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MattO 01-06-2005 04:25 PM

I'm switching all my content to dynamic jpegs on the fly. I don't submit to TGP's anyways so I only care about my bookmarkers and SE traffic.

digifan 01-06-2005 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AgentCash
Not much can be done about the smart ones beyond using sessions to verify if they are allowed to view content, instead of the http referrer.

pornolizer.org tells the surfers to turn off referrer logging in their browser, so you can't even block those surfers with htaccess unless you want to risk getting banned by TGPs for not allowing blank referrers on images.

Oh I see.. thank you. Now I see why the LL owners recommend banning joker.com where he registered the domain.

digifan 01-06-2005 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattO
I'm switching all my content to dynamic jpegs on the fly. I don't submit to TGP's anyways so I only care about my bookmarkers and SE traffic.

I see... I have bookmarkers and SE traffic and run an old school site but looks like there is always a lot to learn :)

fischi 01-06-2005 04:55 PM

Many others out there (e.g. pornborg.org, aminaked.com, ...)
I wrote some experimental scripts myself that put heavy load on servers by trying to determine picture name patterns (001, 0001, 9 ... 011 , ...), demo is down, no hosting ATM, has killed my server too...

If you dont want to deny hotlinking in general, just do not name your pics 001,002,003,...jpg!
Use random names (uniqid, base64, md4, suzieonthebedlookinggreat.jpg, ...)

If there is pattern, there will be a script that recognizes the pattern.

dcortez 01-06-2005 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
dont worry i already got a bot running it. should be empty by tomorrow :) unless they ban ip's after a few submits or something..

Rotate through proxies.

Is your code working? If it does not, check to make sure that session management is being used for the delete. You may have to pass a cookie back up on the ack which is given to the popup.

:2 cents:

-Dino

SmokeyTheBear 01-06-2005 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcortez
Rotate through proxies.

Is your code working? If it does not, check to make sure that session management is being used for the delete. You may have to pass a cookie back up on the ack which is given to the popup.

:2 cents:

-Dino

nope it was working great , but i think the guy just noticed and modified the script so it wont delete links anymore

SmokeyTheBear 01-06-2005 05:15 PM

http://fusker.lewww.com/modules/moderation/

if you notice he edited the files quite recently that remove links..

somebody try to delete a link and see if it works for you

jayeff 01-06-2005 05:47 PM

In an ideal world, one answer would be to notify the sponsors of sites like these and stop sending them traffic if they didn't delete the cheats accounts.

But that's the ideal world. In this one, we just keep on supporting people who support the crooks that cheat us...

MattO 01-06-2005 05:48 PM

I started getting a DNS error so I switched over to some other fusker sites.

Just wiped:
http://fusker.thepornreview.net
completely clean

Now working on some others

MattO 01-06-2005 06:16 PM

I can't access

http://fusker.lewww.com/

anymore, anyone else?

pussyluver 01-06-2005 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattO
I started getting a DNS error so I switched over to some other fusker sites.

Just wiped:
http://fusker.thepornreview.net
completely clean

Now working on some others

You sure did :thumbsup :thumbsup

pussyluver 01-06-2005 06:18 PM

A good day!!! GFY - More than just drama!!!!

pussyluver 01-06-2005 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattO
I can't access

http://fusker.lewww.com/

anymore, anyone else?

I can! r u using a proxy?

pussyluver 01-06-2005 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
http://fusker.lewww.com/modules/moderation/

if you notice he edited the files quite recently that remove links..

somebody try to delete a link and see if it works for you

I can't remove links. popup window just hangs.

MattO 01-06-2005 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyluver
I can! r u using a proxy?

no but I haven't completely automated it. I'll start up the code for the main site later from my server and let it go, it's basically set up like

fusked.cfm?start=400000&howmany=1000&url=http://fusker.lewww.com/

If anyone has ColdFusion on their server and wants the code I'll post it

pussyluver 01-06-2005 06:29 PM

Please note: the registrant of the domain name is specified
in the "registrant" field. In most cases, Go Daddy Software, Inc.
is not the registrant of domain names listed in this database.


Registrant:
Domains by Proxy, Inc.

Registered through: GoDaddy.com
Domain Name: LEWWW.COM

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.LEWWW.COM
NS2.LEWWW.COM
NS3.LEWWW.COM
NS4.LEWWW.COM
NS5.LEWWW.COM

For complete domain details go to:
http://whois.godaddy.com

MattO 01-06-2005 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyluver
I can't remove links. popup window just hangs.


They must have removed the landing page for the removal form.

So if they can't kill links, maybe it's time for a ******* parade?

venus 01-06-2005 06:38 PM

c'mon, all you hi-speed webmasters out there and you all are complaining about hotlinking, the other day it was password theives.

Stop worrying about the small stuff so you can worry about making money.

here is a quick class for anyone here who needs it.
having your images hotlinked is only for people who have no idea how to run their site who who wants their stuff hot linked, I have stuff that can be hot linked because I want it hot linked, but for galleries this is what you do.
I have a gallery here
http://www.landofvenus.com/galleries/1/index.html
the html and thumbs are in the same directory )the directory 1 as you see above), the actual images are in http://www.landofvenus.com/galleries/1/images/
there is a htaccess in /images that only allow the pics to loaded from
http://www.landofvenus.com/galleries/1/index.html
its that simple.

Now start worrying about making money and stop sweating the small stuff.

Just my 2 cents worth...

pornguy 01-06-2005 06:41 PM

Actually there is a way to fight this and win. Copyright your stuff. The hire an attorney, and sue the fuck out of them for copy infringment. You can and will win.

pornguy 01-06-2005 06:42 PM

Just happened to hit the random link and it brought up photos with this URL


http://www.sunnyleone.com/gal/images..._gloves02.jpg:


anyone know her??

pussyluver 01-06-2005 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy
Actually there is a way to fight this and win. Copyright your stuff. The hire an attorney, and sue the fuck out of them for copy infringment. You can and will win.

Depends on if he has deep pockets, otherwise a waste of time. Plus litigation takes time...

BUT, your point is good if you have a big sponsor with attorneys on retainer or on staff.

pussyluver 01-06-2005 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venus
c'mon, all you hi-speed webmasters out there and you all are complaining about hotlinking, the other day it was password theives.

Stop worrying about the small stuff so you can worry about making money.

here is a quick class for anyone here who needs it.
having your images hotlinked is only for people who have no idea how to run their site who who wants their stuff hot linked, I have stuff that can be hot linked because I want it hot linked, but for galleries this is what you do.
I have a gallery here
http://www.landofvenus.com/galleries/1/index.html
the html and thumbs are in the same directory )the directory 1 as you see above), the actual images are in http://www.landofvenus.com/galleries/1/images/
there is a htaccess in /images that only allow the pics to loaded from
http://www.landofvenus.com/galleries/1/index.html
its that simple.

Now start worrying about making money and stop sweating the small stuff.

Just my 2 cents worth...

Not small stuff when I saw 3% of my bandwidth for a site go to fusker. as expalined above I took down my htaccess protection, prolly for a stupid reason. 3% would have grown. I'll replace the htaccess as it is the smart thing to do. Also will learn a bit more along the way. I'm not at the same level as some here on the scripting side etc.

Plus the thrill of Smokey and MattO teaching these guys a lesson is worth more than any drama thread.

Wanna help, list your htaccess file if you can. I'd be interested in what you did. Not sure that would be smart?? It would reveal your protection in part. You also have a firewall.

Or ICQ, I'd go through it line by line for my own education. I can use google and read the white papers too, but would appreciate seeing code in use...

SmokeyTheBear 01-06-2005 06:56 PM

http://www.landofvenus.com/images4/newlogo_03.jpg

AgentCash 01-06-2005 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venus
c'mon, all you hi-speed webmasters out there and you all are complaining about hotlinking, the other day it was password theives.

Stop worrying about the small stuff so you can worry about making money.

here is a quick class for anyone here who needs it.
having your images hotlinked is only for people who have no idea how to run their site who who wants their stuff hot linked, I have stuff that can be hot linked because I want it hot linked, but for galleries this is what you do.
I have a gallery here
http://www.landofvenus.com/galleries/1/index.html
the html and thumbs are in the same directory )the directory 1 as you see above), the actual images are in http://www.landofvenus.com/galleries/1/images/
there is a htaccess in /images that only allow the pics to loaded from
http://www.landofvenus.com/galleries/1/index.html
its that simple.

Now start worrying about making money and stop sweating the small stuff.

Just my 2 cents worth...


That's all well and good, but it doesn't stop you from being hotlinked and I didn't even have to turn my ref logging off to hotlink you. Imagine all those sites that tell surfers to turn ref logging off, or the firewalls/virus protection programs that do it automatically.

SmokeyTheBear 01-06-2005 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AgentCash
That's all well and good, but it doesn't stop you from being hotlinked and I didn't even have to turn my ref logging off to hotlink you. Imagine all those sites that tell surfers to turn ref logging off, or the firewalls/virus protection programs that do it automatically.

Last edited by AgentCash : Today at 01:58 AM. :winkwink:

AgentCash 01-06-2005 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
Last edited by AgentCash : Today at 01:58 AM. :winkwink:

heh, just noticed she doesn't allow blank ref's but you proved my point :thumbsup

pussyluver 01-06-2005 07:02 PM

Note to self: don't ever piss off Smokey or MattO. Sleazy will just punch ya out at a trade show, Juicy will photochop ya, other people can own your server.

MattO 01-06-2005 07:07 PM

Check out
http://www.babehunt.org/fusker/

Their links are kind of old

venus 01-06-2005 07:09 PM

send me an email and I will send my htaccess over to you, its pretty basic, I use referrer access in it is all.


Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyluver
Not small stuff when I saw 3% of my bandwidth for a site go to fusker. as expalined above I took down my htaccess protection, prolly for a stupid reason. 3% would have grown. I'll replace the htaccess as it is the smart thing to do. Also will learn a bit more along the way. I'm not at the same level as some here on the scripting side etc.

Plus the thrill of Smokey and MattO teaching these guys a lesson is worth more than any drama thread.

Wanna help, list your htaccess file if you can. I'd be interested in what you did. Not sure that would be smart?? It would reveal your protection in part. You also have a firewall.

Or ICQ, I'd go through it line by line for my own education. I can use google and read the white papers too, but would appreciate seeing code in use...


venus 01-06-2005 07:13 PM

you guys really are smarter then the chairs your sitting on right?
hotlinking a graphic on a the main page is stupid and only someone here would do it. pic theives dont do it, they hot link images.
but if I did not want you to hot link it you would not be able to. I am not going to waste my time putting a htaccess to protect my main page

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear


pussyluver 01-06-2005 07:14 PM

Don't see your's showing - mine is fred at itrendsmedia dot com

I see you have a form on your site - i can use it

venus 01-06-2005 07:17 PM

what point was that?
ok so now I put a very simple htaccess in it, poof no hotlinking ...

I do not dis-allow blank refs, I just protect things that need protected with referrer protection..


Quote:

Originally Posted by AgentCash
heh, just noticed she doesn't allow blank ref's but you proved my point :thumbsup


venus 01-06-2005 07:18 PM

[email protected]


Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyluver
Don't see your's showing - mine is fred at itrendsmedia dot com

I see you have a form on your site - i can use it


AgentCash 01-06-2005 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venus
what point was that?
ok so now I put a very simple htaccess in it, poof no hotlinking ...

I do not dis-allow blank refs, I just protect things that need protected with referrer protection..

You do indeed disallow blank refs because when I turn my ref logging off your images take me to
http://www.landofvenus.com/index.html

That means all the people using software that block refs and people that have it disabled are redirected. not the best way to handle the situation IMO.

AgentCash 01-06-2005 07:23 PM

To clarify, normal hotlink protection allows blank refs, but leaves a gaping hole for sites like pornolizer.org to capitalize on. The only surefire ways I can think of to prevent hotlinking at this point in time is using sessions of some type, or chopping your images into tiny bits and serving them in tables.

pussyluver 01-06-2005 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AgentCash
You do indeed disallow blank refs because when I turn my ref logging off your images take me to
http://www.landofvenus.com/index.html

That means all the people using software that block refs and people that have it disabled are redirected. not the best way to handle the situation IMO.


Why do you say that? He would get benefit of surfers on his site. Maybe not the best converting, but they would have access to sponsor links etc.

venus 01-06-2005 07:25 PM

no I do not, your typing in either a 404 or your typing in a link that goes to a referrer protected directory, it then redirects you, per the htaccess in the protected directory to my index page.

this is all basic stuff.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AgentCash
You do indeed disallow blank refs because when I turn my ref logging off your images take me to
http://www.landofvenus.com/index.html

That means all the people using software that block refs and people that have it disabled are redirected. not the best way to handle the situation IMO.


SmokeyTheBear 01-06-2005 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venus
you guys really are smarter then the chairs your sitting on right?
hotlinking a graphic on a the main page is stupid and only someone here would do it. pic theives dont do it, they hot link images.
but if I did not want you to hot link it you would not be able to. I am not going to waste my time putting a htaccess to protect my main page

Shut the fuck up , i was making a fucking point. I never said anything about your site or your protection so who the fuck is the stupid one bitch. Watch your fucking mouth.

venus 01-06-2005 07:27 PM

He has no idea what he is talking about.
I have been doing this a long time, I do very very well at it, better then most amateur sites.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyluver
Why do you say that? He would get benefit of surfers on his site. Maybe not the best converting, but they would have access to sponsor links etc.


venus 01-06-2005 07:29 PM

your point was lame, it was no point.
you can only hotlink what I let you hotlink - do I need to say that again?
you made no point at all.

the rest of your comment I am sure you can answer yourself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
Shut the fuck up , i was making a fucking point. I never said anything about your site or your protection so who the fuck is the stupid one bitch. Watch your fucking mouth.


AgentCash 01-06-2005 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venus
no I do not, your typing in either a 404 or your typing in a link that goes to a referrer protected directory, it then redirects you, per the htaccess in the protected directory to my index page.

this is all basic stuff.

Yes indeed it is very basic. Check again, you are redirecting blank refs. I am clicking directly from your gallery with ref logging disabled in my browser and getting redirected.

SmokeyTheBear 01-06-2005 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venus
I am not going to waste my time putting a htaccess to protect my main page

:1orglaugh

SmokeyTheBear 01-06-2005 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venus
your point was lame, it was no point.
you can only hotlink what I let you hotlink - do I need to say that again?
you made no point at all.

the rest of your comment I am sure you can answer yourself.

Did i say you couldn't ?? Did i say anything to you ??


Then shut the fuck up and keep your fucking quotes to yourself bitch.

AgentCash 01-06-2005 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyluver
Why do you say that? He would get benefit of surfers on his site. Maybe not the best converting, but they would have access to sponsor links etc.

Yes it's all good for getting more surfers away from free content and to a sales page, but by redirecting blank refs you run the risk of being blacklisted at TGPs, etc.

SmokeyTheBear 01-06-2005 07:33 PM

I think you need to take the stick out of your ass venus, :thumbsup

venus 01-06-2005 07:33 PM

LOL ... OK hero, you have a good day ....


Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
Did i say you couldn't ?? Did i say anything to you ??


Then shut the fuck up and keep your fucking quotes to yourself bitch.


venus 01-06-2005 07:36 PM

and put it in yours?

you guys morph a small lesson in protecting their sites to some stupid crap. get over it, use it if you like, dont if you do not, I do not care.


Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
I think you need to take the stick out of your ass venus, :thumbsup


venus 01-06-2005 07:38 PM

for those of you who emailed me, I have emailed you back, let me know if you did not get it or have a question.

pussyluver 01-06-2005 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AgentCash
Yes it's all good for getting more surfers away from free content and to a sales page, but by redirecting blank refs you run the risk of being blacklisted at TGPs, etc.

Got it! Keep gallery submits to a min right now. Have a few TGPs and moving on to AVS. I'd prefer to go with just a few TGPs or use my own. Where I do place galleries now, I know the webmaster involved. Or buy spots. Then there is communication on details...

Thanks.

SmokeyTheBear 01-06-2005 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venus
and put it in yours?

you guys morph a small lesson in protecting their sites to some stupid crap. get over it, use it if you like, dont if you do not, I do not care.


Umm i posted a picture you fucking retard go back to school.


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