Serious thread about DEATH
 

I've been thinking a lot about shit and it really boggles my mind about what happens after you die. In some aspectes I guess I can buy the whole "heaven" or "hell" thing, but I really don't know. Maybe when you die it's basically no different then how things were before you were born. Can anybody give me some thoughts or INTELLEGENT feedback. Anybody who wants to be an asshole in this thread, please don't bother posting.

I try not to think about it.

I know what you mean but no matter how much I don't think about it, there are always those times where I KNOW that it can and WILL happen at any time and it is inevidable.

You have no control over it, you're gonna die. Live your days the best you can and don't fuck others over.:glugglug

Why bother worrying about what comes after death? If you die and thats it, nadda, cease to exist, soul and all...

Why spend time thinking about it, when you only have on life to live? My thoughts are, when you die is when you truely know if there is life after death. Or you don't know anything anymore, seeing as you're dead.

Just try to live as long as possible... And hope there isn't a bus out there somewhere with your name on it.

so many philosophies already appearing in this thread. dont buy it'

thats the first rule

It's just that there has to be some kind of meaning to life. I'm not sure that when you die there really is a heaver, or if there is reincarnation, or if you are basically in an eternal sleep or what. I am just questioning the whole concept of life right now (a little drunk too)

The problem with this argument is that there's no way to know for sure until you're there, and once you're there, it doesn't really matter anymore anyway. Right?

I believe certain things. Nothing you're going to read about in some really old book or hear about on TV. I've been through things and seen things that make me believe something happens beyond just *poof* that's it. There is something amazing happening at that minute, but I can't tell you what it is. I hope not to be able to tell you for a VERY long time. :)

This girl I knew one told me that she was on some kind of medication and one night she woke up and couldn't breathe, and had enough energy to get to her parents. Anyway, she was clinically dead for like 15 mins or so, and while she was unconsious, she said that she had an "out of body experience" and knew the names of all the paramedics that helped her out during this episide. She's a good friend of mine so I know she wouldn't bullshit me. It just seems interesting that during when she was DEAD, she knew all their names cause when she was out of body she read all their name tags!!!!

learn to accept it and move on

we are all worm food in the end


unless you are cremated


id like to be burnt on top of a mountain

probably laws against it..but i should have enough money by then

NDEs [Near Death Experiences] are the closest things you will ever come to finding out what happens after you're dead, until you're ACTUALLY dead..

Read up some things on http://nderf.org

Though i doubt even they know what happens after you're dead.. but enough people have stated similar things from their NDEs to make some promising claims

For life in the present there is no death. Death is not an event in life. It is not a fact in the world. :)

i want to sit and talk with you one day

a show or something..dinner is on me

Interesting. She knew their names without ever having met them?

I think it's just insane how there is so much shit around us (Space, Time, the world, solar system, the universe, etc) and our life is so short. There has to be a REASON why all this shit exists and yet our life is so short!! In lots of ways I believe in evolution, but creatitionism I believe fits into it. But what if "god" created evolution. And what is god? I will admit I am not religious, but I still have a fascination with shit that I don't know much about.

Just enjoy life and remember to live twice as much as you work. Its sad when i think about how many people spend thier life working and paying bills instead of doing the stuff they always wanted to or spedning time with thier family. I would hope there is a heaven where we can all meet up with family members and friends (assuming they aren't in hell :thumbsup) but we'll never know until we die, and thats if we are even able to process a thought.

You can't possibly KNOW this for sure. The events you describe are what happen to the physical body. But there may well be more to us than just a physical body.

evolution is tricky, that atomic nucleus had to come from somewhere.

Yeah, there has to be a reason for every single thing that exists. From what a good friend of mine told me, life is simply a step, and when you die, you go to the next step. And there are either a certain number of steps or an infinite number of steps. I believe there is a true meaning and reason for anything and EVERYTHING that exists

Why?
We're animals ment to reproduce, and the human race has gotten out of control.
Born - eat - shit - fuck - breed - die
repeat with next generation

There is a great book called "A Glorious Accident" that talks about this and other thoughts. How everything has to be just so in order for life to exist... foes into full detail about what life HAS to have to exist. Really neat.

A good read if you want to bend your mind a little.

yea its kinda funny we will prob have to wait awhile before we get a answer to one of life's biggest questions.

That's utter bullshit. He just can't cope with the fact that he turns to dirt and wormfood after he dies, nothing more.

the Jesuits from europe missioning in the new world..south america felt the same way


but that was in the 1700's

everything for a reason thus there is no free will

Nothing will happen. You die. That's it. You go to sleep. You are goneski.

There is one thought that really boggles the mind. What if there was "NOTHING"!!!! Absolute ZERO matter in the entire known universe!!! Total blackness, total nothing, NOT A SINGLE FUCKING ATOM!!! If you think about that enough, it will start to hurt!!!!!

You can't possibly know this for sure.

Face it - you're dead, there isn't anything after, your personality is just gone.

Your brain and mind is totally biochemic and depends on your physical body, without it you can't exist.

Mind altering diseases like schizophrenia etc. proof this statement because they're biochemical caused.

it's not that hard to picture as it wouldnt exist


i like this thread..no one is calling anyone names

serious topic..i give it 4 stars

At 300 pounds, you're gonna feed the worms for a long time, dude.

It always amazes me how people think this way. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS BECAUSE YOU HAVE NEVER DIED BEFORE.

It's a lot more likely to happen than there to be an 'afterlife'

Can I come?

Good thing if my succulent body gives nutritions to a lot of worms.

But what does my weight have to do with anything? Trying to be witty? Maybe you shouldn't try, it's pathetic.

Yea thats cool man. This shit has really infected my mind at random times in my life. Although I hate thinking about death, I tell myself that one day I WILL DIE and there is no avoiding it.

sure if you are around

The concept of absolute nothingness is something that the human mind cannot process. You might think you can conceive of it but yout really can't.

Sometimes I have to think, is death basically just a timewarp to your reincarnation? And what I mean by that is, your memory is erased and you are reborn to another life form? So much shit to think about!

That's what is so crazy about it!!! It is an idea!!! What if there was absolute nothingness!!! If you compare that to our life and the solar system, the galaxies, and the universe than besides life itself, there has to be a meaning to everything else as well! Whether it has life or not!

But you are also consciousness and raw energy. Where does all that go at the moment of death? What about "the soul" if you believe in that?

you would be suprised at what the human mind can process

my last year of school dealt with n-dimensional topics...you dont need to see everything to understand it

can you process infinity? absolute nothingness is similar. what did you study in schoold, btw?

There is no soul and also no "raw energy" that could exist outside of your body.

Your personality can be totally changed through mind altering deseases.If an independend soul, raw energy or whatever you want to call it would exist this couldn't happen.

You might have done a better job of convincing us if you had posted your message in ENGLISH.

Just believe what you want to believe. No one really knows what happens when you die, and there never will be a way to know. When I think of death, I just hope I die in my sleep when it is my time to go, and that helps me a lot when I think of dying. In my opinion if you think of death as something negative, you will not life your life to the fullest. :thumbsup

I think you are finished and that is it, you live as what you are and when that no longer exists neither do you. :2 cents:

If the brain is a FILTER for consciousness/personality, one would expect that changes to the FILTER would affect how an individual's consciousness/personaility is PERCEIVED by others.

And you might have done a better job if you'd try to understand some english...

Tell me the sentence you you can't understand and I'll explain it to you, that's how it should be done...

That is a good hypothesis, the default hypothesis = nothing happens. BUT YOU CAN'T KNOW FOR SURE!

Did you ever deal with somebody who had some form of heavy mental illness like schizophrenia?

I am familiar with the disease and I have encountered persons who have been victims of it. How does this prove there is no soul?