Should America Open its Borders? Free Immigration?
 

Think about it... the greatest fundamental industrial change to the USA occurred when it practiced open migration in the late 1800s.

Maybe if the US opens it's borders and ports again it will experience the same fundamental change that improved it immensely.

Your thoughts?

are you nuts?

NO!

what he said!

it's about time we send some of these cocksuckers back where they came from.

hahaha.. are you crazy?...

They wont do that, even if it's a fact what you said.

Samuel

YEp.. and close for all international departure.. ones in u never get out. and that counts 4 US citizen 2..

damn ther would be a lot less war around :)

You think they are really closed?

This country was built by illegal immigrants.

anyone from anywhere can get to usa , what's the problem ?

The only right way to reply.

YES ... they should definatley completely destroy their economy :thumbsup

It's just "closed" (not 100%, they give a few thousads greencards) for legal immigration.

Letting new brainpower into country is a good thing. I dont think I would open it up totally. There has to be some safeguards in place :2 cents:

My wife's best friend is in USA. She just didn't come back.

:1orglaugh

Yep. The Alamo was all about a bunch of illegal immigrants that fought back against the Mexican government.:thumbsup

US Immigration has been rising rather steadily since the 1930s.

Unless you're 100% native American you're a complete fool.

yes open the boarders LET ME OUT :helpme

If you can enter USA on a plane (and have money for the tickets), you're qualified to be an "illegal immigrant". You don't need to cross the Mexico borders or something like that.

"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door."

:1orglaugh

God bless the French. That Statue of Liberty was the best joke they've played on you.

The US is wide open for EVERYBODY except those who try to do it legally.

Who of you guys is a real native-American? So I do not mean the British, Dutch, Italian or afro-American...

If you send everyone back, Sitting Bull finally has back his territory. :1orglaugh

Anyone remeber the american dream?

Yes, open the boarders.

Sure, just as long as you open your borders in Sweden for all muslims. You go first and show us how great it works then we'll go second.

It's obvious you aren't in Texas if you want open borders. The Interstate is already so crowded it's a nightmare and there is no public transportation.

The Melting Pot is a failure.

Statue. Made in France
Inscription. Made in USA

Yes, everything in America is a failure. Her culture, her system of government, her laws, her immigration, her educational system. Small wonder she stumbled herself to the top and became the world's most powerful nation.

heck i thought it was already opened.... and we let more in and send more work out to other companies

Yes it should but no it shouldn't.

Well you sure have changed your tune since then.

Maybe it should be changed to read: "We're full! Fuck off!"

It already has...look at the mexicans that enter daily

No. I say put troops on the border to stop illegal immigration and then increase legal immigration.

The one aspect of immigration that has really suffered since 9/11 has been the approval process for student visas. Engineering, medical, even law schools are now reporting a significant decline in applications from foreign students. A review of immigration to this country for educational purposes is appropriate, but changes need to be made to expedite the process or else we will see a significant decline in the brain power exported here.

How much of that has to do with your population?

How do you think things would change if:

The population of Great Britain increased by 500%
The population of Canada increased by 900%
THe population of Australia increased by 1,500%

At least then we'd all be on a level playing field.

A lot!

Exactly.

The main reasons I say this is for one thing with the terrorism threat the US faces now having an open border would be very stupid and dangerous. Second, is taxes. Illegal immigrants often don't pay taxes and then send their children to schools, and go to the emergency rooms and free clinics for all their medical needs thereby draining the system with out adding to it. You don't have that problem nearly as much with legal documented immigrants.

FUCK NO.

Why not, more cheap content....

BMF

:thumbsup

good idea :1orglaugh but it`s utopia...

Nobody in their right mind could ignore the effect that population has on the distribution of power in the world among nation-states. This has always been the case.

Some people though tend to point to cultural and artificial differences between nations and think this is causing a "decline of American power". This ranges from the inane such as McDonald's fast food to the insane such as the American press. (the majority of anti-American of anti-Bush stories that show up on GFY come from American reporters). People ask "how can people think so differently than me?" and then mythologize the answer to include things like "Americans don't have a critical press". People have difficulty believing that people can have access to the same information as them and have a different belief as to how to interpret it.

With the breakup of the USSR America is more powerful today relative to the rest of the world than she was 20 years ago.

America won't decline as much as other nations will rise up. The population advantage will shift toward Asia. Too bad you'll be dead.

Isn't Colin an Irish name?

Hell no!

Well I don't care, I'm Canadian and proud of it ! :D

No thank you, one Cuba is more then enough :)

The internet has really levelled the playing field in the distribution of information. Prior to the mid 90s though, I would disagree that American press was so diverse. Pockets of America were exposed to widely varying opinions but the majority of America was educated to current affairs but their local newspaper and the three biggies on TV, ABC/CBS/NBC. All you had to do was leave the United States and see even the Toronto Globe or the London Newspapers to see that the majority of American journalism was in fact slanted pro American. I left the United States for a year in the mid 80s and it was a real eyeopener to me how the media really can kill or extend the life of any issue and just how much American journalism is in fact opinion.

Funny people alway say only Indians are true Americans
why because they were born there from the beginning. WTF I say you come from where you were born. I should be a bastard to the world because I was born in the USA but I am not an Indian. Like the board says GFY....

fuck that