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Centurion 09-07-2004 12:13 AM

Bush's "bounce" in poll actually small!
 
The CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll of 1,018 adult Americans, including 778 likely voters and 926 registered voters, was conducted by telephone September 3-5.

Bush's convention bounce appeared to be 2 percentage points.

Incumbents have gotten an average bounce of slightly more than 6 points in previous elections, so Bush's apparent bounce seems small by historical standards.

Kerry got no bounce coming out of the Democratic convention, making Bush's movement appear robust.

Still, the 2 percentage point bounce could be illusory, since the poll's margin of error was plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...oll/index.html

Centurion 09-07-2004 12:22 AM

Anyone that thinks Bush has this election locked up is crazy.

It's still a dead heat and almost ANYTHING can happen in the next 60 days that could tilt it big time either way.

(Personally I see a weak but recovering Bill Clinton doing a major ad just days before the election urging the American people to vote for Kerry! The American people will be so overcome with joy to hear Clinton speak again and know he's doing well will rush to the polls in a herd to vote for Kerry! Remember how America reacted to Reagen's death? Something about ex-presidents really bring out the soft side of Americans!) :)

rickholio 09-07-2004 12:27 AM

Post convention bounces depend on the masses of 'undecided' to swing one way or the other, depending on how the spirit moves them during the convention. When you have an election that is already so polarized, the undecideds are few and thus the 'bump' is minor.

This is the main reason why you'll see the candidates focusing heavily on GOTV strategies rather than wooing the undecideds: there's so few to woo.

Getting lazy asses off the couch will be the determining factor in this election, I think.

baddog 09-07-2004 12:30 AM

Support groups are good . . . it is nice that you are forming it now instead of waiting until 11/3

MikeHawk 09-07-2004 12:32 AM

hmmmmm I dont know.....
what I look at is this the quiet majority, the ones that have put Fox news no.1 above all the other news network and cable stations...and that is head and shoulders above the rest of the other news networks.....

Its going to be close...

cherrylula 09-07-2004 12:34 AM

bush will lose, and I will smile while republicans cry and bang their fists against the wall. :glugglug

Centurion 09-07-2004 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rickholio
Post convention bounces depend on the masses of 'undecided' to swing one way or the other, depending on how the spirit moves them during the convention. When you have an election that is already so polarized, the undecideds are few and thus the 'bump' is minor.

This is the main reason why you'll see the candidates focusing heavily on GOTV strategies rather than wooing the undecideds: there's so few to woo.

Getting lazy asses off the couch will be the determining factor in this election, I think.

I think the # of un-decideds are down to around 1200 at last count. :1orglaugh

Centurion 09-07-2004 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MikeHawk
hmmmmm I dont know.....
what I look at is this the quiet majority, the ones that have put Fox news no.1 above all the other news network and cable stations...and that is head and shoulders above the rest of the other news networks.....

Its going to be close...

The "Silent Majority" has now become the "Quiet Minority" eh?
Picking up tricks from old tricky Dick himself!

And as for Fox being #1 (in WHO'S book?) and head and shoulders above the rest of the other news networks, I can only say..






:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

reynold 09-07-2004 02:12 AM

no to bush. no to war. no to terrorism.

Doctor Dre 09-07-2004 02:24 AM

I just fucking hope Kerry gets re-elected cauz this is gonna get ugly

slavdogg 09-07-2004 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Centurion


And as for Fox being #1 (in WHO'S book?) and head and shoulders above the rest of the other news networks, I can only say..


Nielson Ratings
FoxNews got the #1 ratings durring the convention

slavdogg 09-07-2004 03:00 AM

Let me be the first one to predict Bush will win by a landslide

Ecstasy Glass 09-07-2004 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MikeHawk
hmmmmm I dont know.....
what I look at is this the quiet majority, the ones that have put Fox news no.1 above all the other news network and cable stations...and that is head and shoulders above the rest of the other news networks.....

Its going to be close...

Fox news sucks. I prefer Jon Stewart's Daily Show by far. :321GFY

Centurion 09-07-2004 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by slavdogg
Nielson Ratings
FoxNews got the #1 ratings durring the convention

So Fox News got a #1 rating (ya didn't say from WHOM) during the Republican Convention. Does that really suprise you since it's a Republican news channel?

crowkid 09-07-2004 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Centurion
The CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll of 1,018 adult Americans, including 778 likely voters and 926 registered voters, was conducted by telephone September 3-5.

Bush's convention bounce appeared to be 2 percentage points.

Incumbents have gotten an average bounce of slightly more than 6 points in previous elections, so Bush's apparent bounce seems small by historical standards.

Kerry got no bounce coming out of the Democratic convention, making Bush's movement appear robust.

Still, the 2 percentage point bounce could be illusory, since the poll's margin of error was plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...oll/index.html


Keep thinking happy thoughts, whatever floats your boat :1orglaugh

block 09-07-2004 12:56 PM

I hope Kerry gets elected, but I dont think it's gonna happen. :Graucho

Rich 09-07-2004 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MikeHawk
hmmmmm I dont know.....
what I look at is this the quiet majority, the ones that have put Fox news no.1 above all the other news network and cable stations...and that is head and shoulders above the rest of the other news networks.....

Its going to be close...

You're so stupid, you keeping repeating this over and over again like it means something.

Let me explain.

No intelligent people watch Fox News. Intelligent people get their news from a variety of newspapers, magazines, websites, public news and to a lesser extent other cable news networks. Smart people don't like getting one point of view summed up in 30 seconds on complicated issues.

On the other hand, the people who watch Fox only watch Fox. They don't watch other news networks that pretend to be unbiased, they like having one party's talking points parroted over and over again. These are the morons who are going to vote for Bush for reasons like "he's decisive" and "tough on terror" and "Kerry's a flip flopper".

Look at what % of Americans watch Fox or CNN, it's not very high. Fox may be number 1 in terms of market share, but that hardly means even close to the majority of Americans watch it.

The trailer park inbreeds who watch that network are all going to vote for Bush because the flag waiving network tells them to, but they hardly represent a "quiet majority".

Manowar 09-07-2004 01:18 PM

:1orglaugh

baddog 09-07-2004 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
I just fucking hope Kerry gets re-elected cauz this is gonna get ugly
re-elected? now I know you are high

crowkid 09-07-2004 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich
You're so stupid, you keeping repeating this over and over again like it means something.

Let me explain.

No intelligent people watch Fox News. Intelligent people get their news from a variety of newspapers, magazines, websites, public news and to a lesser extent other cable news networks. Smart people don't like getting one point of view summed up in 30 seconds on complicated issues.

On the other hand, the people who watch Fox only watch Fox. They don't watch other news networks that pretend to be unbiased, they like having one party's talking points parroted over and over again. These are the morons who are going to vote for Bush for reasons like "he's decisive" and "tough on terror" and "Kerry's a flip flopper".

Look at what % of Americans watch Fox or CNN, it's not very high. Fox may be number 1 in terms of market share, but that hardly means even close to the majority of Americans watch it.

The trailer park inbreeds who watch that network are all going to vote for Bush because the flag waiving network tells them to, but they hardly represent a "quiet majority".


Would these same "intelligent" people be getting their misinformed, misguided, views from Michael Moore too? :1orglaugh


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