It is sick but not sicker than the invasion itself. Stuff like that tends to happen quite often during a war, that's one of the reasons why nobody likes to live under occupation.

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I'm Canadian, look at the location next time before running your mouth, and no I have not paid much attention to the news lately.. I need a break from that depressing shit.

Is that so? They don't qualify for "liberation" though? How come you ain't pushing for an invasion?

It's war, some people loose there minds. Blame the invasion instead.

If you took the time to research the facts about Algeria you would know that muslim extremists are doing the killing, you would also know that the Algerian president called on different nations to help them fight those terrorists, you would also know that US special forces are in Algeria helping the legitimate governemnt of Algeria combat muslims extremists who are slaughtering muslim Algerians.

But that does not interest you because this is not popular on TV and does not go along your beliefs :2 cents:

Does Syria occupying 35% of Lebanon for over 25 years count as an invasion?

If they are not allies i guess the answer to that is yes.

Oh my mistake, It's a "legitimate" government who imprisons people without trial and makes widespread use of torture. My bad.

Oh, they sure are not....
More like forced allies, nothing goes on in Lebanon without Syria's approval :2 cents:

This is just horrible...you can't justify this by any reason. All they are doing is signing their fellow soldiers to death. If we want to stop terroism we have to stop giving these people reasons to participate in suicide runs and this is not going to help in any way.

In my opinion yes but technically the Lebanese government requested there presence.

Well, actually, Algeria as you can imagine is not my favorite country :)
However, muslim extremists do not attack government people, they go to villages who are populated by poor people who are just looking to survive and slaughter them.
Their favorite past time is to open up the belly of pregnant woman and let them die on the floor...
They also like to behead people...

So, please tell me what justifies such atrocities?

And by muslims standard, Algeria is the 2nd most democratic muslim country, right behind Turkey :2 cents:

I didn't know Lebanon was at war with Syria.. I must need a history lesson.

wired stuff :helpme

Yes, they requested their presence or else:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

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Who's talking about Palestine?

My train of thought was distracted by this off-thread-topic side discussion :(

I'm sure there are a lot of U.S. soldiers (as well as Iraqis) who would like to kick the shit out of those fucked up soldiers who did this. Wouldn't want to be them.

when did france fight for anything?

A few rotten apples..

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it's just too surreal..

Gulf War 1, after that it's down hill :(

I don't like Turkey with all what they've done to the Kurds.

I'm not sure what you're talking about? Does it look to you like I wanna defend crazy muslim extremists? I'm just saying that the Algerian government is crap.

I think it's time for the Kurds to become independant..
It will be interesting to see what the US government will do to thanks the Kurds for being their closest and most reliable allies during this war :2 cents:

Dream on, Turkey won't allow it and since the Kurds aren't much of an economical importance, nobody would care to hurt there relations with Turkey because of the Kurds. That's the reality of the situation. Money talks. It's very unfortunate but that's the way it is.

I'm affraid you are right on this one :(

Crazy pics

disturbing! :(

These pics are nothing compared to what Saddam's regime would do to the prisoners.........

True, but who knows what goes on away from the cameras.

So you think Saddam is a good benchmark to compare how the US "tortures" prisoners with?

horrible pix.

but pix like this will add fire to the flame to put kerry in the white house.

watch it happen.

And that somehow makes it okay?

Seeing these "few" pictures is like seeing a few roaches in your home... You know damn well that there's a big fucking nest of them just hiding out of sight.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in614063.shtml

The video 60 minutesII showed last night

Is this is on TV or in the press in Iraq it is going to stiffen resistance. It is a big mistake in a military sense to mistreat prisoners. Better they choose to give up rather than fight.

I wonder what he was thinking while standing there in a corner?

Well said, I 2nd all that mate

I think it's amusing that some of the people in this thread that seem rather anti-US will condem the entire military for the acts of these people, but will then turn around and say that terrorist muslims are a minority and are not representative of all muslims, etc.

Just as it is with muslims and terrorism, these soldiers are a minority and they do not represent the entire US army.

Reality sucks

True, however, the problem is bigger than just this incident according to a Pentagon report.

I read a BBC article where a US army sergeant (if I can recall correctly) told the press that he didn't know they could not treat prisoners like that because no one told them. Makes me wonder whether these guys are fit for military service.

I am the biggest supporter of the US military, I assure everyone that all US citizens and military people are disgusted at these pics. This is the kind of stuff that Sadam and sons was doing to them.

Are these being questioned as fake? I was under the assumption that they were real.


Even if they were the guys who raped that female soldier, this is not the way they are taught to act. I'm sure these soldiers are going to spend their lives in a military prison.