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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-02-2004 02:03 AM

50 dead things

johndoebob 10-02-2004 02:13 AM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
I am familiar with the disease and I have encountered persons who have been victims of it. How does this prove there is no soul?
My mother had this form of mental illness and she's still able to remember everything of that time and tells me she was another person at that time.She is only able to maintain her normal personality by taking drugs that keep a specific biochemic level in her brain.

If there was a body independend soul where your personality was in, this couldn't happen, so if you're dead your personality is totally gone.

shaverhunter 10-02-2004 02:22 AM

I like to think we are so small and insignificant that my death wont bother anyone or anything at all.

The more I think of myself as a lump of shit on a tiny bit of dust that spins round a tiny star in a mass of billions and billions - the less I worry about dying.

It comes to everyone and everything.

As Stephen Hawking wrote - "we are a chemical smeared on a rock."


I just hope it doesnt hurt so much - but I reckon if I get cancer or something - I'll pop my head with as many drugs as I can and float away that way.

Hope that helps :)

Dont know what happens after - cant be all that bad - as Roy Castle said

BILLIONS HAVE DONE IT AND THERES NEVER BEEN ONE COMPLAINT!

:)

diesel 10-02-2004 03:44 AM

There are some things like death or endless way that most humans mind cant understand. Its beyond our fantasy or thinking.
Of course there is a reason.This is good point to start with to look for the reason or meaning of your life.
Good luck!

But dont get too psycho on it. Its all good. And the reason why you here is also good :).

DeadFidel 10-02-2004 04:26 AM

Death is like life; incomprehensible. Anyone that says otherwise is a lying.

Someone above mentioned total voidance and I have contemplated the thought, but that is a fantasy that we realize. The concept that is a fact and even more difficult to accept is infinity; time and space. Time always was and always will be. Space even gives me more of a headache. So there is a black whole a trillion light years away...what's on the other side?
That being said, I am keeping my options open. Thank you Jesus! (and sorry for taking pictures of that naked girl)

gangbangjoe 10-02-2004 04:38 AM

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Originally posted by mardigras
You have no control over it, you're gonna die. Live your days the best you can and don't fuck others over.:glugglug

amen

pixieboy 10-02-2004 05:53 AM

Why think about death when you have your life to live? Personally, I've got way too much stuff to worry bout already and when I get over them, I just try to enjoy my life so when I die, I'll be able to say that I have lived my life to the fullest.

$5 submissions 10-02-2004 05:59 AM

Western cultures tend to FEAR death.

Eastern traditions sometimes (not all) see death as part of life. Others extend it to a cycle of rebirth.

I fear death. Not the physical part of it but the lack of control.

I don't know whether I fear it due to the fact I don't know what to expect. Perhaps I fear it because it will leave me feeling incomplete.

Great topic, man. Its good to stop every once in a while and thick about one's mortality and ideas regarding it.

BT 10-02-2004 06:45 AM

Prey and hope you go to the same heaven as Jenna Jameson:Graucho

DogsandBigCats 10-02-2004 10:09 AM

Another thing that I think is somewhat calming when thinking about death:

WE WERE DEAD BEFORE WE WERE BORN!!!!!!!!!!!

diesel 10-02-2004 10:14 AM

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Originally posted by DogsandBigCats
Another thing that I think is somewhat calming when thinking about death:

WE WERE DEAD BEFORE WE WERE BORN!!!!!!!!!!!

Or in other words you can not say it was a bad time for you prior your life :)

mammy 10-02-2004 10:50 AM

great topic
i fear death too
and all reincarnation and reborning is bullshit for me
if reincarnation exists its like formating harddrive and installing new operation system
my personality will die too
so in case reincarnation exist we have total death of body and soul (personality)

Dagwolf 10-02-2004 11:04 AM

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ight=crosse s

Splain me dat, Lucy! :1orglaugh


Seriously... Ghosts exist. I'm not going to go through all my stories right now, but I've encountered them, many people I know have encountered them.

I don't hold seances or go around getting the shivers or keep angel statues all over my house, I don't wear a tinfoil hat on my head or read new age books or sit around humming with crystals.

But a couple of times in my life, I have been talked to by people who were no longer alive. I can't prove it to you, but I'm convinced.

KRL 10-02-2004 11:06 AM

I've studied this for 3 decades. My conclusion is the physical body dies. The soul and consciousness continue on in another dimension and vibrational frequency.

I believe interaction can still occur with loved ones who have passed on, though the energy frequencies have to sync for this to happen. This is why so many people are able to connect to the other side in their sleep and dream state when its easier for your consciousness to disconnect from the body temporarily and vibe up to the higher levels.

The soul intuitively knows its level of growth in terms of the Universe and can reincarnate into another physical type life for further soul growth.

I believe angels and guardians are souls that no longer need to incarnate. They've permenantly cross over into the higher levels of intelligence, love, compassion, and understanding. They are then compelled to guide and teach souls in the physical world and bring them up the ladder also.

At the end where you are at the highest level, from everything I've studied, you become part of the center core energy filled with pure love and intelligence of all that was, is, and will be. This is a state of eternal pure light energy.

Some souls don't cross over well. These are the troubled spirits that are often found in the half way there half way here state of being. Eventually they find their way.

You are held accountable by the Universal life forces for everything you do in each lifetime, especially what you do to others. Karma balances all debts and misdeeds done to others. Karma rewards all the positive things you have done in your life and in helping and teaching others.

It is extremely beautiful on the other side. You can get a sense of the magnitude of the Universal energy in this image.



http://www.internetmanagementservice...y/image018.jpg

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-02-2004 11:14 AM

God damn...

Just show me the exit out from this hell hole...

Admit it this place sucks folks...

Knowing death is like knowing what tomarrow holds.
All you know is what to expect. Perhaps when your life ends you will wake knowing your life was nothing more than a silly nightmare.:glugglug

Only thing about life is the perception of time. The perception of time will be gone, which I believe is the greatest barrier while living.

Imagine living without time.

KRL 10-02-2004 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by AlienQ
God damn...

Just show me the exit out from this hell hole...

Admit it this place sucks folks...

Knowing death is like knowing what tomarrow holds.
All you know is what to expect. Perhaps when your life ends you will wake knowing your life was nothing more than a silly nightmare.:glugglug

Exactly.

In comparison this really is hell when you think about all the horrible things we have to endure, see, do to others, and on and on.

I can't wait to back to the other side again.

Dagwolf 10-02-2004 11:19 AM

P.S. Thinking about death is fine.. but if you spend all your time avoiding it, dreading it, you're already dead.

Probono 10-02-2004 11:26 AM

You came from cosmic dust and to cosmic dust you shall return.

Man invented religion because man is a species that acknowledges death.

Religion provides answers to that which is unknown and cannot be known, it asks you to have faith. Therefore if you are looking for an answer to your question it is either my first sentence or found in what ever relgion you want to accept.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-02-2004 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by Probono
You came from cosmic dust and to cosmic dust you shall return.

Man invented religion because man is a species that acknowledges death.

Religion provides answers to that which is unknown and cannot be known, it asks you to have faith. Therefore if you are looking for an answer to your question it is either my first sentence or found in what ever relgion you want to accept.

Religeon is for the weak mind and those of little faith in what life is exactly. Religeon serves a spoon fed toxin to the minds of its worshippers tainting not only there perception of life, but death as well.

boobmaster 10-02-2004 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johndoebob
My mother had this form of mental illness and she's still able to remember everything of that time and tells me she was another person at that time.She is only able to maintain her normal personality by taking drugs that keep a specific biochemic level in her brain.

If there was a body independend soul where your personality was in, this couldn't happen, so if you're dead your personality is totally gone.

That is a horribly flawed conclusion to draw.

First of all, if, as I suggested, consciousness/personality filters through the brain and needs the brain to function properly, one would expect that brain disease/deterioration would cause changes in one's personality.

Since she is able to retain her personality when using drugs, it should tells you that it hasn't gone anywhere. It's still there, but cannot manifest through her brain without help.

boobmaster 10-02-2004 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DogsandBigCats
Another thing that I think is somewhat calming when thinking about death:

WE WERE DEAD BEFORE WE WERE BORN!!!!!!!!!!!

We were not conscious of anything before we were born because we did not exist. That doesn't mean we will lose consciousness when we die. It is a mistake to assume that if we live on after death, we must have also lived before birth.

Rob 10-02-2004 04:03 PM

I'm going to Valhalla when I die! :thumbsup

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-02-2004 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boobmaster
It is a mistake to assume that if we live on after death, we must have also lived before birth.
And you think you didnt exhist before you came to this place? This reality? This world? This very exhistance?

You think it is the first and only exhistance?
Or just the first exhistance of your entity? Once again I personally think you hold the value of life to highly.

I admit to having a problem killing bugs or stepping on them myself but to think this is your first exhistance is rather emm...

A bit egocentric, very much how all thought that the Universe revolved around the earth.

:1orglaugh

TheGoldenChild 10-02-2004 04:13 PM

I was Spero Agnew in my former life.

eroswebmaster 10-02-2004 04:17 PM

I think what it really boils down to is people aren't so much afraid of death and what's next...they are afraid of how they will die, and if they die will this thing we call life be it...and nothing more..all those chances to be "something" or "someone" are gone.

I remember being a young adventerous guy and I used to tell people I could die right then knowing I had lived...and I meant it. Death did not bother me.

Then I became complacent in life. Started going after that thing called security and found out it doesn't really exist..there's only so much we can control...and that's when I started having anxiety attacks.

I went through a whole period of my life where all I did was fear dying.

I equated that with death...because I sure as hell wasn't living.

So I started to live again...moved away from my home state again...it rejuvenated some of that zest I had for life.

I've taken upon myself to add some more things to my life recently that spice things up...and I feel like I'm back on that path to not worrying so much about dying due to lack of living.

The only thing I really have concerns about now is how I will die...will it be painful etc. And leaving my nieces without the security they need in their lives.

buddyjuf 10-02-2004 04:18 PM

I believe there is absolutely nothing after death

this "theory" of mine helps me alot in life

why?

since there is NOTHING after death, then life is ALL that I have

therefore I must make every day as happy and special as possible, since it may be my last

I will live my life being nice to people, being respectful, with a smile on my face.

because... LiFE iS Too SHORT to be pissed off!





Carpe Diem - Sieze the Moment

ChrisExtreme 10-02-2004 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
I've studied this for 3 decades. My conclusion is the physical body dies. The soul and consciousness continue on in another dimension and vibrational frequency.

I believe interaction can still occur with loved ones who have passed on, though the energy frequencies have to sync for this to happen. This is why so many people are able to connect to the other side in their sleep and dream state when its easier for your consciousness to disconnect from the body temporarily and vibe up to the higher levels.

The soul intuitively knows its level of growth in terms of the Universe and can reincarnate into another physical type life for further soul growth.

I believe angels and guardians are souls that no longer need to incarnate. They've permenantly cross over into the higher levels of intelligence, love, compassion, and understanding. They are then compelled to guide and teach souls in the physical world and bring them up the ladder also.

At the end where you are at the highest level, from everything I've studied, you become part of the center core energy filled with pure love and intelligence of all that was, is, and will be. This is a state of eternal pure light energy.

Some souls don't cross over well. These are the troubled spirits that are often found in the half way there half way here state of being. Eventually they find their way.

You are held accountable by the Universal life forces for everything you do in each lifetime, especially what you do to others. Karma balances all debts and misdeeds done to others. Karma rewards all the positive things you have done in your life and in helping and teaching others.

It is extremely beautiful on the other side. You can get a sense of the magnitude of the Universal energy in this image.



http://www.internetmanagementservice...y/image018.jpg


Very interesting, but I believe when your dead, your dead. That's it, nothing after that. That's why when my time comes I want to know I am dieing so I know its over. I don't want to go in my sleep the thought of that creeps me out.

Basic_man 10-02-2004 04:30 PM

I think there is NOTHING when you die! :2 cents:

boobmaster 10-02-2004 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bdjuf
I believe there is absolutely nothing after death

this "theory" of mine helps me alot in life

why?

since there is NOTHING after death, then life is ALL that I have

therefore I must make every day as happy and special as possible, since it may be my last

I will live my life being nice to people, being respectful, with a smile on my face.

because... LiFE iS Too SHORT to be pissed off!

Carpe Diem - Sieze the Moment

The problem with your theory is that if you are completely obliterated upon death, then life means nothing. What is the point of living a happy life if none of it will matter two seconds after you die?

DogsandBigCats 10-02-2004 05:30 PM

I've been reading some of the experiences on nderf.org and I particularly was disturbed by the one where the guy goes to hell for a little bit:

Link here: http://nderf.org/joe_g's_nde.htm

Now, besides the whole "Being Saved" bullshit, what exactly decides whether you go to hell or not? Do you have to have a certain balance of more bad or more good you've done in your life? Somebody once said you can be a horrible person all your life, kill people, etc, but if you turn good at the last minute before you die, you go to heaven. Any thoughts on this?

Zester 10-02-2004 06:42 PM

this thread is gay

DogsandBigCats 10-02-2004 06:46 PM

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Originally posted by Zester
this thread is gay
And you're an ignorant motherfucker. I said in my first post if you wanna be an asshole, DONT BOTHER POSTING!!!!


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