my case it was a huge amount of fraud, and it was stolen cards, so the FBI was glad to help.

PrivateIvy 02-03-2005 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV
it's not smart to have an 89.95 option available. ESPECIALLY on credit card transactions

hmm...never heard that one before. 3 of my sites do very well with that option. Just because a dishonest webmaster screwed it up this time , I don't think I should change join options that are converting well on my sites...


:2 cents:


Ivy

camcutie 02-03-2005 10:31 PM

Happened to me a few time out of Russia. The Russian affiliate was signing up with stolen credit cards and stolen checks and 75% of them were charging back within a week or two. After the third time instead of cancelling the account I just set his percentage to 0%. I'm sure he didn't like that..... :1orglaugh

XOXOXO
*Krystal*

pxxx 02-03-2005 10:37 PM

That sucks Ivy, got the email addys. ;)

PrivateIvy 02-03-2005 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camcutie
Happened to me a few time out of Russia. The Russian affiliate was signing up with stolen credit cards and stolen checks and 75% of them were charging back within a week or two. After the third time instead of cancelling the account I just set his percentage to 0%. I'm sure he didn't like that..... :1orglaugh

XOXOXO
*Krystal*

Well if you only reset his percentage then he wouldn't get charged back when you did and you'd still have all the bogus signups...correct ? :Oh crap


Ivy

PrivateIvy 02-03-2005 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pxxx
That sucks Ivy, got the email addys. ;)


Hey, he has his home address listed on yahoo !!! LMFAO

Orlando Robles

2 Oakview Ter
Jamaica Plain, MA 02130-4902 (map)

Tel.: (617) 983-1489 (call this number)


( http://phone.people.yahoo.com/py/lg:...one=6179831489 )

Anybody local to him, feel free to stop by for me :-


Ivy

Spunky 02-03-2005 10:40 PM

Another day ...another scamming weasel :mad:

NaughtyRob 02-03-2005 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrivateIvy
Hey, he has his home address listed on yahoo !!! LMFAO

Orlando Robles

2 Oakview Ter
Jamaica Plain, MA 02130-4902 (map)

Tel.: (617) 983-1489 (call this number)


( http://phone.people.yahoo.com/py/lg:...one=6179831489 )

Anybody local to him, feel free to stop by for me :-


Ivy


Bump for Ivy.
This sucks.
:mad:

dcortez 02-03-2005 11:12 PM

Checks are tricky business.

I have two check options: 29.95 and 59.95 and I risk manage all check signups.

Statistically, good check signups go for the 29.95 and bad check signups go for the $59.95 - it's a great filter. Theives are greedy.

-Dino

Jace 02-03-2005 11:12 PM

haha, that would be great if someone went to his house!

camcutie 02-03-2005 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrivateIvy
Well if you only reset his percentage then he wouldn't get charged back when you did and you'd still have all the bogus signups...correct ? :Oh crap


Ivy

The first two times the guy signed up as an affiliate I cancelled him but he would just sign back up... So the third time instead of cancelling him I just made his precentage 0 and he stopped signing up..... therefore the stolen cards stopped as well. :)
XOXOXO,
*Krystal*

Rui 02-04-2005 04:02 AM

That totally sucks, what are you going to do besides inform us all (and thank you for that)?

PrivateIvy 02-04-2005 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rui
That totally sucks, what are you going to do besides inform us all (and thank you for that)?


Well, not sure there is anything I can do, so posting a good rant just made me feel better LOL :helpme


Ivy

Extreme Nate 02-04-2005 06:41 AM

Thanks for the heads up on that fucker Ivy

TurboAngel 02-04-2005 07:03 AM

Shit that suck's big time.


:(

Cassie 02-04-2005 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrivateIvy
hmm...never heard that one before. 3 of my sites do very well with that option. Just because a dishonest webmaster screwed it up this time , I don't think I should change join options that are converting well on my sites...


:2 cents:


Ivy


agreed :thumbsup

tranza 02-04-2005 07:33 AM

Did you pay him?

If not I don't get why you're so mad...

Cassie 02-04-2005 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza
Did you pay him?

If not I don't get why you're so mad...


you can't be serious with this question! :disgust

Pete-KT 02-04-2005 07:50 AM

Ivy I icq'ed you can you please reply

Dalai lama 02-04-2005 07:55 AM

what a scam

Furious_Male 02-04-2005 08:26 AM

Its good you were smart enough to catch it when you did.

I am just an affiliate so I am not sure how this works. It appears you have his info. If it is indeed correct do you have any legal options? Or is it simply not worth chasing?

ChefJeff 02-04-2005 08:39 AM

Way to be on top of things... so to speak

CoreAdult-Dee 02-04-2005 08:49 AM

Wow Ivy that sucks. Good thing is though you keep on top of things and are always checking into things when you have suspect something. Lord knows how long it would have gone on if you had not been on the ball

keyboard warrior 02-04-2005 08:54 AM

i had one guy send about 3k in cc and all were fake a shit load of charge backs.

andrej_NDC 02-04-2005 09:05 AM

Checks are available only for US surfers and everybody with money in US have a cc in my opinion. Mostly frauders pay by checks. Now somebody will tell, that his check sales are 20%+ of his income, but fact is, check option means less cc sales and many checks are returned...

PrivateIvy 02-04-2005 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete-KT
Ivy I icq'ed you can you please reply

Hey:) Sorry, wasn't signed on, I'm back now :winkwink:



Ivy

Vanilla DeVille 02-04-2005 09:15 AM

Thanks for the heads up, Ivy... that's fucked up!

SinBucks 02-04-2005 09:28 AM

Awesome heads up! I already added the name, and email to my blacklist!

hydro 02-04-2005 09:45 AM

man i hate all these affiliates using other people's checks and credit cards, if you have any ip's or payment info submit it to his local police and they can get it done faster than if you contacted the fbi or secret service

JFK 02-04-2005 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrivateIvy
Well, not sure there is anything I can do, so posting a good rant just made me feel better LOL :helpme


Ivy

Sorry to hear that Ivy............ But I guess you feel better now :winkwink:

goBigtime 02-04-2005 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrivateIvy
Hey, he has his home address listed on yahoo !!! LMFAO


Eww... bad post.

My attorney would freak the fuck out :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

TheDoc 02-04-2005 10:09 AM

Here are some others to make sure you don't have... All credit card fraud

Mikhailouskaya Natalia (BE)
[email protected]

Natalia Mikhailouskaya (BE)
[email protected]

Aron Feher (CA)
[email protected]

Alexei Trebounskikh (CA)
[email protected]

Dmytro Glyeba (CA)
[email protected]

Natalia Cameanaia (CA)
[email protected]

PrivateIvy 02-04-2005 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoreAdult-Dee
Wow Ivy that sucks. Good thing is though you keep on top of things and are always checking into things when you have suspect something. Lord knows how long it would have gone on if you had not been on the ball


thanks girl!! Yea...that's a scary thought :(


Ivy

PrivateIvy 02-04-2005 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goBigtime
Eww... bad post.

My attorney would freak the fuck out :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


Not really since it is public information available on yahoo :-



Ivy

iBanker 02-04-2005 10:17 AM

Yeah, checks can be problematic like that. Here is how we solved it:

We process through WTS and EC. I was noticing more of sufer abuse, than affiliate abuse. Surfers were signing up WITH checks and info like email address:

asddfghjk [email protected]

Now I think we all know this can't be a valid email address, Right? Well, I had to explain to the guys at another check processor that an email address cant have a space in it, nor is ".ccc" a properending. After about 5 minutes of arguing with her, she informed me that I was prolly wrong, and "this kind of thing happens". I then asked her to look up the name of that person signing up. Here is is:

adsf8d oi (or something to that effect)

Nice scrubbing you sons of bitches. I won the argument, switched the Check Processing, and now require a return email. Sales stayed about the same and I eliminated about 95% of the crap signups.

Doctor Dre 02-04-2005 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrivateIvy
Alright, Spill it..... :Oh crap


Ivy

I dunno ... just reminds me something but I can't really tell what exactly ... I heard it b4

Doctor Dre 02-04-2005 10:20 AM

Somebody left him a nice message on his answering machine

PrivateIvy 02-04-2005 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre
Somebody left him a nice message on his answering machine


WOOT !!!

Goody, Goody .... my evil horns are starting to show now :drinkup

hehehe


Ivy

goBigtime 02-04-2005 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrivateIvy
Not really since it is public information available on yahoo :-

Ivy

No really. He would.

Especially if I linked to the guys site in this thread (that he might stumble upon in his ref logs).

Anyway, just trying to offer a friendly suggestion to CYA during rants where you are being recorded forever.


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