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directfiesta 12-03-2004 08:03 PM

Americans killed irakis because they didn?t speak English
 
So american ....

" Speak white, ya fuckin sand n-i-g-g-e-r..."

:ak47:

Quote:

Baghdad , Dec 3 - Men now seeking refuge in the Baghdad area are telling horrific stories of indiscriminate killings by US forces during the peak of fighting last month in the largely annihilated city of Fallujah.

In an interview with The NewStandard, Burhan Fasa?a, an Iraqi journalist who works for the popular Lebanese satellite TV station, LBC, said he witnessed US crimes up close. Burhan Fasa?a, who was in Fallujah for nine days during the most intense combat, said Americans grew easily frustrated with Iraqis who could not speak English.

"Americans did not have interpreters with them," Fasa?a said, "so they entered houses and killed people because they didn?t speak English. They entered the house where I was with 26 people, and [they] shot people because [the people] didn?t obey [the soldiers?] orders, even just because the people couldn?t understand a word of English."
That " liberation" shit is awsome !


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A man named Khalil, who asked The NewStandard not to use his last name for fear of reprisals, said he had witnessed the shooting of civilians who were waving white flags while they tried to escape the city.
" Freedom " is amazing.

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"I watched them roll over wounded people in the street with tanks," said Kassem Mohammed Ahmed, a resident of Fallujah. "This happened so many times."

Other refugees recount similar stories. "I saw so many civilians killed there, and I saw several tanks roll over the wounded in the streets," said Aziz Abdulla, 27 years old, who fled the fighting last month. Another resident, Abu Aziz, said he also witnessed American armored vehicles crushing people he believes were alive.

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A man called Abu Hammad said he witnessed US troops throwing Iraqi bodies into the Euphrates River. Others nodded in agreement. Abu Hammed and others also said they saw Americans shooting unarmed Iraqis who waved white flags.

Believing that American and Iraqi forces were bent on killing anyone who stayed in Fallujah, Hammad said he watched people attempt to swim across the Euphrates to escape the siege. "Even then the Americans shot them with rifles from the shore," he said. "Even if some of them were holding a white flag or white clothes over their heads to show they are not fighters, they were all shot."

Associated Press photographer Bilal Hussein reported witnessing similar events. After running out of basic necessities and deciding to flee the city at the height of the US-led assault, Hussein ran to the Euphrates.

"I decided to swim," Hussein told colleagues at the AP, who wrote up the photographer?s harrowing story, "but I changed my mind after seeing US helicopters firing on and killing people who tried to cross the river."
and it goes on ....

http://newstandardnews.net/content/?...em&itemid=1268


" Yes, but Saddam gassed his own people and had rape rooms ..."....

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

xenophobic 12-03-2004 08:07 PM

wow, who would have thought shit like that went on in a Warzone.

pornguy 12-03-2004 08:14 PM

One of the problems that is going on, is that this is news reported by people that MAY not know the entire story.

For the tanks rolling over people. They can not stop to move them or they will be ambushed and killed them sleves. They can not easily drive around them.

If these people can not follow basic commands and hand signals, then what do they expect? I do not agree with shooting them, but I also understand that leaving them there will only invite one of them to kill you, or your partner.

cocky 12-03-2004 08:15 PM

bet they start carrying a translation dictionary with them

directfiesta 12-03-2004 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornguy
One of the problems that is going on, is that this is news reported by people that MAY not know the entire story.

For the tanks rolling over people. They can not stop to move them or they will be ambushed and killed them sleves. They can not easily drive around them.

If these people can not follow basic commands and hand signals, then what do they expect? I do not agree with shooting them, but I also understand that leaving them there will only invite one of them to kill you, or your partner.

But, remind me exactly why not only you are still there, but in fact you are increasing the number of troops... while tthe " coalition of the willings " is becoming " the coalition of the shrinking " ...( Romania voted to remove their troops ( fourth biggest contribution....) )

xenophobic 12-03-2004 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
But, remind me exactly why not only you are still there, but in fact you are increasing the number of troops... while tthe " coalition of the willings " is becoming " the coalition of the shrinking " ...( Romania voted to remove their troops ( fourth biggest contribution....) )
I should imagine the increase in troops is due in part to the massive security requirements for the upcoming elections?

drctfiesta 12-03-2004 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
But, remind me exactly why not only you are still there, but in fact you are increasing the number of troops... while tthe " coalition of the willings " is becoming " the coalition of the shrinking " ...( Romania voted to remove their troops ( fourth biggest contribution....) )
Do you know about the Eye of Horus?

directfiesta 12-03-2004 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by drctfiesta
Do you know about the Eye of Horus?
You really are a fucktard .. with a 5.5" penis, probably flacid ....
Drop dead!

drctfiesta 12-03-2004 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
You really are a fucktard .. with a 5.5" penis, probably flacid ....
Drop dead!


Oh, of course flacid, it is bigger when it is hard :)

directfiesta 12-03-2004 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xenophobic
I should imagine the increase in troops is due in part to the massive security requirements for the upcoming elections?
That is not an answer to the above question....
Were are the flowers and the cheering population....


" Good Morning, Iraknam "

xenophobic 12-03-2004 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
" ...( Romania voted to remove their troops ( fourth biggest contribution....) )
Romania contributed 278 non-combat experts in demining, in chemical and biological decontamination and military police.

Nanda 12-03-2004 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
You really are a fucktard .. with a 5.5" penis, probably flacid ....
Drop dead!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

crockett 12-03-2004 08:26 PM

hum mm.. so we believe everything we read on some "news" website...

http://newstandardnews.net/

front page is full of nothing but anti war anti this and anti that.. so I think their articles are just slightly biased.

TheMob 12-03-2004 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornguy
One of the problems that is going on, is that this is news reported by people that MAY not know the entire story.

For the tanks rolling over people. They can not stop to move them or they will be ambushed and killed them sleves. They can not easily drive around them.

If these people can not follow basic commands and hand signals, then what do they expect? I do not agree with shooting them, but I also understand that leaving them there will only invite one of them to kill you, or your partner.

Yeah, when I drive down the street I can't easily stop for pedestrians. I have to make an effort. I know what you mean. That's why I just run them over.

xenophobic 12-03-2004 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
That is not an answer to the above question....
Were are the flowers and the cheering population....


" Good Morning, Iraknam "

Hi, I know you are a Canadian Troll, but I did answer your question about the increase in troops. The other part you just threw in is irrelavant troll like behavior most have come to expect.

drctfiesta 12-03-2004 08:29 PM

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Originally posted by Nanda
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh
Do you know about the Eye of Horus?

pornguy 12-03-2004 08:29 PM

Direct. Lets not forget that it is not ME! it us BUSH. I disagree with the entire thing. I know that it is all about oil and his revenge.

I was just making a few comments.

I feel bad for both the Soldiers ( first. they are from the same country as I ) and for the people in Iraq. they were happy living they way they lived, and the US had not right to invade them.

pornguy 12-03-2004 08:30 PM

MOB have you ever driven a tank?

Have you ever driven a hummer through a street where people are either shooting at you, or waiting on you to stop long enough to throw a gernade???


I did not think so.

TheMob 12-03-2004 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornguy
MOB have you ever driven a tank?

Have you ever driven a hummer through a street where people are either shooting at you, or waiting on you to stop long enough to throw a gernade???


I did not think so.

No, because I couldn't handle the fucking situation. Like these people, obviously. :2 cents:

pornguy 12-03-2004 08:36 PM

Why do you say that they can not handle the situation?? Because they are not climbing out of thier tank to move wounded people?

They have an objective. Actaully they ahve more than the mission plan. They want to go hom alive and in one piece. And if that means that they may have to drive over wounded people that may or may not be armend bad guys, then they will do it.

directfiesta 12-03-2004 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xenophobic
Romania contributed 278 non-combat experts in demining, in chemical and biological decontamination and military police.
Well, the Polish contingent has a bulk influx of Ukranians...
But you probably know better than the Ukranian parliament... After all, you speak english...:1orglaugh

Quote:


The Ukrainian parliament appealed Friday to President Leonid Kuchma to withdraw the country's 1,600 soldiers from the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq

...withdraw Ukrainian soldiers, who serve in a Polish-led contingent in eastern Iraq and make up the fourth-largest contribution to the U.S.-led war effort.
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/20...764411-ap.html

It is amazing how you never question what your administration feeds you ...

even more amazing after all the lies, half-truth and mismanagements ....

Veterans Day 12-03-2004 08:39 PM

yay directfiestas daily bash :banana :banana :banana

directfiesta 12-03-2004 08:45 PM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
yay directfiestas daily bash :banana :banana :banana
Mre like weekly...

Have been busy lately wit h4 new sites. and family health problems...

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xenophobic 12-03-2004 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
Well, the Polish contingent has a bulk influx of Ukranians...
But you probably know better than the Ukranian parliament... After all, you speak english...:1orglaugh
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/20...764411-ap.html
It is amazing how youi never question what your administration feeds you ...
even more amazing after all the lies, half-truth and mismanagements ....

I find it ironic how when I give you a quote, or answer a question -- you quickly change the subject. You pasted Romania were the 4th largest partner in the war, they however contributed 278 non-combat engineers - now you're saying Ukraine has the fourth largest contribution? make up your mind please?
Are you talking Combat, or Non-Combat contributions, I'm afraid your pasting from numerous news sources does not make that clear.
The Administration hasn't 'fed' me anything thanks, has yours?

theking 12-03-2004 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta

http://newstandardnews.net/content/?...em&itemid=1268
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Even if I were to believe the article as being the whole truth and nothing but the truth...the fact is that it is "civilians" in Iraq that are the enemy...Iraq's military forces were defeated in three weeks...so killing "civilians" is to be expected.

In addition...from the very first days of egagement the enemy has used "civilians" as cover...then engaged the coalition forces...the enemy has used the white flag of truce/surrender as cover...then engaged the coalition forces...the enemy has feigned being wounded...or are actually wounded...then have engaged the coalition forces...the enemy are booby trapping their dead...etc.

In the heat of battle...it behooves a soldier to act first and ask questions later...if he has any desire to survive. As for tanks running over people...it is the tank Commanders responsibility not to jeapordize his weapon platform...nor the lives of his men. Stopping a tank to avoid running over some one...alive or dead...in the heat of battle would constitute dereliction of the tank Commanders responsibility. In combat...mission...is the priority...and lives are secondary to the mission.

directfiesta 12-03-2004 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xenophobic
I find it ironic how when I give you a quote, or answer a question -- you quickly change the subject. You pasted Romania were the 4th largest partner in the war, they however contributed 278 non-combat engineers - now you're saying Ukraine has the fourth largest contribution? make up your mind please?
Are you talking Combat, or Non-Combat contributions, I'm afraid your pasting from numerous news sources does not make that clear.
The Administration hasn't 'fed' me anything thanks, has yours?

My mistake... Should have always been Ukraine, including the first post ...

directfiesta 12-03-2004 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking
Even if I were to believe the article as being the whole truth and nothing but the truth...the fact is that it is "civilians" in Iraq that are the enemy...Iraq's military forces were defeated in three weeks...so killing "civilians" is to be expected.

In addition...from the very first days of egagement the enemy has used "civilians" as cover...then engaged the coalition forces...the enemy has used the white flag of truce/surrender as cover...then engaged the coalition forces...the enemy has feigned being wounded...or are actually wounded...then have engaged the coalition forces...the enemy are booby trapping their dead...etc.

In the heat of battle...it behooves a soldier to act first and ask questions later...if he has any desire to survive. As for tanks running over people...it is the tank Commanders responsibility not to jeapordize his weapon platform...nor the lives of his men. Stopping a tank to avoid running over some one...alive or dead...in the heat of battle would constitute dereliction of the tank Commanders responsibility. In combat...mission...is the priority...and lives are secondary to the mission.

You were a witness of those claimed actions ????

Or you were fed that info ... ???

xenophobic 12-03-2004 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
My mistake... Should have always been Ukraine, including the first post ...
OK, but don't you think their current political climate plays into this factor?

theking 12-03-2004 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
But, remind me exactly why not only you are still there, but in fact you are increasing the number of troops... while tthe " coalition of the willings " is becoming " the coalition of the shrinking " ...( Romania voted to remove their troops ( fourth biggest contribution....) )
Easy answer...forces are still there because the mission has not been accomplished...but news flash for you...forces will be in Iraq until hell freezes over...mission accomplished or not...or untill the American people demand (in force) that they be removed. Troop levels are normally raised or lowered at the request of the field Commanders...but in this case it is to provide increased security for the elections taking place next month.

directfiesta 12-03-2004 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xenophobic
OK, but don't you think their current political climate plays into this factor?
Absolutely, but they already had pulled out 200 troops ....

Needless to say, this invasion is not anymore " Operation Iraki Freedom" and countries ( aside from the Anglo-Saxon axis) feel shafted ....

directfiesta 12-03-2004 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking
Easy answer...forces are still there because the mission has not been accomplished...but news flash for you...forces will be in Iraq until hell freezes over...mission accomplished or not...or untill the A
Fuck,,, I have been lied to ...

I saw a big banner once .... :1orglaugh

Maybe in next Bush speech, he will say:

" Saddam wax a bad man: he had tanks running over his own people and shot them when thrying to save their lives by swimming across ... "

That should go well with the unedicated.

baddog 12-03-2004 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
You were a witness of those claimed actions ????

Or you were fed that info ... ???

one could ask you the very same thing

VirtuMike 12-03-2004 09:05 PM

When these soldiers are done in Iraq, we should send them to NYC and tell them to take a cab from LaGuardia to Newark for a connection. Then on to Miami where they will visit beautiful Hialeah.

Xplicit 12-03-2004 09:12 PM

Who fucking cares? We let every CIVILIAN who didnt want to fight a chance to get outta there over a WEEK before we invaded.

Anyone who stayed behind did it to FIGHT us, of corse they all became targets.

...and that lame "article" interviews those terrorists, of corse theyre gonna talk shit.

Maybe we'd actually care about them waving white flags if they didnt actually use tatics like this to make a surprise kill.

jayeff 12-03-2004 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking
Iraq's military forces were defeated in three weeks...so killing "civilians" is to be expected.
Whenever there is a thread which requires someone to trot out a glib justification for destroying the lives of people who were not, are not, and not in any of our lifetimes would ever have been a threat to us, you are never far away.

I'm not sure which would say less about you. If you have never thought about the suffering we are inflicting or if you have and simply don't give a damn.

theking 12-03-2004 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
You were a witness of those claimed actions ????

Or you were fed that info ... ???

Before the Iraqi military had been defeated (in other words from the beginning) British forces were attacked while the enemy was under a white flag of truce/surrender pretending to be peaceful non-combatants while at the very same time using actual non combatants for cover. This was video taped by an embed and shown to the world.

As for being fed info...yes indeed I am fed info and have been from the beginning...as I am in contact with around twenty five active duty members (most of which I served with but in some cases the sons/daughters of those I served with) that have served in Iraq and in some cases more than once.

- Jesus Christ - 12-03-2004 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
one could ask you the very same thing
Shhhh!

Logic only allowed if it supports his position.


Nice thread title too. They are American Soldiers. Big fucking difference, but no lets define it as broadly as posible to convery the maximum anti US troll rage. :1orglaugh

directfiesta 12-03-2004 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Xplicit
Who fucking cares? We let every CIVILIAN who didnt want to fight a chance to get outta there over a WEEK before we invaded.

Anyone who stayed behind did it to FIGHT us, of corse they all became targets.

...and that lame "article" interviews those terrorists, of corse theyre gonna talk shit.

Maybe we'd actually care about them waving white flags if they didnt actually use tatics like this to make a surprise kill.

Found a dead brain...

Look at Florida... Hurricanes one after the other ... and some people stayed to protect their only possession : house, store, ... or had nowhere to go...

I wish that one day foreign invading troops circle your city and shoot the shit out of you ... Maybe you will think... oooppps, impossible!

Reminder: You are in THEIR country, not the other way round...
No WMD, NO Al-Quaeda at that time ( you have now installed it and upgraded it ) ....
Forgot, yes there is OIL

directfiesta 12-03-2004 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
Shhhh!

Logic only allowed if it supports his position.


Nice thread title too. They are American Soldiers. Big fucking difference, but no lets define it as broadly as posible to convery the maximum anti US troll rage. :1orglaugh

This is not logic...
I posted an article citing names of various people , some in official duty...

TheKing only writes his perception ...

But CHRIST, you are right: this is a just war and people are liberated ... and America safer .. and a bad man is gone .. and ... and ...

:1orglaugh

johnnyhey 12-03-2004 09:20 PM

we should resort to WWII tactics of bombing and leveling entire cities.

that's why they call it war.

fuck, with no 'smart' weapons, think of the money we could save. maybe then our gov't could bail out ibill.

- Jesus Christ - 12-03-2004 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
This is not logic...
I posted an article citing names of various people , some in official duty...

TheKing only writes his perception ...

But CHRIST, you are right: this is a just war and people are liberated ... and America safer .. and a bad man is gone .. and ... and ...

:1orglaugh

Nah bro.

I'm anti war. We're fucked for being there. Voted for kerry.

You're still a fucking moron. :2 cents:

slavdogg 12-03-2004 09:24 PM

awesome
can we do that again in few more Iraqi cities ?

theking 12-03-2004 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jayeff
Whenever there is a thread which requires someone to trot out a glib justification for destroying the lives of people who were not, are not, and not in any of our lifetimes would ever have been a threat to us, you are never far away.

I'm not sure which would say less about you. If you have never thought about the suffering we are inflicting or if you have and simply don't give a damn.

I do not agree with your "assumptions"...and they are assumptions. The duly elected representatives of the US made the decision to take down Saddam and the Baathist party...and in my opinon this decision should have been made within the first year of the '91 truce and the terms that Saddam and his Generals agreed to...and almost immediately violated.

The military of Iraq was defeated in three weeks and Iraq now has a new interim governmnet and constitution. I do not give a damn about the suffering we are inflicting as the solution to their suffering is simple...lay down their arms and turn in those that are killing coalition forces as well as killing their fellow Iraqi's...but I do give a damn about the suffering that is being inflicted upon our forces...UN personell...and all of the other orgs that are there to relieve the suffering of the Iraqi's.

VirtuMike 12-03-2004 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnnyhey
we should resort to WWII tactics of bombing and leveling entire cities.

that's why they call it war.

fuck, with no 'smart' weapons, think of the money we could save.

That's a good idea - except it has a couple flaws. First, the money in storing the old blunt weapons would stop being wasted, causing government types to lose jobs. Second, the money being wasted on newer smart weapons would shrink, causing government people as well as civilian contractors to lose jobs. Third, if you level a whole city over there, you're now obligated to rebuild it after you're done. Use Japan as an example. So it ends up being about the same price, and the smart weapons way gives our people more money and leaves the enemy living in the same shit they've been in since they discovered dirt there.

directfiesta 12-03-2004 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking
I do not agree with your "assumptions"...and they are assumptions. The duly elected representatives of the US made the decision to take down Saddam and the Baathist party...and in my opinon this decision should have been made within the first year of the '91 truce and the terms that Saddam and his Generals agreed to...and almost immediately violated.

The military of Iraq was defeated in three weeks and Iraq now has a new interim governmnet and constitution. I do not give a damn about the suffering we are inflicting as the solution to their suffering is simple...lay down their arms and turn in those that are killing coalition forces as well as killing their fellow Iraqi's...but I do give a damn about the suffering that is being inflicted upon our forces...UN personell...and all of the other orgs that are there to relieve the suffering of the Iraqi's.

:glugglug

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theking 12-03-2004 11:32 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta
:glugglug

http://www.whisky.fr/img2/produit/v1702.gif

I don't drink the stuff...a double Bloody Mary for breakfast...and beer in the afternoon is about it for me...but maybe you had another meaning?

kmanrox 12-03-2004 11:34 PM

cry me a fucking river... if i was there i'd be killing them just for looking at me, at least these guys had a valid reason to kill them... who wants a bunch of chicken heads squawking around you when you're busy killing the other chickens?

theking 12-03-2004 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
Fuck,,, I have been lied to ...

I saw a big banner once .... :1orglaugh

Maybe in next Bush speech, he will say:

" Saddam wax a bad man: he had tanks running over his own people and shot them when thrying to save their lives by swimming across ... "

That should go well with the unedicated.

The banner was acknowledgement to the ships crew that had been at sea for...I believe its longest cruise ever...and for its performance in the Gulf. President Bush...and to the best of my knowledge no one in the Administration...ever said "Mission Accomplished". If I am wrong...then educate me.

theking 12-04-2004 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kmanrox
cry me a fucking river... if i was there i'd be killing them just for looking at me, at least these guys had a valid reason to kill them... who wants a bunch of chicken heads squawking around you when you're busy killing the other chickens?
John Wayne...is that you?

Manowar 12-04-2004 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
But, remind me exactly why not only you are still there, but in fact you are increasing the number of troops... while tthe " coalition of the willings " is becoming " the coalition of the shrinking " ...( Romania voted to remove their troops ( fourth biggest contribution....) )
soon it will just be america and britain left there


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