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BossDVDs 10-06-2004 05:08 PM

Dvdsforabuck FINALLY gets knocked off by a bunch of thieves! (DRAMA Unfolds!!)
 
After having operated Dvdsforabuck.com for almost 1 year, someone finally decided to knock off our model.

http://dvdsforapenny.com/

Don't get me wrong, I'm all about friendly competition, in fact it often generates innovation in which the involved parties can benefit from. However, IMO these guys did a BAD job at creating a competing product.

First of all, they're clearly stealing a lot of our copyrighted verbiage. Their membership model charges the same as our but they don't provide the surfers with a FRACTION of what we've always provided.

However, I'm not going to sit here and hate on the wankers .. besides, their affiliate program pays 50% LESS than ours! Also, with Dvdsforabuck Ver. 2.0 coming soon, they can GO FUCK THEMSELVES!! :321GFY

DX 10-06-2004 05:15 PM

that site is sad looking...

not worth the penny.

BossDVDs 10-06-2004 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DX
that site is sad looking...

not worth the penny.

Yeah, and it's especially a shame when they have to steal property.

bjorn_moneymaker 10-06-2004 05:38 PM

wow...
 
You mean like YOU stole it from Columbia House.

You actually act like you invented a NEW idea...

Look out everybody, only one person can sell porn now...
:2 cents:

Just take a chill pill, there is plenty of pie for everybody, in fact if you click on the banner below, our conversions rock!

calmlikeabomb 10-06-2004 05:43 PM

lol

EZRhino 10-06-2004 05:44 PM

Very sad looking site

stocktrader23 10-06-2004 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BossDVDs
After having operated Dvdsforabuck.com for almost 1 year, someone finally decided to knock off our model.

http://dvdsforapenny.com/


Haven't mainstream companies been doing this for ages?

Strife 10-06-2004 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23
Haven't mainstream companies been doing this for ages?
They sure have...:glugglug

VeriSexy 10-06-2004 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23
Haven't mainstream companies been doing this for ages?

baddog 10-06-2004 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BossDVDs
Their membership model charges the same as our but they don't provide the surfers with a FRACTION of what we've always provided.

maybe that is why it is a penny instead of a buck?

Theo 10-06-2004 06:19 PM

no ssl on the order page.....i dont see them going very far

Theo 10-06-2004 06:23 PM

i know who's behind this, expect a credit card rape

J$tyle$ 10-06-2004 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
i know who's behind this, expect a credit card rape
Spill the beans

inquiring minds ...

BossDVDs 10-06-2004 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bjorn_moneymaker
You mean like YOU stole it from Columbia House.

You actually act like you invented a NEW idea...

Look out everybody, only one person can sell porn now...
:2 cents:

Just take a chill pill, there is plenty of pie for everybody, in fact if you click on the banner below, our conversions rock!

So if imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, then I guess you're all up in our nuts. You're stealing my exact verbiage in various locations. We didn't create something new, mainstream has been doing this 40+ years. However we did apply new membership concepts to give surfers a better value hands down:

Columbia House offers users a selection of DVDs, 5 for $.49 each plus s/h. The catch is they require members to purchase 5-6 more titles at regular price within 2 years. This puts membership at about $100-120 for the commitment.

Dvdsforabuck offers users a choice from 1000's of brand new dvds, sealed from the studios, and their first 5 for $1 and free shipping. User are then enrolled into our No Long Term Monthly membership fee of $34.95 per month. This puts membership commitment at exactly $1 + $34.95 :bowdown

Really the point is that we've always anticipated competition. What is sad though is when a company appears into the Industry and steals directly from another site owner. By the way, do you run other programs? In the past?

I would certainly think twice about trusting you with my traffic/money since it's clear you have little regard for your fellow site owners/webmasters.

Watch which bridges you burn. :2 cents:

pornstar2pac 10-06-2004 06:52 PM

pornstar2pac is coming out with :


Dvdsforweed


Stay Tuned:Graucho

bjorn_moneymaker 10-06-2004 07:12 PM

Boss,

p.s. I hear Blockbuster is pissed cause you stole their colors...

cold_ice 10-06-2004 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BossDVDs

Dvdsforabuck offers users a choice from 1000's of brand new dvds, sealed from the studios, and their first 5 for $1 and free shipping. User are then enrolled into our No Long Term Monthly membership fee of $34.95 per month. This puts membership commitment at exactly $1 + $34.95 :bowdown


So a member pays 35 bucks a month untill they cancel? What do they get with their membership, movies at a discounted price?

stocktrader23 10-06-2004 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cold_ice
SO a member pays 35 bucks a month untill they cancel? What do they get with their membership?
A monthly charge they didn't expect?

Theo 10-06-2004 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by J$tyle$
Spill the beans

inquiring minds ...

"The charge on your credit card statement will simply show www.sgada.com."

i've seen sites billed by sgada telling the surfers they are getting charged for $1 but the actual charges are annual, so 4 years purchase is $48

for the case of dvdsforpennies its more visible in their terms box which you have to scroll has:




1. When I become a Subscriber I get 4 Dvds for 1¢ which includes free shipping and handling.

2. As a Subscriber I understand that I will receive 4 Dvds for every month that my Subscription continues. There is never any charge for the shipping or handling of the Dvds which are "included" in my Subscription.

3. After the first month of my Subscription, I may cancel my Subscription at any time. I am under no further obligation.

4. dvdsforapenny warrants the Dvds to be free of material defect and agrees to replace them if they are returned within 30 days of their receipt by the Subscriber.

5. I acknowledge and agree that all disputes will be handled by the Subscriber and dvdsforapenny. dvdsforapenny highly recommends and encourages Subscribers to contact dvdsforapenny with any disputes.

6. I also agree that my monthly subscription begins immediately and I will pay $34.99 per month for my Subscription.

7. I agree that if there is any charge associated with being a Subscriber which results in a charge back to dvdsforapenny I will be liable for a $150 processing fee per incident and/or the value of the charge back.


I'm not a hater, but I strongly believe the charges should be visible to the surfer without having to dig the whole site.

cold_ice 10-06-2004 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
"The charge on your credit card statement will simply show www.sgada.com."



I'm not a hater, but I strongly believe the charges should be visible to the surfer without having to dig the whole site.

I agree. I as a consumer hate hidden fees:321GFY

FreeHugeMovies 10-06-2004 07:39 PM

I need to register Dvdsforapeso.com

pornstar2pac 10-06-2004 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FreeHugeMovies
I need to register Dvdsforapeso.com


way ahead of you:Graucho

Basic_man 10-06-2004 07:43 PM

Still the original :D

Nick_Moneymaker 10-06-2004 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BossDVDs


Dvdsforabuck offers users a choice from 1000's of brand new dvds, sealed from the studios, and their first 5 for $1 and free shipping. User are then enrolled into our No Long Term Monthly membership fee of $34.95 per month. This puts membership commitment at exactly $1 + $34.95

I would certainly think twice about trusting you with my traffic/money since it's clear you have little regard for your fellow site owners/webmasters.

This is from the DVDSFORABUCK website:

"As part of your monthly membership fee of $34.95, you will receive 2 selection credits for FREE DVDs every month, with FREE shipping!

Also, if you want the Adult DVD Special Selection, do nothing, it will be sent automatically. You will always have at least 10 days to decide. If you ever receive an unwanted Adult DVD Special Selection, just return that package unopened within 10 days, and you pay nothing! "

Implies that the cusomer gets 2 DVDs every month delivered to them for the $34.95.

WRONG! From the terms of service at their site:

"2. When my first 5 Dvds are shipped, I understand my Membership begins and that I will pay $34.95 per month for Membership dues for each month's Membership.

3. As a Member of the Club I understand that I may choose two movie titles which sell for $19.99 or less or one movie title which sells for $19.99 or more for every month I am a Member of the Club. There is never any charge for the shipping or handling of the movie titles which are "included" in my Membership.

4. The right to choose and receive the monthly movies included in Membership's terminate at the end of each month and may not be accumulated or used later. Monthly movies must be chosen each month. I understand that in the event I fail to choose my monthly movie(s) I will lose my right to choose them in future months or at any other time. I will not be given credit the next month and I will not receive a refund or reduction in monthly Membership dues. The Club highly recommends and encourages Members to use and enjoy their benefits each month.

5. About once a month (around the 15th) I will be shipped and billed for the Director's Favorite of the Month ("Director's Favorite") for the low price of $11.99. I understand that I will not be charged for the Directors Favorite if I ship it back to DVDs for A Buck unopened. I understand that if I open any Directors Favorite I will be charged for the movie whether or not it is later returned, unless defective.

6. When I receive my 5 DVDs for a $1, I may return them unopened within 10 days. If I am not completely satisfied for any reason, I may return the selections, provided the return is dated within 10 days of receipt, at the Club's expense and the Club will credit my account in full. There is no further obligation. I may cancel my Membership at any time.

7. You acknowledge and agree that all Membership disputes will be handled by the Member and the Club. The Club highly recommends and encourages Members to contact the Club with any disputes. As a Member of the Club, Members are offered a money back guarantee providing the Club receives any and all merchandise unopened for the said dispute. Any charge associated with being a Member which results in a charge back to the Club will be liable for a $150 processing fee per incident and/or the value of the charge back."

Read that carefully. The customer gets "credits" which DO NOT accrue. Plus they get charged $11.99 for the selection from them.
So basically it looks to me as $45 for a DVD per month for the customers that don't remember to go back and pick what the want each month.

We ship 4 DVDs every month no questions asked. The customer actually receives 8 DVDs in their first shipment. 4 for the penny plus the 4 from their first month's membership fee. All for the LOW LOW price of $35. No fuss, no muss. When the customer wants to discontinue the service, they can, but we ALWAYS make sure the deal is fair from our end.

bjorn_moneymaker 10-06-2004 07:49 PM

For anyone having trouble reading. It's very clearly stated on the FRONT PAGE of the www.dvdsforapenny.com site that the there is a monthly charge. We are NOT in the chargeback business.

Taboo 10-07-2004 03:27 AM

threads like this one usually end up creating more competition. :2 cents:

porn addict 10-07-2004 07:54 AM

Quote:

threads like this one usually end up creating more competition.
I agree...

Wiggles 10-07-2004 08:00 AM

People are sponsoring them on this board too, i saw a few posts in the last few weeks.

jacked 10-07-2004 08:06 AM

pretty gay IMO

Babaganoosh 10-07-2004 08:12 AM

This brings up bad memories about Columbia House. I couldn't cancel and they kept sending me shit like Bobby Brown and New Kids on the Block. When I refused to pay, they threatened to send me to collections. :1orglaugh

Those fuckers get serious about their $30.

PrivateIvy 10-07-2004 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
This brings up bad memories about Columbia House. I couldn't cancel and they kept sending me shit like Bobby Brown and New Kids on the Block. When I refused to pay, they threatened to send me to collections. :1orglaugh

Those fuckers get serious about their $30.


BaaaaHaaaa!!!! I did the same thing long ago, and they are Mad about collecting their 30 bucks LMAO

:1orglaugh


Ivy

sherie 10-07-2004 08:28 AM

Nick_Moneymaker, the point of the post is that you are stealing directly from their site. You have stolen the "verbage" that belongs to them. Do you know what "verbage" means?

Where's the number 1 from the TOS? Regardless, you or whom ever, blantantly ripped off the "verbage" on their sites. How creative is that? Not very. The point seems to be lost on you.

Duck it all you want, but the fact of the matter is that you stoled directly from their site.

AVM 10-07-2004 08:47 AM

Quote:

You mean like YOU stole it from Columbia House. You actually act like you invented a NEW idea... Look out everybody, only one person can sell porn now... Just take a chill pill, there is plenty of pie for everybody, in fact if you click on the banner below, our conversions rock!
I don't care what the topical "trend" is, and how everyone jumps to the aid/rescue of Boss DVDs. Point being, this quote - Summed it up, continue on with your business and quit bitching.

.:St Ides:. 10-07-2004 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bjorn_moneymaker
Boss,

p.s. I hear Blockbuster is pissed cause you stole their colors...

Ok a couple of quick things here.

First off, yes it is GFY so smartass funny guy answers are ok to use at times, but no they are not taken very well when you ignore bad biz practices asked by someone.

You are being accused of stealing wording from a competitors site, someone who is known and respected within our industry. Most people would want to defend their company and explain their side of the story as it pertains to the allegations on hand.

I think if you are wanting support from others in the industry you would address the issue at hand to show you do have proper biz skills. That way others will then believe in your product, it shows where you stand and people will then want to push you.

Also just for the record your sig is to big as well.

bjorn_moneymaker 10-07-2004 10:44 AM

I would like to reply to these allegations. The fact is noone on this board or even in the email I received from BossDVDs given me even one example of what "verbage" we allegedly have stolen.

sherie 10-07-2004 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bjorn_moneymaker
I would like to reply to these allegations. The fact is noone on this board or even in the email I received from BossDVDs given me even one example of what "verbage" we allegedly have stolen.
Well I hate to be Captian Obvious here, but it would be the shit that you didn't write yourselves. I don't know tho, just a hunch.]

AVM - blow me! ;))))

Kel 10-07-2004 11:20 AM

How are you making money off selling DVD's for a buck?
Just curious. Thanks.

candyflip 10-07-2004 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kel
How are you making money off selling DVD's for a buck?
Just curious. Thanks.

They're not really a buck.

Morphius 10-07-2004 11:24 AM

BossDVDs,

I don't understand what you bitching about.
I have been running DVD stores way before you thought about a DVD and let me tell you everytime we came out with a new idea, we had other sites copied us.
This is just normal practice of biz. Get use to it and just focus on your own business and you'll be OK.
I know this business from inside out and I know what I am talking about.

Good Luck

NinjaSteve 10-07-2004 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
This brings up bad memories about Columbia House. I couldn't cancel and they kept sending me shit like Bobby Brown and New Kids on the Block. When I refused to pay, they threatened to send me to collections. :1orglaugh

Those fuckers get serious about their $30.

hahaha! Well if they have 100,000 people paying $30 that's 3,000,000. So they're looking at the big picture.

BossDVDs 10-07-2004 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cold_ice
So a member pays 35 bucks a month untill they cancel? What do they get with their membership, movies at a discounted price?
Two DVD credits they can use to redeem within the members area and it includes free shipping. Also, as part of the club, they're allowed to purchase additional titles at upto 60% off retail.

BossDVDs 10-07-2004 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sherie
Nick_Moneymaker, the point of the post is that you are stealing directly from their site. You have stolen the "verbage" that belongs to them. Do you know what "verbage" means?

Where's the number 1 from the TOS? Regardless, you or whom ever, blantantly ripped off the "verbage" on their sites. How creative is that? Not very. The point seems to be lost on you.

Duck it all you want, but the fact of the matter is that you stoled directly from their site.

Exactly my point! I'm not upset that someone is competing with us. Just be a little more creative than STEALING directly from us.

SleazyDream 10-07-2004 11:40 AM

hummm, does that mean I get 100 DVDs for a dollar with this other company?



sounds like a good deal....

Manowar 10-07-2004 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DX
that site is sad looking...

not worth the penny.

:1orglaugh

DX 10-07-2004 11:48 AM

I like the posts where people are giving Boss business advice..

Priceless.

candyflip 10-07-2004 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
hummm, does that mean I get 100 DVDs for a dollar with this other company?



sounds like a good deal....

4 for a Penny would give you 400 for a dollar. No?

sherie 10-07-2004 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DX
I like the posts where people are giving Boss business advice..

Priceless.

I find them quite humourous myself...:Graucho

Kel 10-07-2004 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BossDVDs
Two DVD credits they can use to redeem within the members area and it includes free shipping. Also, as part of the club, they're allowed to purchase additional titles at upto 60% off retail.
So it's (given the member pays $35 per month) DVD's for 17.5 bucks with the right to discounted DVD's for the life of the membership?

BossDVDs 10-07-2004 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AVM
I don't care what the topical "trend" is, and how everyone jumps to the aid/rescue of Boss DVDs. Point being, this quote - Summed it up, continue on with your business and quit bitching.
AVM, I'm not looking for "aid" or "rescue" .. I'm just pointing out that a company has decided to finally knock off our adult DVD Club affiliate model (which I actually expected sooner!) BUT... and a BIG BUT .. they have stolen EXACT verbiage from all over my site... that is illegal. Even more, it appears like they don't even give a fuck. They're too concerned about defending themselves with the assertion that I'm bitching about competition .. I'M NOT, I AM bitching that they stole my shit. They are thieves, plain & simple. As I said before, I would be VERY careful trusting this or any business that resorts to stealing especially from it's neighbor.

Also, I will say again, we are NOT the first DVD sponsor on the net. Companies like http://gamelink.com have been around much longer than Dvdsforabuck. However, our model is based around the Introductory offer will a "commitment" type membership. We created a different, cheaper billing cycle for the user but which the user benefits more from. At the same time, we've been able to reward our webmasters will the highest possible payouts on time every time.

BossDVDs 10-07-2004 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kel
So it's (given the member pays $35 per month) DVD's for 17.5 bucks with the right to discounted DVD's for the life of the membership?
To be exact, a member of Dvdsforabuck pays $1 for 5 dvds (of their choice) BUT "the catch" is they become a member for at least 1 month. The monthly membership costs $34.95 and provides the member with a few benefits. One benefit is that they are allowed to redeem 2 free dvd credits every month and we pay for the shipping. Another benefit is like you mentioned, the ability to access our discounted DVD vault. A few other benefits exist as well with MUCH more on it's way. :winkwink:


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