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pussyluver 01-06-2005 08:57 AM

Content "Theft" Site
 
Have you been Fuskered? It is a site that will grab your art (images) and display them with out links to your advertising. All you get is the tag on the image if you put one there.

They can grab your whole gallery (or file of art) and place the images in a slide show for their surfers all on your bandwidth. Again without reference to or link to your sponsor or you if you're the sponsor.

This is in obvious violation to license agreements with many sponsors on use of their art. You've got the gest or it. Not the first site to come along with this.

Whether you can really call this theft is open for debate. Google links to images, but......

A simple demand email removed my links from their site:

http://fusker.lewww.com/

DutchTeenCash 01-06-2005 08:59 AM

yeah right and the other zillion clones they run ? wanna see our fusker logs ?

DutchTeenCash 01-06-2005 09:03 AM

reqs: URL
-----: ---
31969: http://fusker.lewww.com/index.php
2999: http://fusker.lewww.com/index.php?lid=436636
1668: http://fusker.lewww.com/index.php?li...etnaturalgirl&
1629: http://fusker.lewww.com/index.php?lid=310121
1368: http://fusker.lewww.com/index.php?lid=436636&offset=150
1013: http://fusker.lewww.com/index.php?li...query=natural&
859: http://fusker.lewww.com/index.php?li...etnaturalgirl&
725: http://fusker.lewww.com/index.php?li...etnaturalgirl&
713: http://fusker.lewww.com/index.php?lid=436636&offset=90
671: http://fusker.lewww.com/index.php?li...query=natural&
612: http://fusker.lewww.com/index.php?lid=436636&offset=180
484: http://fusker.lewww.com/index.php?lid=436636&offset=240
462: http://fusker.lewww.com/index.php?lid=436636&offset=60

etc etc etc

DEA - banned for life 01-06-2005 09:04 AM

Good luck fighting that uphill battle :thumbsup

pussyluver 01-06-2005 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEA
Good luck fighting that uphill battle :thumbsup

They removed mine overnight. Of course I was very direct and to the point.

You can play with htaccess to block them of course...

pussyluver 01-06-2005 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkx

Sucks and could be worse. I didn't look at them, but if there is sponsor art in there, ask your sponsor to help. Someone like Nasty Dollars could make hell for them if they wanted to.

If they are not self hosting advising their host can bring them down.. Just need to word you request correctly.

digifan 01-06-2005 09:13 AM

At least they remove yours asap when you email them.. but here is this site using more than 6,000 galleries and stealing your bandwidth: http://www.usefulidiot.com grr.

pussyluver 01-06-2005 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digifan
At least they remove yours asap when you email them.. but here is this site using more than 6,000 galleries and stealing your bandwidth: http://www.usefulidiot.com grr.

A quick search using their search function didn't reveal any of mind (YET)!

I watch my stats for bandwidth leaks. So I'll catch the real big ones I hope. If a techie, say someone with the power of smokie comes along, well I'm screwed.

If they want to direct link and show the ads with the content, that's great and I'll take the backlink too.

Any others that are a pain to anyone. Let's get them out in the open here. I'm willing to spend time causing grief to the assholes.

fris 01-06-2005 09:43 AM

fusker has been around for a while www.fusker.com they provider the software to setup your own fusker. there are plenty of fuskers out there.

pussyluver 01-06-2005 09:45 AM

You can use htaccess to block use of art except if it is accessed through your site. That creats a couple of concerns. The first is googlebot.

The second concern is how you use htaccess. It may mean a htaccess file in every gallery to be most effective?? Any suggestions?

nick3131 01-06-2005 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyluver
You can use htaccess to block use of art except if it is accessed through your site. That creats a couple of concerns. The first is googlebot.

The second concern is how you use htaccess. It may mean a htaccess file in every gallery to be most effective?? Any suggestions?

You could build a firewall specifically for his/their ips. And disallow access.

xclusive 01-06-2005 09:47 AM

That is some fucked up shit

pussyluver 01-06-2005 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris
fusker has been around for a while www.fusker.com they provider the software to setup your own fusker. there are plenty of fuskers out there.

I had seen sites like them before, but it has been awhile since I found one taking significant bandwidth for me to catch.

Maybe its time to determine how to block fuskers without hurting googlebot or the other spiders crawling for SERP placement.

Could add the IPs to the firewall.

pussyluver 01-06-2005 09:50 AM

:thumbsup Have a firewall in place. I can use it. I also fucked it up once and brought my server down. That made me an IDIOT that day. Sleazy was right once.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nick3131
You could build a firewall specifically for his/their ips. And disallow access.


some_idiot 01-06-2005 10:01 AM

I always run a top level htaccess that sends Fusker and known clones
to an image that informs the user of a URL where they can access
the images they want in a legitimate way.

If you are not smart enough to protect from such things, then you
are in the wrong segment of this business.

pussyluver 01-06-2005 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by some_idiot
I always run a top level htaccess that sends Fusker and known clones
to an image that informs the user of a URL where they can access
the images they want in a legitimate way.

If you are not smart enough to protect from such things, then you
are in the wrong segment of this business.


Good point.

I just removed a lenghty htaccess worried that I had something in it that messed with google bot. Lost SERPs big time last index.

May I point out that there are tons of people around that don't know jack about htacess files etc. that are making coin in the biz. They just wing it until they make enough to hire someone that does.

digifan 01-06-2005 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by some_idiot
I always run a top level htaccess that sends Fusker and known clones
to an image that informs the user of a URL where they can access
the images they want in a legitimate way.

If you are not smart enough to protect from such things, then you
are in the wrong segment of this business.

I wrote my first .htaccess file which worked just fine then two programmer friends tried to help me out and this idiot always found his way visiting the tgps and posting the links to my big pics. :Oh crap

pussyluver 01-06-2005 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyluver
Good point.

I just removed a lenghty htaccess worried that I had something in it that messed with google bot. Lost SERPs big time last index.

May I point out that there are tons of people around that don't know jack about htacess files etc. that are making coin in the biz. They just wing it until they make enough to hire someone that does.


removal of that htaccess file prolly earned me the placement with fusker. I need to study all more and add something I am sure of back. One could make a whole career of just htaccess BTW.

fusionx 01-06-2005 11:09 AM

This will block any referring site with "fusker" in the domain string.

RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} .*fusker*.*$ [NC]
RewriteRule .*\.(gif|jpg|jpeg|bmp|png)$ - [F,NC]

If you want to return a specific image in it's place, use

RewriteRule .* http://www.whoever.com/your_hotlink_dir/hotlink.jpg [F,R]

I'd use a watermarked image promoting your site. Don't waste bandwidth by using goatse or whatever. I prefer to just drop the request.

Note: on some servers, .* needs to be (.*)

not sure why yet..

brand0n 01-06-2005 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fusionx
This will block any referring site with "fusker" in the domain string.

RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} .*fusker*.*$ [NC]
RewriteRule .*\.(gif|jpg|jpeg|bmp|png)$ - [F,NC]

If you want to return a specific image in it's place, use

RewriteRule .* http://www.whoever.com/your_hotlink_dir/hotlink.jpg [F,R]

I'd use a watermarked image promoting your site. Don't waste bandwidth by using goatse or whatever. I prefer to just drop the request.

Note: on some servers, .* needs to be (.*)

not sure why yet..

hey thats cool. adding that now.

johnnyhey 01-06-2005 11:55 AM

me too
 
i've added this

RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*fukser\.com.*$
RewriteRule /* http://www.candydreams.com [R,L]

dcortez 01-06-2005 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyluver
You can use htaccess to block use of art except if it is accessed through your site. That creats a couple of concerns. The first is googlebot.

The second concern is how you use htaccess. It may mean a htaccess file in every gallery to be most effective?? Any suggestions?

Googlebot has known IP addresses - you can allow them in your htaccess

-Dino

digifan 01-06-2005 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyhey
i've added this

RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*fukser\.com.*$
RewriteRule /* http://www.candydreams.com [R,L]

Typo.. not fukser, fusker
:2 cents:

nudecanada 01-06-2005 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fusionx
This will block any referring site with "fusker" in the domain string.

RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} .*fusker*.*$ [NC]
RewriteRule .*\.(gif|jpg|jpeg|bmp|png)$ - [F,NC]

If you want to return a specific image in it's place, use

RewriteRule .* http://www.whoever.com/your_hotlink_dir/hotlink.jpg [F,R]

I'd use a watermarked image promoting your site. Don't waste bandwidth by using goatse or whatever. I prefer to just drop the request.

Note: on some servers, .* needs to be (.*)

not sure why yet..

Thanks for posting that! :thumbsup

Now how could you set that up so it blocks fusker, and say other sites as well such as url's that have "yahoo" in the referrer string?

dcortez 01-06-2005 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyluver
I just removed a lenghty htaccess worried that I had something in it that messed with google bot. Lost SERPs big time last index.

It's highly probable that your google drop was unrelated to your htaccess.

The entire web got knocked down many notches in SERPs and the verdict is not out yet on what happened (except for a vague concensus that google changed its algo).

Most are waiting for the next update to see if we need to change anything or if g will put its head on straight again (many surfers are complaining about useless search results after this last change - mainstream and adult).

-Dino

sean416 01-06-2005 01:01 PM

shitty deal, but this aint the only site doing that

fusionx 01-06-2005 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyhey
i've added this

RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*fukser\.com.*$
RewriteRule /* http://www.candydreams.com [R,L]

^.*fukser\.com.*$ is bad.

What if the fuskering site is actually called www.fusker.mysite.com, or fusker.mysite.com? Yours will only work for an actual *fusker.com.

Also, the "beginning of string character" - the "^" - isn't stricly needed. if you include it, apache will evaluate it. For a referer string, it's not needed - it will always use the "beginning" of a referrer string unless you tell it not to. The same goes for the "end of string" - the "$". I left it in mine - no sure why :)

fusionx 01-06-2005 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nudecanada
Thanks for posting that! :thumbsup

Now how could you set that up so it blocks fusker, and say other sites as well such as url's that have "yahoo" in the referrer string?

Simply add another RewriteCond line using "yahoo":


RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} .*fusker*.*$ [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} .*yahoo*.*$ [NC]
RewriteRule .*\.(gif|jpg|jpeg|bmp|png)$ - [F,NC]

MattO 01-06-2005 01:21 PM

Each page on Fusker has this:

If this fusker contains illegal content please use this link to report it.
If ALL the images in this fusker are broken please use this link to report it.


When you click it, it kills that page. A confirm window pops up for you to click, my question is, how can I automate clicking that button? I can write up the code to scroll through the fusker listings but how do I autosubmit it?
I'd like to set a script to run every hour and wipe out their listings.

fusionx 01-06-2005 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattO
Each page on Fusker has this:

If this fusker contains illegal content please use this link to report it.
If ALL the images in this fusker are broken please use this link to report it.


When you click it, it kills that page. A confirm window pops up for you to click, my question is, how can I automate clicking that button? I can write up the code to scroll through the fusker listings but how do I autosubmit it?
I'd like to set a script to run every hour and wipe out their listings.

You would need to look at the source of the page with the link, find the target, then build a get routine to fake "click" that link. If you are using wget or a scripting language, you should be able to trap the "popup", since there is no window. You should be able to mimic the post operation, unless they add some kind of verification token to the post submission.

fusionx 01-06-2005 01:39 PM

I just pulled the 'broken' link from a perl command line prog. here's the code in the popup - really easy to post the contents back:

Code:

<body>

        <form  class="pop" method=hahahahahaha action="http://fusker.lewww.com/moderat
ion/pre_call_moderation.php">
                Are all of the links in this fusker broken? <br /><br />
        <input type="radio" name="is_broken" value="1" onClick="this.form.submit
()">Yes, they are ALL BROKEN<br /><br />
        <input type="radio" name="is_broken" value="0" onClick="this.form.submit
()">No, they are NOT all broken<br />
        <input type=hidden name="do" value="broken">

<input type=hidden name="lid" value="440211">
</form>
<center><form><input value='Close' type='button' class='button' onclick='javascr
ipt:window.close();' /></form></center>

Simply post "is_broken=1" and "lid=link_id_value" back to http://fusker.lewww.com/moderat
ion/pre_call_moderation.php

pussyluver 01-06-2005 01:45 PM

Appreciate the info on htaccess for those that offered examples. Word to the wise for those of short of guru status. htaccess command results vary from server to server. Slight syntax chnage can make a big difference.

Suggest taking time to understand exactly what's going on with your particular server.

Seems easier to block them as they become known with your firewall. Problem is is there is software out there that loads on the surfers PC. So that would be the requesting IP. Obvious mess.

I was dumb and happy with my htaccess file I had in place. I picked it in part from a board and then studied each command and readup on htaccess. Didn't have a problem that I knew of anyway until I pulled the htaccess file. Then I found the fusker leak in fairly short time. Pulled it casue I lost serps and was worried that maybe it had something to do with googlebot and my htaccess file. It was a concern from day one to be honest, but all was going fine for along time.

All kinds of reasons to lose SERPs. So when that happens like it did, you look at everything and try to get rid of everything that could be a problem.

My fear is blocking the SE spiders... Sure google IPs are known. BUT ya have to keep up with changes. Then there is the rest of the SEs.

MattO 01-06-2005 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fusionx
I just pulled the 'broken' link from a perl command line prog. here's the code in the popup - really easy to post the contents back:

Code:

<body>

        <form  class="pop" method=hahahahahaha action="http://fusker.lewww.com/moderat
ion/pre_call_moderation.php">
                Are all of the links in this fusker broken? <br /><br />
        <input type="radio" name="is_broken" value="1" onClick="this.form.submit
()">Yes, they are ALL BROKEN<br /><br />
        <input type="radio" name="is_broken" value="0" onClick="this.form.submit
()">No, they are NOT all broken<br />
        <input type=hidden name="do" value="broken">

<input type=hidden name="lid" value="440211">
</form>
<center><form><input value='Close' type='button' class='button' onclick='javascr
ipt:window.close();' /></form></center>

Simply post "is_broken=1" and "lid=link_id_value" back to http://fusker.lewww.com/moderat
ion/pre_call_moderation.php

cool I was just working on taking apart the source. I've got it setup to have an autosubmit in tiny frames. Real simple, but I couldn't figure out how to automatically submit each form. Think I have it working now. Doing it in ColdFusion, which makes a loop real easy.

AgentCash 01-06-2005 01:55 PM

http://agentcash.com/gfy/scripts/fusker.htm

Doesn't look like it autodeletes though.

SmokeyTheBear 01-06-2005 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattO
cool I was just working on taking apart the source. I've got it setup to have an autosubmit in tiny frames. Real simple, but I couldn't figure out how to automatically submit each form. Think I have it working now. Doing it in ColdFusion, which makes a loop real easy.

dont worry i already got a bot running it. should be empty by tomorrow :) unless they ban ip's after a few submits or something..

MattO 01-06-2005 03:03 PM

Good deal I used that javer code and looks like it's working. Here's a screencap of 100 fuskers getting axed at a time, if anyone wants the code, I'll post it (It uses ColdFusion)
http://www.kaporn.com/fusk.jpg


Edit: didn't see your post there Smokey, I guess we'll be doubleteaming then

pussyluver 01-06-2005 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
dont worry i already got a bot running it. should be empty by tomorrow :) unless they ban ip's after a few submits or something..

:thumbsup

SmokeyTheBear 01-06-2005 03:09 PM

I just built a vb socks program to repeat hit the delete url.

DomBuyer 01-06-2005 03:12 PM

Useful idiot is starting to get blocked, which is sad because I'm really enjoying all that free porn :)

SmokeyTheBear 01-06-2005 03:14 PM

lol i think your hitting it to hard with yours because its only getting 1 out of every 3 thru for me * must be server busy :) or its just taking awhile to refresh..

Maybe ill let you delete the database and ill run the bot to keep any new posts out

pussyluver 01-06-2005 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcortez
It's highly probable that your google drop was unrelated to your htaccess.

The entire web got knocked down many notches in SERPs and the verdict is not out yet on what happened (except for a vague concensus that google changed its algo).

Most are waiting for the next update to see if we need to change anything or if g will put its head on straight again (many surfers are complaining about useless search results after this last change - mainstream and adult).

-Dino

I really took it bad! They can reindex today and I'd be happy!!! I was enjoying some good traffic from google. Lesson is make sure you have quality traffic from many different sources. Bookmarks look good and help, but these are people lookin for free porn and don't convert well IMO. That's the reason for webcam, pills and dating sites - something different they won't get for free.

MattO 01-06-2005 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
lol i think your hitting it to hard with yours because its only getting 1 out of every 3 thru for me * must be server busy :) or its just taking awhile to refresh..

Maybe ill let you delete the database and ill run the bot to keep any new posts out


sounds good I'll just wipe it clean then hee hee

fusionx 01-06-2005 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattO
Good deal I used that javer code and looks like it's working. Here's a screencap of 100 fuskers getting axed at a time, if anyone wants the code, I'll post it (It uses ColdFusion)
Edit: didn't see your post there Smokey, I guess we'll be doubleteaming then

Sweet!

Where in St. Pete are you? I moved from there about 5 months ago. Used to hang out at the Rare Olive downtown all the time.

digifan 01-06-2005 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AgentCash
http://agentcash.com/gfy/scripts/fusker.htm

Doesn't look like it autodeletes though.

Wow it does... and way fast
:thumbsup

digifan 01-06-2005 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
dont worry i already got a bot running it. should be empty by tomorrow :) unless they ban ip's after a few submits or something..

Smokey, you are a gem.. and a genius :) :thumbsup

digifan 01-06-2005 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomBuyer
Useful idiot is starting to get blocked, which is sad because I'm really enjoying all that free porn :)

Tell me please that you are kidding.. he was harvesting the big tgps only. And are you sure he is starting to get blocked? Woohoo :)

MattO 01-06-2005 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fusionx
Sweet!

Where in St. Pete are you? I moved from there about 5 months ago. Used to hang out at the Rare Olive downtown all the time.


I live in Gulfport now, but I used to live above the Rare Olive up on the top floor. Actually there wasn't anything in that spot then, it was empty. That was 93-95. If I go downtown I usually end up at the State, I get to go to the shows for free since I maintain their websites.

digifan 01-06-2005 03:44 PM

http://babes.usefulidiot.com/ "Currently listing 10895 galleries. Not Seeing what you want? Use Random."

Here is the thread I started about him btw:
http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=399613

digifan 01-06-2005 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digifan
http://babes.usefulidiot.com/ "Currently listing 10895 galleries. Not Seeing what you want? Use Random."

Here is the thread I started about him btw:
http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=399613

Anyone cares to reply?

AgentCash 01-06-2005 04:22 PM

Not much can be done about the smart ones beyond using sessions to verify if they are allowed to view content, instead of the http referrer.

pornolizer.org tells the surfers to turn off referrer logging in their browser, so you can't even block those surfers with htaccess unless you want to risk getting banned by TGPs for not allowing blank referrers on images.


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