People are getting too lazy....
 

I got two e-mails this morning that received the same kind of reply from me, I'll quote 'em here, I think they're interesting enough to share with the world:

And here's the second:

I can't believe how lazy people are getting... No, there is no affiliate program that updates my site every day. This industry seems to be getting overflown by people that think it's a matter of leaving your name and address at a sponsor and then sit back and relax... It's not. This industry takes hard work and A LOT of dedication. It took me almost 9 years of daily work to get where I am today...

We don't list hosted galleries for that same reason. I don't mind people making money at all. But I'm not ready to just give it away. If I wanted to list hosted galleries that you find on every single link-site out there I would sign up myself. It took me effort to get where I am. And when effort is showing from a gallery I will certainly list it (if it's a good effort that is ;-). Be creative people. Lucky for me there are people out there that will go that little extra bit to create great galleries to submit...

There are a lot of visitors on my site, they go there to see the galleries that just have that extra little bit. I know the traffic sent to the galleries is good, please let the submittions you guys send in be just as good. In the end it will help us both ;-)

That's sad and funny at the same time.

Then there's guys like me .. Who work 8 hours a day .. EVERY day. Damnit I can't remember the last time I took a real day off ...

And STILL no hun listing for me :Oh crap

Its also very true. Well said Hun. :thumbsup

People try to come in for quick easy money, it doesn't work like that and they just dont realize it. :2 cents:

keep on ;) there are more good TGps our there :thumbsup

"And here's the second:


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Is oki to submit hosted galleries from the sponsors that i use ??
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whats the work then? you list recip free galls too ;) save to,upload, submit

thats extrem lazy:thumbsup

Or extremely smart.

Better to work SMART than HARD.

Yeah .. but you know, as a gallery maker .. There's something about getting a hun listing. I've always wanted one ... I want to see for myself how that traffic compares to other MGP/TGP traffic.


I submitted a few galleries about 2 years ago. Whoever was updating at that time was really helpfull, and emailed back exactly why you weren't being listed. I was pretty new to galleries back then I thought linking thumbnails to sponsors as an ad was a good idea :(

I submitted a gallery or two a few weeks back .. But didn't get any answer as to why they weren't listed :(

What are people thinking expecting to get a sponsor gallery listed?

Probably because The Hun gets 1000s of submissions per day!

Everybody wants fast money... No1 have time to work and wait for results.. And is also true that if you will try open a similar site with thehun, i am sure in 9 years will not have a big business but some bad memories.. time is changing..

Yeah I understand that. That's why I don't just keep submitting there .. If I'm not getting listed, clearly I'm doing something he doesn't like ... Or doesn't like the content.

I agree. But there is somehing more as getting listed. My galleries were listed several times, but the sales they were doing weren´t the same. So there are two reasons, I think:

The first maybe is that I got different types of users. On the one hand those who were searching for a paysite out of a special niche, on the other hand those who were just searching for free content.

The second maybe that the galleries quality were different and some of them maybe weren´t as good as some others.

So it takes a large time of work getting listed and another large time of work building converting galleries. So I agree with you, work is needed for success all the time.

I was also going to add on there, to be persistent and keep submitting! Took me a while to get listed. Just stick to it man :)

..and yeah, use fresh content.

It could still be pending... it could be the mail got lost (somehow that seems to happen a lot lately) or it could indeed be you didn't get a reply... We're still very helpful, simply cause it helps both sides. People like to know why they don't get listed, and we like to get top notch galleries. So we'd be stupid not to let people know how they can improve their galleries.

In some cases, not saying it's you, people don't seem to listen and keep sending in galleries with the same problem we told 'em about before. In the end we give up declining those, they just are deleted. We have to decline a lot of galleries. Problem with that is that there are not enough hours in a day to reply to everybody. We do our best, that's for sure! ;-)

lazy people take the car to go for a walk ;)

Frankly, I'm running 100mbits solid on my server these days .. I need to get a second server up before I take a stab at more listings.

Thanks for the tip though. I appreciate that.

Daymon

Yep I know what you mean...kinda a double-edged sword hehe

I fully understand where you're coming from. And at the risk of the peanut gallery calling me an ass licker, I appreciate you taking the time to answer here.

You'll note from my previous replies, that I have only submitted a handfull of times. I really don't think I fall in to the case of simply not listening to your replies.

I am already running a large number of hits to my galleries (1-1.5 million daily) without paying for listings. Honestly, the only listings I've ever considered buying have been yours.

The price kind of bites a bit though, when you aren't used to paying anything at all .. My stratedgy had always been to try and get a free listing, see how that worked and try to caluclate if paid listings would work for me. Unfortunetly, it hasn't paid off yet.

No matter. I didn't get as big as I am without a little hard work, and I'm not afraid to keep at it until it pays off ;)

This is the Porn Biz .... it's all about Making "Easy" Money isn't ?

atleast that's what i've been told.
:glugglug

Yeah i have a buck 50 now pr week, how many in here can say that huh? :Graucho

trying to make the easiest money going

What a lot of the new folks don't realize is that most, if not all of us "old timers" had at LEAST a year where we were working 14, 16, even 20 hour days. Yes we can afford to play some now, but even still we put in 10-12 hour days.

Or am I the only one. :(

reminds me of " i sale ICQ "

You are not the only one. The ones who brag about working an hour a day are the ones who still live with mommy(80% of GFYers) and make one sale a day..oh yea + sig money.

Peace

ps. TheHun..Have I told you how much I love you lately :). My last batch kicked some serious butt!

:thumbsup

Hun is fuckin right.... the one thing DESTROYING this industry are hosted galleries.

A lot of good submitters are been replaced by hosted galleries once the site gets big... and I'm against that 100%.

If I were to give only one advice to TGP's is keep it clean and "hosted galleries free" and you'll eventually make much more money than a one shot deal with them....

Word


$am

Mr Hun thoses were newbs and don't have common sence . It's not all beeing lazy. I personally try to get all my sites to run by themselves the most I can as I'd be too busy . You make way more money if you program something that does the job itself OR by one of your employes instead of getting it done yourself.

I don't understand how it's DESTROYING the porn industry . It's just getting better . Less quality galleries = Less free porn normally . How can you make more money by giving more free porn and less ads .

TGPS are too clean as we speak and there SHOULD be 3-4 x time more ads per free porn given away .

There isn't only TGP in this big world ... only big traffic in tgping . Jimbo yesterday got 1000 hits to his sponsor and made 300 $ . That's just EZ $ without wasting surfers.

And btw if you don't get your galleries listed that's because 3/4 of the spots are sold spots nowdays ... since Dave Jimbo and couple other started buying everything back then it has become really huge . Soon all spots on any tgp will be paid

thos people think that they can just signup to sponser link to hosted galley and they finished??????
OMG lamers :ak47:

TheHun is a helpful guy. I've e-mailed before on some issues and gotten a response back. It's always polite, helpful, and fair with his answer to your concern.

alot of people new to the biz have no idea of the hard work it takes to be successful. it's not a get rich quick scheme. hosted galleries are fine.. just use them on your own FAKE tgp.

What??? Come one mang... honestly you're real off on that one.

I got no time to argue right now but I might just be back later:winkwink:


$am

Ok EXPLAIN to me WHY it destroys the industry ? It just destroy your gallery spot because there is less spots for submitters.

It also bring the productuvity of the TGP down a lil bit but that's the owner's business .

I was one of the first tgp to use sponsor galleries from all sponsors . I had a huge database of galleries and all sponsors made me custom galleries too ...

And yet I grew my site at 450k without any problems even with the 10 % prod cut or so that it was giving me .

It does not hurt the industry, only the newbs that can only make money with submitting and that don't have enough money to buy spots.

It's just a personal opinion you got about them because they are stealing your spots ... NOTHING wrong with a hosted gallery from a sponsor .

Its actually better . Less charge back since all the content used for the gallery is actually in the paysite and the webmaster don't make fake promeses.

I'm suprised you answered them, I wouldn't off, they don't warrent a reply.

I honestly don't think hosted galleries are destroying or even hurting the industry... they're a way of making money and for a lot of people it works fine. It's my opinion that if TGP's let themself lure in the lazyness of hosted galleries that soon they will be listing the same content, and away is the diversety of content. That's a good thing for me, 'cause that means that wil very little effort from my side (read: not listing hosted gals) I will have a link-site that stands out between the rest. Which means I'll have a lot of traffic, which means gallery submitters will go that little extra bit to get a gallery listed.

I started the tread merely to let people know not to bring their lazyness to me... I worked my ass off to get where I am today. Lots of people submit hosted galleries, or copy hosted galleries and put them on their own server (yeah, right, like we don't reckognize the gallery after the third time it's submitted ;-)...

I don't think hosted galleries 'take up' spots from other galleries. You have to remember that the 'regular gallery builders' don't have any RIGHTS to any spot on any link-site. It's a lot of work replying to gallery builders, watching 'em (yes, there still are a lot of cheaters out there), helping 'em, making sure the content is ok... hosted galleries are a lot easier. There are programs out there that don't even require a new link, so you have a daily updated site without any work. Just don't expect to make too much money with that.

Yes, some "quick money hunters" are popping up here and there. This is a matter of business - their mission ends when they understand that their easy bucks are not here.

But when FHGs are in question, their effectiveness is still lower than of handmade galleries, but the direction is right and many sponsors here get close to diversity and quality of handmade galleries

I need to stop emailing :Graucho :Graucho

Alot of people just dont have enought money to buy gallery spots for 400 bucks a month which is cheap. Submitting is really hard now a day. Its hard work. Partner accounts are great, but they also cost money. Its hardcore work work and work!!

I didn't know it is possible nowadays :eek2 :eek2

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

nutters...


I LUV U PATRICK... and U TOO MICHEL!!

The Hun, I've been listed twice without getting your email saying that my gallery was accepted, I'm wondering if your still sending those out or is it a problem on my end, thanks

you gave me a very very nice gallery link spot for my Valentina's Boots illustrated erotic story on Valentine's Day a couple of months ago, i can't thank you enough. :thumbsup

i am glad you enjoyed it and thought enough of it to give me such a killer spot for free. :winkwink:

This is a good thread and deserves a bump.

Too much ass-kissing here. He's right, but come on... keep it real.

I like that, is oki to submit hosted galleries? LMAO