Re: APC
 

Isn't it a true bitch when a majority of webmasters fall for the hype and then everything turns into a fiasco?

Not bashing APC here, just midly amused about the numerous threads on how excited some are on special promos that they setup for the $75 PPS day, and then how disappointed they came out of it.

Could have been a better start for APC, ey?

lol ... biskoppen got OWNED big time :winkwink:

It's a good start for them offcourse.

First they take over GFY with sigs
Then they take over the Board with the design
Then they take over about 80% of all traffic the webmasters have on daily base

I bet they are still pushing traffic because nobody want to go to the bank with a $225 check

Too bad many WM's don't walk around with open eyes :)


Good job, APC :Graucho


S.

when a surfer see the same site the same day 13213232112 times ofcourse the ratios will be in the shitter
i was very happy in the beta testing :thumbsup

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Who hacked Oracle Porn's account?

Anyhow good post :thumbsup :thumbsup

So they most got shitty sales even with free trials and new exclusive websites ..
Wah .. So what makes per signup programs more successful then reccuring?

you can know that the program is doing everything to maximise the traffic, or they are the ones without the money.

revshare programs, it doesnt matter if a surfer cancels a day after he joins, their not out any money.

you meant pps?

Equinox I'm not sure who or how you are basing that statement, but I for 1 did pretty well on opening day and are continuing to do so. Right now my ratio is 1:691 that is not bad at all for the mix of traffic I'm throwing at APC various sites. :)

Personally I couldn't care less... you are all welcome forward your $2.25 checks to me, I will cash that shit within hours.

01. Hmm.. I'm not quite sure - but I think it was APC who got owned, not me ;) It's not my paysite which did 3 sales from a higher HUN listing. And trust me - my gallery design should do it all right.

02. My paid spot costed $150 .. 3 sales of $70 = $210 ..

Have a nice day, sonny

APC has a successful program. I do very well them them and they have a wide variety of sites. I convert steadily. That's alot more I can say compared with 90% of the programs I have tested.

it does for me, lets say i get a $225 check

it costs $15 per check ( processing and stuff )

then only $210 left + USD -> EURO is about 160 euro - 35/40% to goverment

is about 105 euro left from 225 usd

I am basing my statement on numerous threads in the past few days that were full of expectations and anxiety about the new program, and mostly ended up in disappointment and shitty ratios.

hehe you are a sweet little thingy...

I had en even higher listing than Biskoppen - I made a good profit.. BUT... if it wasn't because of the $75 per sale, I would have made a profit.. so...
APC didn't cut it for me, hence they are a bad name in my book...

Not that they are bad people at all - I have huge respect for the way they promoted them selves...

Yeah they will do everything .. I saw their dialer chain ..
But what is left for you as affiliate after your traffic has been brutally fucked with dialers and x sales? 3 sales with 1:1500 ratios?

I dont get it

Actually yes there were many threads on the topic. But most of them all started during the grand opening, and in no way gave the program a chance. You can't expect fantastic results with any program from hit #1. Also after the big day was over, most people did in fact end up with at least some sales and many people also had decent results. Even Battus (the biggest basher of APC from the start) ended up with ok results from the traffic he sent. Also APC launched so fast people didn't really have the time to make high quality ads for it, and most just slammed together some traffic from low quality traffic sources. I personally just tossed up some links here and there from lower quality sources, and ended up doing just as well as any other sponser program. Right now I'm 1:691 and with a bit of work and time, that can be improved greatly I'm sure.:2 cents:

You got OWNED because you posted sth like

- i will make at least 20+ signups .. everything else is a joke
- i expect 70 signups

then you made 3 signups :glugglug

personally, at the promo day i made 6 sales with a 1:550 ratio. with 0 $ investment and a LOT less traffic than you got ...

not the world, but still better than 3 sales from a PAID hun listing :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

on bigger checks you also have to pay 35-40% taxes , not?

yeah so why would i promote a $75 per signup for 1 day and get a $375 check if i could pump with the same traffic about 4/6 more signups with a other sponsor and get 1 big check instead of 1 big and 1 small one?

You might wanna stick to the truth smurf, I never said I'd get at least 20 sales - and I never said I'd expect 70 signups.

Are you a writer at "Believe it or not" ?

I'm doing 0:600 at the moment and that's not good. Even Nasty Dollars is doing better for me.

Hey DaLord, it's very hard to tell anything from 600 hits unless it's SE traffic ofcourse :2 cents:

Here are 3 Smilies

:Graucho :Graucho :Graucho

Go learn english and come back the day you understand what people write

I'm not even sure why I'm wasting my time on this

when will people learn that recurring with quality sites beats PPS hands down? :Graucho Rebill months right side outlined 15 bucks per month per member:glugglug 75 per join :1orglaugh

http://www.feetfantasys.com/rebill1.gif

http://www.feetfantasys.com/rebill2.gif

http://www.feetfantasys.com/rebill3.gif

some people are shortermers and others are longtermers.....nice anyhow :)

idiots only fall for hype, they are looking for one sale to pay their cell phone bills,

no new programs ever get me excited its all the same shit. $75 now that is funny.

if revshare programs are so great, why don't the big programs have revshares on their exit consoles

All I can tell you is you add up those rebill months x 15 bucks and tell me were you make more money? Who says what PPS sponsors do is the best idea? :glugglug

Same here good post.

I dont care too much about the hyped up "blabla Crazy per signup" days and such.

I stick to what i have been doing and dont fall for the hype

Apc is converting really well for me. I average 1:250 to 1:300 from tgp,mpg and freesite traffic.

Heh, and I visited this topic thinking of Armored Personnel Carriers.

cuz Veterans Day thinks he knows it all so well :1orglaugh

Umm, because PPS sponsors prefer to be paid up front, so they can pay affiliates?

And, some of hte big sponsors do run revshares in their exits.

You're an idiot.

:1orglaugh

Army on the brain ?

It's a very solid indicator of just where most of the webmasters at GFY are at.

:Graucho

Hey pimps!!

This is probably a little off topic but I did want to say that we will actually be offering a partnership program here soon at APC for those of you who would prefer that sort of system.. its just that I'm an anal retentive perfectionist programmer and I won't open it till I feel its working all the way. I got a few things in the recurring side of the system that I want to check out and go over one more time before we open it :) I'm guessing 2-3 weeks if all goes as planned and nothing major comes up that side tracks me.. which unfortunately happens all too often.. lol..

Also hawg was talking about doing a CCBill thing where you would signup at CCBill and use CCBill tracking codes etc giving you guys more than one system/way to promote us which would of course solely rely on CCBill tracking for those of you who are skeptical of our system.. that's still in the R&D phase though.

I'd also like to add, good thread! I like seeing both sides of everyones stories, really gives me a good perspective of things. :D

Take care,
- ViGuru

edit: fixed a typo.. lol :D

I'm glad you didn't take this as a bashing! I just tried to comment on the recent hype and its reactions. :thumbsup

I think a good mixture of PPS and revshare works best. For my mainstream traffic, I use PPS, for smaller niches revshare.

The harder it is for a surfer to find free content in a specific niche, the more likely he'll stay a member for many months or even years when you feed him with exclusive content, it's no rocket science.

Thanks i didn't know that about myself.