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Dirty F 04-29-2004 11:13 AM

Did they show those iraqi prisoner pictures in the US?
 
Was just watching the Dutch news and they showed some American kids err i mean soldiers who took quite disturbing pics of prisoners in iraq. Naked, blindfolded, humiliated, letting them stand on crates with wires attached to them and telling them if they fall they would be electrocuted etc.

They said here that only cbs had these pics but the the Bush administration basically forbid the tv channels to show these pics. Now im wondering, is this true?

MattO 04-29-2004 11:14 AM

They showed them on 60 Minutes last night.

FuqALot 04-29-2004 11:15 AM

Probably, or the live war streams will be stopped. And none wants that.

dropped9 04-29-2004 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MattO
They showed them on 60 Minutes last night.
Fuck I missed them!!!!!

kimzar 04-29-2004 11:38 AM

I saw them on cnn earlier today

Dirty F 04-29-2004 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kimzar
I saw them on cnn earlier today
Ah ok, good to know the goverment doesnt stop people from showing things like this.

mrniceguy 04-29-2004 11:42 AM

I think not!

stev0 04-29-2004 11:42 AM

what idiots...

bhutocracy 04-29-2004 05:10 PM

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2004/...npyramid,0.jpg
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2004/...oodedman,0.jpg

MrJackMeHoff 04-29-2004 05:16 PM


Wtf!?

Mr.Fiction 04-29-2004 05:20 PM

<img src="http://news.globalfreepress.com/movs/wonk/CBS/60Min/60MinII.US.IraqiTortured.01.jpg">
<img src="http://news.globalfreepress.com/movs/wonk/CBS/60Min/60MinII.US.IraqiTortured.02.jpg">
<img src="http://news.globalfreepress.com/movs/wonk/CBS/60Min/60MinII.US.IraqiTortured.03.jpg">
<img src="http://news.globalfreepress.com/movs/wonk/CBS/60Min/60MinII.US.IraqiTortured.04.jpg">

Mr.Fiction 04-29-2004 05:21 PM

<img src="http://news.globalfreepress.com/movs/wonk/CBS/60Min/60MinII.US.IraqiTortured.5a.jpg">
<img src="http://news.globalfreepress.com/movs/wonk/CBS/60Min/60MinII.US.IraqiTortured.06.jpg">
<img src="http://news.globalfreepress.com/movs/wonk/CBS/60Min/60MinII.US.IraqiTortured.5b.jpg">
<img src="http://news.globalfreepress.com/movs/wonk/CBS/60Min/60MinII.US.IraqiTortured.5c.jpg">

Mr.Fiction 04-29-2004 05:22 PM

<img src="http://news.globalfreepress.com/movs/wonk/CBS/60Min/60MinII.US.IraqiTortured.7a.jpg">
<img src="http://news.globalfreepress.com/movs/wonk/CBS/60Min/60MinII.US.IraqiTortured.7b.jpg">
<img src="http://news.globalfreepress.com/movs/wonk/CBS/60Min/60MinII.US.IraqiTortured.08.jpg">
<img src="http://news.globalfreepress.com/movs/wonk/CBS/60Min/60MinII.US.IraqiTortured.09.jpg">

Mr.Fiction 04-29-2004 05:22 PM

<img src="http://news.globalfreepress.com/movs/wonk/CBS/60Min/60MinII.US.IraqiTortured.10.jpg">
<img src="http://news.globalfreepress.com/movs/wonk/CBS/60Min/60MinII.US.IraqiTortured.11.jpg">

C_U_Next_Tuesday 04-29-2004 05:24 PM

WTF:eek7

nathan_f 04-29-2004 05:24 PM

these dont look right.. almost fake..

Joe Citizen 04-29-2004 05:26 PM

ahahahahahahahaha... I hope stuff like this just keeps coming out until November!

BYE BYE DUBYA!!

dav555add 04-29-2004 05:28 PM

Have you ever seen soldiers with such long hairs?
I doubt those are real :2 cents:

bhutocracy 04-29-2004 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrJackMeHoff
Wtf!?
It's the US winning "Hearts and Minds" this is going to go down so well in the region.. "immoral westerners forcing pure arabs to engage in homosexual poses and treating them like dogs" This alongside the latest civilian killings is going to ensure that Iraqi citizens turn even more against the US.
Now while I don't agree with the following, these acts could almost be considered war crimes and against the geneva convention, personally I just think it's about the stupidest thing to be doing tactically at this point.. I mean for fucks sake.. sure give em a little torture.. but take happy snaps and proof?? jesus.. fucking catch a bullet already you tools and do the allies a favour.

Mr.Fiction 04-29-2004 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nathan_f
these dont look right.. almost fake..
Deputy chief of military operations in Iraq Brigadier-General Mark Kimmitt said six US soldiers were being courtmartialled on charges stemming from the investigation into abuse of prisoners at the Abu Gharaib jail in Baghdad.

"We're appalled. . . . These are our fellow soldiers, these are the people we work with every day, they represent us, they wear the same uniform as us, and they let their fellow soldiers down," General Kimmitt said from Baghdad.


http://www.thecouriermail.news.com.a...55E954,00.html

They aren't fake. People are being courtmartialled over the abuse.

erehwon 04-29-2004 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bhutocracy
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2004/...oodedman,0.jpg
They told the Iraqi in this pic that if he fell off the box, he would get shocked.

bhutocracy 04-29-2004 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dav555add
Have you ever seen soldiers with such long hairs?
I doubt those are real :2 cents:

The US military has already bought criminal charges against 6 soldiers over it you french 'tard. Just goes to show you've got no concept of reality because you're blinded by your anti muslim zeal.

bhutocracy 04-29-2004 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nathan_f
these dont look right.. almost fake..
Jesus Christ, it's been all over the news for about 48 hours for fucks sake.. Your own generals have offered apologies to the american public.. do you live under a rock?

dav555add 04-29-2004 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bhutocracy
The US military has already bought criminal charges against 6 soldiers over it you french 'tard. Just goes to show you've got no concept of reality because you're blinded by your anti muslim zeal.
Ok Aussie boy :)
Now, when Iraqi kill, burn and hang charred bodies from a bridge you call that, a normal action from occupied people.
When some retards who happen to be US Soldiers, fuck around with Iraqi prisoners of war, you call that an ABOMINATION...

Sure, whoever did this needs to be punished, but let's keep thing in prospective.
1- those Iraqi prisoners were humilated but not harmed.
2 - They have hoods on, so it's not like they won't be able to walk the street of Baghdad anymore and be recognized.
3 - I am not a french "tard", I am an American "tard" if that makes you happy and helps you masturbate better :winkwink:
:2 cents:

Theo 04-29-2004 05:40 PM

Horrible pics. In army some people exceed all possible limits. There's an investigation now in Iraq regarding this issue that US army performs. From what I saw on tv already a woman general and more than ten soldiers are facing serious jailtime. It's both against human rights and unfair for the rest soldiers,the majority, which are not related with any action close to that, but gives wrong impression to the rest of the world. I think 20 years in prison would do them good.

Mr.Fiction 04-29-2004 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dav555add

1- those Iraqi prisoners were humilated but not harmed.

http://news.globalfreepress.com/movs...ortured.11.jpg

You don't know what you're talking about.

VeriSexy 04-29-2004 05:41 PM

OMG, that is sick :feels-hot

dav555add 04-29-2004 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
http://news.globalfreepress.com/movs...ortured.11.jpg

You don't know what you're talking about.

So pathetic, 150,000+ soldiers, 6 of them fuck up and everyone jumbs on the wagon crying for investigations and heads....
Every fucken day 150 people are slaughtered in Algeria, I don't hear any of you FREEDOM LOVER complain about it :2 cents:

Theo 04-29-2004 05:46 PM

you are the pathetic
i have no doubt that you would take part in such activities :2 cents:

slackologist 04-29-2004 05:48 PM

absolutley disgusting.. anyone that condones or makes excuses for this behavior should be shot themselves.

Mr.Fiction 04-29-2004 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dav555add
So pathetic, 150,000+ soldiers, 6 of them fuck up and everyone jumbs on the wagon crying for investigations and heads....
Every fucken day 150 people are slaughtered in Algeria, I don't hear any of you FREEDOM LOVER complain about it :2 cents:

You are one of those people who hates all muslims for the actions of a few, while at the same time getting angry if other people in other cultures do the same to Americans, right?

Anyone who isn't an idiot, including most of the U.S. military, believes there should be an investigation and the guilty people should be punished. Are you against that?

The people who did this are a disgrace to the U.S. Military according to other members of the U.S. Military.

dav555add 04-29-2004 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
you are the pathetic
i have no doubt that you would take part in such activities :2 cents:

Fuck off and go help the Iraqi people if you are so concerned.
How about you help the 10,000+ kids who die in Africa each and every day?
Aren't these children worthy of your attention?
How about you worry about the Kurds?
18 millions people robbed of their country by Syria, Turkey and Iraq. Doesn't interest you, heu?
How about the people from Tibet being slaughtered by the Chinese? No interest to you too I guess?

A far as taking part in those activities, I certainly would not, I was in the first gulf war and had to guard Iraqi prisoners, they were just a bunch of scared poor guys who wanted anything but to fight and die for saddam, they surely did not make us feel like abusing them, we only felt pity toward them :2 cents:

reynold 04-29-2004 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MattO
They showed them on 60 Minutes last night.

I missed those! :(

bhutocracy 04-29-2004 06:01 PM

I didn't call anything an abomination dolt, I said they were stupid for taking photos and creating evidence.. i SAID give em a little torture you stupid french poodle, no wonder you're not up to scratch mentally you can't even comprehend a simple post.

You are french, just because you ran away and moved to a different country doesn't suddenly stop you from being a frog.
You're like a recent convert to a religion.. you heap so much shit on france to prove to yourself and anyone that will listen that you're not french, whatever.. I can move to America tomorrow but it won't stop me from being australian. You're as american as the eiffel tower. Being a little bitch about your country of origin doesn't stop that being the case.

dav555add 04-29-2004 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bhutocracy
I didn't call anything an abomination dolt, I said they were stupid for taking photos and creating evidence.. i SAID give em a little torture you stupid french poodle, no wonder you're not up to scratch mentally you can't even comprehend a simple post.

You are french, just because you ran away and moved to a different country doesn't suddenly stop you from being a frog.
You're like a recent convert to a religion.. you heap so much shit on france to prove to yourself and anyone that will listen that you're not french, whatever.. I can move to America tomorrow but it won't stop me from being australian. You're as american as the eiffel tower. Being a little bitch about your country of origin doesn't stop that being the case.

Aussi boy, I fought for France, I risked my life, so I think that entitles me to state my opinion :2 cents:

Mr.Fiction 04-29-2004 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dav555add
Aussi boy, I fought for France, I risked my life, so I think that entitles me to state my opinion :2 cents:
You really are French? I thought he was joking. :1orglaugh

bhutocracy 04-29-2004 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
You are one of those people who hates all muslims for the actions of a few, while at the same time getting angry if other people in other cultures do the same to Americans, right?

lol this guy just can't help but be stupid.

These soldiers made their whole country look bad and the arab world even more pissed off.. some of their fellow soldiers might even die because of it if this is the straw that breaks the camels back for some undecided Iraqis to finally decide to join the armed resistance because of anger at the treatment of their countrymen.

bhutocracy 04-29-2004 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dav555add
Aussi boy, I fought for France, I risked my life, so I think that entitles me to state my opinion :2 cents:
I never said you couldn't state your opinion frenchy, I merely demonstrated how it's not worthy of being taken seriously.

dav555add 04-29-2004 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
You really are French? I thought he was joking. :1orglaugh
Technically I am still, yes.

dav555add 04-29-2004 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bhutocracy
I never said you couldn't state your opinion frenchy, I merely demonstrated how it's not worthy of being taken seriously.
Why?
Because I have a different opinion than you and all of the other freedom lovers on this board?
You are making a big deal about 6 retards who will get what they deserve and more when they are court martialed, end of story.

sltr 04-29-2004 06:12 PM

those soldiers were reservists put in a bad situation

apparently there were only 5 or so guards for 900 prisoners and the u.s. army did not educate them re: the geneva convention.

nonetheless, they went on a major power trip and hopefully prosecuted to the fullest extent of military law

dav555add 04-29-2004 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sltr
those soldiers were reservists put in a bad situation

apparently there were only 5 or so guards for 900 prisoners and the u.s. army did not educate them re: the geneva convention.

nonetheless, they went on a major power trip and hopefully prosecuted to the fullest extent of military law

Probably same type of person that would go and make fucked up pictures and videos of homeless people, I don't see those people that are appaled by these pics condemn the ones when homeless people in the US are made fun of in the same sick way :2 cents:

crockett 04-29-2004 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by slackologist
absolutley disgusting.. anyone that condones or makes excuses for this behavior should be shot themselves.
no one is condoning it, all involved including the brigadier general in charge of that prison are up on court marshell charges

Joe Citizen 04-29-2004 06:32 PM

:glugglug

Theo 04-29-2004 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dav555add
Fuck off and go help the Iraqi people if you are so concerned.
How about you help the 10,000+ kids who die in Africa each and every day?
Aren't these children worthy of your attention?
How about you worry about the Kurds?
18 millions people robbed of their country by Syria, Turkey and Iraq. Doesn't interest you, heu?
How about the people from Tibet being slaughtered by the Chinese? No interest to you too I guess?

A far as taking part in those activities, I certainly would not, I was in the first gulf war and had to guard Iraqi prisoners, they were just a bunch of scared poor guys who wanted anything but to fight and die for saddam, they surely did not make us feel like abusing them, we only felt pity toward them :2 cents:

I'm concerned equally for all people and I try not to discriminate them over any characteristic to the degree this is possible. I've been asked in the past here if the life of an american worths more than the life of a poor iraqi or a guy from another 3rd world country. For you as American probably worths more, for me they worth the same. Every life is unique and counts. America is probably one of the very few countries that can start a war to protect/liberate/rescue not thousands, just few american citizens. If you further think of this it's based on the same principle with what I stated.

The thread is about iraqi prisoners and not about Africa or Kurds. If you think this thread shouldn't exist please state it, I believe the opposite. As I said first it's sad cause these events can give bad impression for the general picture of the US army. I stated it's unfair.

If you want not your words to be misunderstood you need to make your comments more clear. Honestly you are the only one I keep misinterpreting here and by no mean it's done intentionally.

Floridiot 04-29-2004 06:35 PM

fuck their rights... look what those animals did to their own peopl give em a dose of their own fuckin medicine I say

slackologist 04-29-2004 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by crockett
no one is condoning it, all involved including the brigadier general in charge of that prison are up on court marshell charges
I should hope not. Those charged should be made harsh example of to illustrate that a liberating power such as the U.S does not tolerate this kind of behaviour from ANYONE under ANY circumstances.

KRL 04-29-2004 06:40 PM

The female general of that prison got in deep trouble over it. All the soldiers are being court marshalled.

Its dispicable, discusting, and a violation of the geneva convention, however out of 2 million people in the military your bound to have a few hundred bad apples, so its always going to happen. You can find pics like that from armies all over the world.

slackologist 04-29-2004 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Floridiot
fuck their rights... look what those animals did to their own peopl give em a dose of their own fuckin medicine I say
Sadly, i feel you represent a silent majority in the U.S.

dav555add 04-29-2004 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
I'm concerned equally for all people and I try not to discriminate them over any characteristic to the degree this is possible. I've been asked in the past here if the life of an american worths more than the life of a poor iraqi or a guy from another 3rd world country. For you as American probably worths more, for me they worth the same. Every life is unique and counts. America is probably one of the very few countries that can start a war to protect/liberate/rescue not thousands, just few american citizens. If you further think of this it's based on the same principle with what I stated.

The thread is about iraqi prisoners and not about Africa or Kurds. If you think this thread shouldn't exist please state it, I believe the opposite. As I said first it's sad cause these events can give bad impression for the general picture of the US army. I stated it's unfair.

If you want not your words to be misunderstood you need to make your comments more clear. Honestly you are the only one I keep misinterpreting here and by no mean it's done intentionally.

Fair enough :thumbsup
It enrages me to see that most people can't hahahahaha an opinion for themselves, they just repeat the bullshit they hear on TV...
Right now, French Tv is showing this shit over and over again, making it like all US soldiers are doing this kind of shit...
Those soldiers need to be and will be punished but they do not represent the US armed forces and the US people or the US government...
As far as me being a Bush lover, I think Bush mislead us and should go, however the Kerry option is not very enticing to anyone with half a brain and Nader is a joke, so we do not have much choices:(
:2 cents:


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