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Fake Nick 09-29-2004 10:15 AM

OMFG very dumb move by gov shwarzenegger !!
 
No Smoking in Prison!

Tue Sep 28,11:27 AM ET Oddly Enough - Reuters



SACRAMENTO, Calif. (Reuters) - California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (news - web sites), who set up a tent outside his smoke-free state office to accommodate his taste for a good cigar, signed a bill barring tobacco from state prisons.



The measure, signed Monday, amends the state's penal code to bar tobacco products from prisons and youth correctional facilities. Violators are subject to a fine.


Supporters say the changes will help save the state money on health care and improve the health of 160,000 state inmates. Some parts California's criminal justice system such as county jails have already banned smoking.


The state generated about $1 million in tobacco taxes and $370,000 in sales taxes by selling tobacco products to inmates last year.


Bill sponsor Tim Leslie, a Republican assemblyman, estimates that about half of California prisoners smoke, costing $280 million in related health care costs.




http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp..._nm/smoking_dc


health wil improve , but I see some inmates getting VIOLENT ! very violent :warning

slickcashlisa 09-29-2004 10:16 AM

Humm ......You think theres gonna be major problems here :helpme

Rich 09-29-2004 10:17 AM

They did that here too, talk about cruel and unusual punishment.

Fake Nick 09-29-2004 10:18 AM

I also would see an increase in jailrapes ! I mean some guys are going to go ballistic if they can't smoke anymore

groark 09-29-2004 10:18 AM

That is quite harsh...

Phoenix 09-29-2004 10:20 AM

good move...you are in prison you shouldnt be smoking like a free person

Pornweaver 09-29-2004 10:20 AM

Banned smoking = Increased HIV infections.

uno 09-29-2004 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fake Nick
I also would see an increase in jailrapes ! I mean some guys are going to go ballistic if they can't smoke anymore
Maybe it will cut down on jailrape if they can't enjoy the cig afterwards.

Babaganoosh 09-29-2004 10:22 AM

It's fucking prison. They SHOULDN'T be allowed to have smokes in the first place.

WickedVenus 09-29-2004 10:22 AM

omg the prisoners are going to be restless. I know when I dont smoke, i get in a very bad mood.

brizzad 09-29-2004 10:26 AM

damn.. i bet its about to get fucking crazy in cali prison now

foolio 09-29-2004 10:29 AM

wow did you know a good number of CA prisions ALREADY had a no-smoking rule?

jade_dragon 09-29-2004 10:36 AM

Sorry coming from New Orleans and hearing stories of Angola State Pen out in the sticks and traveling to Cali and seeing some of the jails I have no remourse. My x's mom is a lawyer and brought me to her office one day inside some government buildings, I was taking pictures of buildings for a project I was working on and I snapped one and the next thing I know "mom" is running over and taking the camera. I asked her what gives and she says, turn around and walk away. She then informs me that this prestine building was a jail and it was illegal to make eye contact, wave or signal them in any way or take pics of the building. I just laughed, they were in these pretty big rooms with a nice view of the park with ac vents and televisions watching cable and wearing street clothes. I had no idea it was a prison, those guys have it relatively easy.

Marcus Aurelius 09-29-2004 10:40 AM

fuck em, their prisoners. why should they get to do what they want. Dont like it? stay the fuck outta prison.

atom 09-29-2004 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fake Nick
No Smoking in Prison!

Tue Sep 28,11:27 AM ET Oddly Enough - Reuters



SACRAMENTO, Calif. (Reuters) - California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (news - web sites), who set up a tent outside his smoke-free state office to accommodate his taste for a good cigar, signed a bill barring tobacco from state prisons.



The measure, signed Monday, amends the state's penal code to bar tobacco products from prisons and youth correctional facilities. Violators are subject to a fine.


Supporters say the changes will help save the state money on health care and improve the health of 160,000 state inmates. Some parts California's criminal justice system such as county jails have already banned smoking.


The state generated about $1 million in tobacco taxes and $370,000 in sales taxes by selling tobacco products to inmates last year.


Bill sponsor Tim Leslie, a Republican assemblyman, estimates that about half of California prisoners smoke, costing $280 million in related health care costs.




http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp..._nm/smoking_dc


health wil improve , but I see some inmates getting VIOLENT ! very violent :warning

seems like you are the dumb one around here.....

bangman 09-29-2004 10:44 AM

If you're in prison, you shouldn't have the privileges of a free man. There should have never been smoking in prisons in the first place. :2 cents:

Manowar 09-29-2004 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fake Nick
I also would see an increase in jailrapes ! I mean some guys are going to go ballistic if they can't smoke anymore
:1orglaugh

zzgundamnzz 09-29-2004 10:48 AM

Fuck em... prison is a form of punishment. So unless there in death row of something they shouldn't be allowed a smoke.

Warden 09-29-2004 10:50 AM

Smoking is a privlidge and not a right. It's like grounding your kid and letting them play video games.

Fake Nick 09-29-2004 11:03 AM

wow lots of ignorant replys in here

FilthyRob 09-29-2004 11:04 AM

Cigarette trafficing will go up 100%

SlutFinder 09-29-2004 11:05 AM

no way!! that will cause huge riots!

Doctor Dre 09-29-2004 11:08 AM

I actually think this is a very good move since a lot of people will stop smoking totally .

JP Paradise 09-29-2004 11:10 AM

They should not be allowed to smoke anyway and then relie on the taxpayers to pay their healthcare bills....

DarkJedi 09-29-2004 11:11 AM

Nice.
Arnie is da man.

Kel 09-29-2004 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fake Nick
health wil improve , but I see some inmates getting VIOLENT ! very violent :warning [/B]

You being a taxpayer (assuming you DO pay your taxes), this is all that you should be worried about:


"Bill sponsor Tim Leslie, a Republican assemblyman, estimates that about half of California prisoners smoke, costing $280 million in related health care costs."

neverlearn 09-29-2004 11:17 AM

NO smokes in Ontario provincial ...thats old news buddy

atom 09-29-2004 11:19 AM

In 1997 Minnesota banned smoking in prisons which affected 5000 inmates.

As of July all Federal Prisons went to non smoking which affected 180,000 inmates.

38 states are now non smoking.


I have not heard of any huge riots, nor can i find any evidence of riots resulting from a prison banning smoking. I think this thread is ridiculous.

Please tell me why a person who has committed and been convicted of a crime has the same rights as a person who has not.

If you want to be able to smoke dont break the law and go to jail.

Nichebux_Tony 09-29-2004 11:23 AM

No :stoned means alot of angry Prison Inmates :feels-hot DO I hear a Prison Riot?:BangBang:

LiveDose 09-29-2004 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
It's fucking prison. They SHOULDN'T be allowed to have smokes in the first place.

strats 09-29-2004 11:27 AM

they should be given three ouces of coke, five grams of heroin and a carton of cigarettes every month.

strats 09-29-2004 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by strats
they should be given three ouces of coke, five grams of heroin and a carton of cigarettes every month.
and ther est of you can go suck a tit

Furious_Male 09-29-2004 11:29 AM

This is going to happen in every state anyway. Its a great plan.

Steve 09-29-2004 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FilthyRob
Cigarette trafficing will go up 100%
at least

Kel 09-29-2004 11:33 AM

I'm for giving them all of the drugs and tabacco they desire in that they forfeit their full heathcare benefits.

In my state, it costs an average of $48,000 per year to house, feed, doctor, and babysit each prisoner in our prisons.

Most honest, law-abiding people could not afford to live there even if they wanted. :1orglaugh

Steve 09-29-2004 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Furious_Male
This is going to happen in every state anyway. Its a great plan.
Guess what - drug use and ass raping is illegal, and it happens every day in prisons. Do you think these guys give a fuck about the law? They're in prison, law meants jack shit to them.

If they can smuggle in drugs, they can smuggle in a pack of cigs.

stocktrader23 09-29-2004 11:34 AM

Fuck em, they already pass out pills like candy.

dig420 09-29-2004 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
It's fucking prison. They SHOULDN'T be allowed to have smokes in the first place.
yeah and they shouldn't be allowed to eat or have a tv either

except we know for a fact that doing this shit to inmates causes bloody riots and makes them impossible to control. Just like with their religious bullshit and with Iraq, conservatives act like they live in some fucking fairy tale world where everybody reads the bible and 'getting tough' with people always fucking works.

In reality, it rarely does and this is a stupid, STUPID thing to do.

Phoenix 09-29-2004 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dig420
yeah and they shouldn't be allowed to eat or have a tv either

except we know for a fact that doing this shit to inmates causes bloody riots and makes them impossible to control. Just like with their religious bullshit and with Iraq, conservatives act like they live in some fucking fairy tale world where everybody reads the bible and 'getting tough' with people always fucking works.

In reality, it rarely does and this is a stupid, STUPID thing to do.

they only riot when given the freedom to do so


putting everyone on lockdown, is an easy way to get 100% compliance from everyone

the simple freedom of being able to go ouside is all they need to keep them in check...no one wants to spend ten years inside one little room

loverboy 09-29-2004 11:42 AM

good place to get that addiction removed from your body :thumbsup

stev0 09-29-2004 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Phoenix
good move...you are in prison you shouldnt be smoking like a free person
I think so too.

Houdini 09-29-2004 11:50 AM

What are guys going to trade for stabbings and blowjobs now?

xclusive 09-29-2004 11:55 AM

I think smoking should be outlawed completely and this is a very good step...

dig420 09-29-2004 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Phoenix
they only riot when given the freedom to do so


putting everyone on lockdown, is an easy way to get 100% compliance from everyone

the simple freedom of being able to go ouside is all they need to keep them in check...no one wants to spend ten years inside one little room

can't wait til you go to prison for slinging porn or maybe having a couple ounces of weed on you. Then you can tell us how much good it does from an inside perspective.

stocktrader23 09-29-2004 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dig420
can't wait til you go to prison for slinging porn or maybe having a couple ounces of weed on you. Then you can tell us how much good it does from an inside perspective.
Can't wait till you go to prison for having a couple ounces of weed on you where you can see the chronic rapist and the dude that murdered a family walking around the same room as you because the idiots are given the same freedom as everyone else.

atom 09-29-2004 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23
Can't wait till you go to prison for having a couple ounces of weed on you where you can see the chronic rapist and the dude that murdered a family walking around the same room as you because the idiots are given the same freedom as everyone else.
nice one:thumbsup

Babaganoosh 09-29-2004 12:10 PM

Prison is punishment. It's not supposed to be fun or comfortable. They need to have nutritious but bland food, nothing but milk & water, NO T.V., no smokes, no candy, no personal property with the exception of personal hygiene items. Most prisons right now are more like dorms and don't really serve as an effective punishment or deterrent.

When you become a prisoner, your freedoms should be gone. You should not be able to dictate how you will behave. Violence from the inmates should be met with more violence by the guards and loss of even more freedoms instead of increasing the prisoners rights and privileges.

Bugbee 09-29-2004 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WickedVenus
omg the prisoners are going to be restless. I know when I dont smoke, i get in a very bad mood.
yes but you are not in Jail

Strife 09-29-2004 12:11 PM

Who knows, it might reduce crime as it's just another reason for people not to want to go to jail. :2 cents:

Babaganoosh 09-29-2004 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23
Can't wait till you go to prison for having a couple ounces of weed on you where you can see the chronic rapist and the dude that murdered a family walking around the same room as you because the idiots are given the same freedom as everyone else.
:thumbsup


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