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xxweekxx 01-02-2005 02:29 AM

cure for hiv..
 
is there really a cure for hiv?? i mean maybe there is but the big pharm companies dont wanna release it.. does anyone have any info about hiv cure?

MrIzzz 01-02-2005 02:31 AM

good question. i always believed that the virus was originally a military weapon, so they always had a cure but they wont release it.

but thenagain, i also had a 12 pack of heineken

Hot Visions 01-02-2005 02:32 AM

Ofcourse they arnt going to release it. The government makes toooo much on peaple being sick than getting better. Its all about money :2 cents:

Johny Traffic 01-02-2005 02:42 AM

Quote:

The government makes toooo much on peaple being sick than getting better
Go and give yourself a good shake outside and get a better grip on reality :thumbsup

MarkTiarra 01-02-2005 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
Go and give yourself a good shake outside and get a better grip on reality :thumbsup

I don't know about the government but thge pharmecutical companies make more money on treatment than they do on a cure. PErhaps that's why we haven't seen anything cured in a good long time. Then again I would think the first company out with a cure to a big disease would make alot of bucks for awhile and their stock price would sky rocket which is very important in ways most people don't usually get.

Another point here is people have seen time and time again how shortsighted corporate thinking is and often complain about the stupidity of it, so why would one assume they are suddenly patient and not shortsighted when it comes to cure vs. treatment?

junction 01-02-2005 02:48 AM

The pharmaceutical companies run our government.

Johny Traffic 01-02-2005 02:55 AM

OK I'll bite.

Two very simple things to point out.

1. The US government and pharmaceutical companies are not the only governments and pharmaceutical companies in the world looking for a cure. Get a grip please

2. Supposing Im wrong and no one else in the world is looking for a cure. Then keeping something like this a secret would take 1000's of people from government people to doctors from not talking. Now this is where the theory falls down, for two main reasons. Most doctors are doctors because they want to cure people. If they had cured aids they would tell people. But more importantly. I have never met one American who can keep their mouth shut about anything. Let alone 1000's of Americans all keeping their mouths shut about the biggest medical breakthrough in history. Not gonna happen

Hot Visions 01-02-2005 03:08 AM

if every HIV victim pays $700 a month on meds, why would the Gov want you to pay one big bill instead of a bunch of $700 ones the rest of your life?? The American Government " i think" is the most crooked thing in this world...
just my thought

Hot Visions 01-02-2005 03:10 AM

sorry but i dont think they give a shit of u die, they just want your money :2 cents:

Triple 6 01-02-2005 03:11 AM

go america!

EscortBiz 01-02-2005 03:13 AM

"God created the cure before
the malady"

SykkBoy 01-02-2005 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hot Visions
if every HIV victim pays $700 a month on meds, why would the Gov want you to pay one big bill instead of a bunch of $700 ones the rest of your life?? The American Government " i think" is the most crooked thing in this world...
just my thought

what? you mean if I want meds, I'd have to pay the government for them???

Hot Visions 01-02-2005 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SykkBoy2
what? you mean if I want meds, I'd have to pay the government for them???

someone has to pay.... your not getting them for free....insurance or something.....
i could hook you up without a script :winkwink:

Illicit 01-02-2005 03:24 AM

Some of you people are so paranoid its ridiculous

Hot Visions 01-02-2005 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajpiii
Some of you people are so paranoid its ridiculous

:321GFY :love-smil

nofx 01-02-2005 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hot Visions
if every HIV victim pays $700 a month on meds, why would the Gov want you to pay one big bill instead of a bunch of $700 ones the rest of your life?? The American Government " i think" is the most crooked thing in this world...
just my thought

excellent :thumbsup

xxweekxx 01-02-2005 09:22 AM

armenicum?

xclusive 01-02-2005 09:26 AM

There is so much stuff we don't know it isn't even funny you think that if the bush twins got hiv that their wouldn't be a cure a.s.a.p...?

pussyluver 01-02-2005 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by xclusive
There is so much stuff we don't know it isn't even funny you think that if the bush twins got hiv that their wouldn't be a cure a.s.a.p...?

They would get the best treatment available. That does NOT include a cure.

Some people live just fine with the HIV and it never turns in to AIDS.

QuaWee 01-02-2005 09:39 AM

people need to understand, there is not any big money in cures. companies make more selling treatments, they can care less

xxweekxx 01-02-2005 10:00 AM

!yeah tru

pxxx 01-02-2005 12:02 PM

for now there is no cure, they just know how to keep you alive if u have it, but they can't make it go away.

killshot 01-02-2005 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hot Visions
if every HIV victim pays $700 a month on meds, why would the Gov want you to pay one big bill instead of a bunch of $700 ones the rest of your life?? The American Government " i think" is the most crooked thing in this world...
just my thought

People with aids can spend as much as $500 a day on meds

that said, there ARE people working on a cure, but there is not one yet.

Some people think that there is a cure for some reason though

I saw a tv show recently where they were interviewing all these people who were getting infected on purpose as some sort of game because they thought they could just take a pill later and cure it... then were shocked to find out there is no cure

TheFrog 01-02-2005 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hot Visions
Ofcourse they arnt going to release it. The government makes toooo much on peaple being sick than getting better. Its all about money :2 cents:

where is ur tin foil hat m8. government conspiracies
:error

mardigras 01-02-2005 12:23 PM

If we ever get a national sales tax the government will take a newfound interest in the health of it's citizens:glugglug

xxweekxx 01-02-2005 12:31 PM

cool replies so far

mrthumbs 01-02-2005 12:33 PM

treatment = revshare
cure = per signup

cyber_ninja 01-02-2005 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
OK I'll bite.

Two very simple things to point out.

1. The US government and pharmaceutical companies are not the only governments and pharmaceutical companies in the world looking for a cure. Get a grip please

2. Supposing Im wrong and no one else in the world is looking for a cure. Then keeping something like this a secret would take 1000's of people from government people to doctors from not talking. Now this is where the theory falls down, for two main reasons. Most doctors are doctors because they want to cure people. If they had cured aids they would tell people. But more importantly. I have never met one American who can keep their mouth shut about anything. Let alone 1000's of Americans all keeping their mouths shut about the biggest medical breakthrough in history. Not gonna happen

yep,im an american and if i new of a cure for anything at all i would be telling everyone.
whoever cures hiv or aids first will be the richest person alive.so i dont see how not cureing it would make them more money.

xxweekxx 01-02-2005 01:04 PM

true....

ironlung 01-02-2005 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EscortBiz
"God created the cure before
the malady"

what the fuck does that mean, is that some bull shit quote from the bible

i think there is a cure, look how long magic johnsons been kickin it

cyber_ninja 01-02-2005 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironlung
what the fuck does that mean, is that some bull shit quote from the bible

i think there is a cure, look how long magic johnsons been kickin it

it can take 10+ years to kill you.

bllott 01-02-2005 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hot Visions
Ofcourse they arnt going to release it. The government makes toooo much on peaple being sick than getting better. Its all about money :2 cents:

exactly correct

jt420 01-02-2005 01:20 PM

the government/pharm companies would rather see people paying money for treatment, have them live longer and make the most off their situation.

ironlung 01-02-2005 01:21 PM

he was tested positive in 1991, 14 years and he is still healthy

"After a period ranging from 5 to 10 years following the initial infection, the Hiv virus tricks the infected cell into producing viral proteins, which results in the formation of a huge number of viral particles inside the white cell eventually causing the cell to burst, releasing thousands of new viruses within the blood."

Veterans Day 01-02-2005 01:23 PM

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Methodcash Rick 01-02-2005 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
Then keeping something like this a secret would take 1000's of people from government people to doctors from not talking.

You know what they say... 3 people can keep a secret, if 2 of them are dead... :winkwink:

Dcat 01-02-2005 02:07 PM

I hate to say it, but maybe AIDS "is" the cure. This biosphere (we all inhabit) is starting to get a little crowded. :2 cents:

TheMob 01-02-2005 02:12 PM

they will find a cure sooner or later

Centurion 01-02-2005 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dcat
I hate to say it, but maybe AIDS "is" the cure. This biosphere (we all inhabit) is starting to get a little crowded. :2 cents:

Well, for that matter, the tsunami, the Iraqi war, the attack on the WTC, the genocide in Africa, cancer, and all those other things that I thought were HORRIFIC are really good for this planet as it's reducing the human population!

Sorry Dcat..what BULLSHIT!

smack 01-02-2005 02:32 PM

rutgers has apperently developed a cure.

smack 01-02-2005 02:36 PM

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...enceandHealth/

Bean Tickler 01-02-2005 02:42 PM

I agree with "All About Money..."
Secret ingrediants for the CURE will find its way into the right hands!!!

Dcat 01-02-2005 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Centurion
Well, for that matter, the tsunami, the Iraqi war, the attack on the WTC, the genocide in Africa, cancer, and all those other things that I thought were HORRIFIC are really good for this planet as it's reducing the human population!

Sorry Dcat..what BULLSHIT!


No, I'm not suggesting for a moment that any of the things you mentioned about are "really good for this planet." All I'm saying is that AIDS may be part of the biological process to keep the Earth's carrying capacity in equilibrium. Nothing more.

doober 01-02-2005 02:51 PM

December 13, 2004 -- Researchers at Rutgers University in Piscataway, N.J., have developed a trio of drugs they believe can destroy HIV, the virus that causes AIDS, according to a medical journal report.
The drugs, called DAPYs, mimic the virus by changing shape, which enables them to interfere with the way HIV attacks the immune system.

Tests conducted in conjunction with Johnson & Johnson have shown the drugs to be easily absorbed with minimal side effects.

They also can be taken in one pill, in contrast to the drug cocktails currently taken by many AIDS patients.

A research team led by Rutgers chemist Eddy Arnold prepublished details of the most promising of the three drugs, known as R278474, last month in the electronic edition of the Journal of Medicinal Chemistry.

The research has targeted reverse transcriptase, a submiscroscopic protein composed of two coiled chains of amino acids. It is considered HIV's key protein.

"Reverse transcriptase is very important in the biology of AIDS," said Stephen Smith, the head of the department of infectious diseases at St. Michael's Medical Center in Newark.

"If you can really inhibit reverse transcriptase, you can stop AIDS."

The optimism about R278474 stems from its potential to interfere with an enzyme that the virus needs to copy and insert itself into a human cell.




AP



http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/36375.htm

SykkBoy 01-02-2005 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hot Visions
someone has to pay.... your not getting them for free....insurance or something.....
i could hook you up without a script :winkwink:

of course I'm not getting them for free, but if I'm BUYING them, I don't buy them FROM the government...

colpanic 01-02-2005 04:11 PM

You guys really do need tin foil hats. :1orglaugh

Even if you believe that the pharm companies run the country (which is *also* absurd).. They don't run *all* the countries!

:helpme

CAHEK 01-02-2005 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxweekxx
is there really a cure for hiv?? i mean maybe there is but the big pharm companies dont wanna release it.. does anyone have any info about hiv cure?


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Head 01-02-2005 06:57 PM

You should have used a condom.

pussyluver 01-02-2005 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dcat
I hate to say it, but maybe AIDS "is" the cure. This biosphere (we all inhabit) is starting to get a little crowded. :2 cents:

Bullshit - plenty of room left. Just need to spread out a bit.

ironlung 01-02-2005 07:12 PM

if everyone spreads out then there will be no wild life, i think the world no doubt is getting over crowded


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