Arabs have lost all sense of decency
 

One can understand that you want to fight forces or armed forces that you consider are occupying your country. But what happen to day is beyond comprehension.

For those of you who watched the raw footage on Univision, you will know what I am talking about.

They pulled a poor guy who is half burnt but CLEARLY still alive, some guy then comes along with what appeards to be a bucket and pours the content on the poor guy.
That bucket was full of oil. You can see the guy literally burning alive :( while dozens and dozens of men, children, women and olds are cheering, kicking and spitting on the bodies. Then they cut them up in pieces and hang the body parts on different places.

There is no word strong enough to describe such an horror. Don't come with you bullshit about this situation being the US fault. Under saddam husseing none of these poeple would had dared open their mouth.

How can it be possible that a whole people can do or approve of such acts?

It is my opinion that we are coming upon a major war with Arabs, as they obviously do not share the same values as we do and want to impose their views upon the whole world.

Very,, very sad situation:(

Wow. No amount of simple hatred could bring me to do something that horrible.

Wow.

I don't think they have ever had any decency. They don't care if they die, who's families they kill, or what they destroy. Very selfish, sick people.
:(

Thers is a lot of hate there. With so much hate nobody can tell what happens. When you see pictures of the camps in ww2 you cant imagine people are capable of such things.

so our views are the right views?? i don't get it.

I agree that was indescribably horrific, but please don't attach such things to the entire Arab world. That behaviour does not define the entire population by any stretch.

No one is right. They can live like we used to live in the middle ages, it is their problem, not ours. But what they have done is beyond humanity !!!
Have you seen the movie Braveheart?
Cutting up dead bodies and hanging the pieces from poles and bridges is what "we" used to do over 400 years ago.
This is 2004....

Go to al jazeera website, and check the polls there, over 79% of Arabs agree with the use of suicide bombers both in Israel and Iraq

I think its a mixture of fanaticism + ignorance



These kind of people are the same that would read the Bible/Koran/whateverhollybooktheyareinto and take every freakin word for what it is.......then women end up getting stoned to death for showing their skin.



For God's Sake we live in the 21st fukin century!! Join the fukin rest of civilazation!!!


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Yeah that is pretty sick... Fucking wackos.

are you jewish?

Exactly... To prevent this from happening,

GET THE FUCK OUT OF IRAQ

just like you got out of Somalia after the same shit happened ( BTW, they were not arabs them...).

:2 cents:

Why does it matter?
If I am, I am not allowed to make that statement?
If I am not then I am a pro Israel scum bag?

No, they were not Arabs, they were Muslims :(

That is defeinlty true Aly, i have Arab friends that are down to earth and know right form wrong. But i am a firm believer that they are this way because they were the wealthy few back home and were able to leave the country.

All these terrorists and suicide bombers probably cant count higher than 10

this is what happens when people rely on wonderful combination of religion, stone aged beliefs and brutal oppression to control their populations... and those people are suddenly free. its unimaginable to someone who has not spent a lifetime living in that environment... of course it's unimaginable to some kid from San Diego.

but i don't think its a big stretch for people in poverty, who have been completely cut off from the world for 4 decades and who have known nothing but torture, beating, murder, rape, oppression and fear.

The one who blow themselves up are not educated, but the one who send them to die are. The new hamas leader is a doctor, most of al qaeda leaders are engineers...

"these kind of people" ??

"the arabs" ??

Jeeze people, ok... first of all, yes.. they have reason to really hate the people occupying their country.

Secondly, the actions of a group are hardly indicative of an entire race. Or does everyone in the US share the same practices as the KKK?

Are you going to tell me that no one in the US has ever burned another human being to death? How about the woman who had beaten her two kids to death with a rock? Does that mean that all mothers do it, so there should be war?

Seriously.... there's messed up people in the world, and normal decent people do horrible things when driven to it, sometimes. I'm not condoning their actions in the slightest, but don't go declaring genocide on an entire nation, religion, race or even a group of people because of what you saw some people do.

Unless you can say that no one in the US has EVER burned anyone else... then it's not fair to judge a whole nation this way.

We are not talking about the act of 1 individual, we are talking about the action of 1 people. They do not live in the 21st century, they still are in the middle ages.

i saw the footage and i still say blow them up and see what they think about their people burnt to death, but i fear they wont care, seems they dont care about much

Tis true....this is why i mentioned about education + fanaticism

uh huh, so there's some people who are not as technologically evolved as you are so you should just wipe them out?

I'm not following you on this.

They don't email each other, and someone burns someone else.

You do email each other, and someone burns someone else.

So, based on that, you decide that they are animals?

Didn't that already happened ????

" Shock and ... "

Was funny and cool at that time, now it is different....

I only care for the deads because they were innocent ( as much as the soldiers) as the Iraqis... Wouldn;t shed a tear seeing Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, and the gang hanging charcoaled from that bridge...

Who said we should wipe them out?
Think about it, what has the US done that is so terrible?
They kicked out saddam regime and will let the Iraqi govern themselves in a few months after 18 months of occupation.
The point is that they are almost free to do what they want...
And like I said in the first post, those were civilians contractors who were there not to occupy them but to make their daily lives better!!! What about the 4 Baptits missionaries? Did they deserve to die? They were there building water wells...

During WW2, French resistance were constantly blowing up what the Germans were fixing: trains, electricity, roads, etc... as well as killing germans troops and COLLABORATORS ... They were fighting the occupation....

The Iraqis are now doing the same.... FUCKING LEAVE and YOUR problem is gone.... Just pay the damages of war you inflicted as the Iraqis have to pay Kuwait.

END OF PROBLEM!

So if a member of your family was killed during the invasion you wouldn't be doing crazy things? Personally I'd have lost my mind. Troops patrolling residential areas with tanks, curfews, checkpoint accidents, house-to-house searches, etc. should be okay with Iraqis?

They were muslim rebels...

:Graucho

Everyone knows that during an occupation the collaborators are a main target.

Arabs are damn near cavemen.

yes it does. all sand******s need to die

You don't know what it's like for those people any more than I do. You sit on the other side of the planet picturing them over there living in some new ray of light paradise that you feel you've given them somehow.

Sorry to tell you, but people love a harsh and ruthless dictator because they're forced to. Even so, they still love him. Just like they love their country. You know... patriotism? You've heard of it right.

Whether you like it, I like it, or even if they like it... it's their country. Or, it was... and now it's not. It's not how it was all the years they've lived and died there.

ok, I get the feeling that since you still can't grasp any of this, that my telling you after all this time just isn't going to make any difference.

All you need to know is that obviously if they're killing people out of rage, they're NOT happy. And no, forcing them to live like you do is not going to make them any happier. At least, not today, and not tomorrow. It could take generations, if at all.

What did the US do that was so terrible. They took away their country. It sucked, but it was theirs. And as a proud "patriot", I'd hope you'd understand that.

Oh, and I like what you said... "almost free to do what they want."

You and Bush must share notes on what freedom really means :winkwink:

i didnt know they had a sense of decency to lose

I think you can hardly compare the nazis to the USA. And if you do, then you are seriously biased.

one word: ignorance

Not true. The bus bombing 2 months ago was carried out by a female lawyer.
Education has nothing to do with this except making them much more dangerous.

:Graucho

Beside the point....

I am refering to OCCUPATION of their homeland by a foreign country...
Same happened in Afghanistan ( supported by the US ...) against the Russians...
And if my country was occupied by a foreign entity, I would do the same ... as much as Americans would do the same...

Think about it.

I was in post on an Arab country for 3 years, so I saw first hand what's it's like...
Before the US invasion, Iraqis had a choice between shutting up or being killed by saddam.
Today they can say what they want and are on the road on ruling themselves.
I know it is fashionable to be anti Bush nowadays, but try to be objective.

Now that they are semi-free, they are blowing themselves up sunnis/kurs/chiite and they blowing and burning as many infidels as they can

So you all went from "Fuck the whole world, we care and love Iraqis and we're gonna help to liberate them from the tyranny of Saddam no matter what." to "Let's deal with those sick fuck Iraqis just like Saddam used to. Fuck'em all." :)

So many idiots.

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95% of suicide bombers are undecated young people under 21

You obviously missed the point, as I said you would.

You are very close minded and short sighted. As incredibly stupid it is to have Bush running things, I'm still very glad that they don't find ignorant people like you to do it instead.

Today they are being ruled by another country, fed propaganda by another country and imposed a political system upon them. In short, they have no country and no freedom.

I would blow shit up to if my country was under occupation.

Do you ever write something constructive?
Have you forgotten when General Sharon liberated Lebanon and your people in 1982?
Have you forgotten when you people acclaimed the Israeli troops who had just liberated you from the Arab invaders?

I guess you are not too proud about that part of your history

I see, back to personal attack when you do not have a point, very sad and very weak

refreshing to see another more open minded, clear thinking individual exists around these parts...


well put btw....



some people just let emotions get the best of them, on BOTH sides...emotional people are akin to drug addicts...not the most rational thinkers...

I see, let's see what happens when a mob of CRAZY MORMONS lynch an arab guy in Salt Lake City and tie his body to a cross :warning

I disagree. Objectively, you can. This is an occupation, and no matter what you or I may see as the benefits of it, there are segments of that population who fundamentally believe that the US is just as 'evil' as we considered the Nazis. In our opinion, they're wrong of course, but let's not be shocked that they're willing to fight with everything they've got, and don't consider their 'liberators' to be worthy of humane treatment.

Saddam's regime was a terrible thing. In my opinion, it was great to get him out, but let's not now be shocked by resistance. And let's not lump the entire Arab world or Muslim faith in with an extreme segment of the population. I HAVE been there, for three years, and not within the confines of the armed forces or diplomatic corps... Seeing people refer to 'sand niggahs' and 'nuking' or 'flattening' the entire place simply makes it glaringly apparent why the US has such enemies to begin with.

I love it when people resort to these arguments.

"I have nothing good to say in response to what you just said, so instead, I'll just remind you of when we helped you in 82, and that you should be agreeing with anything we do or say forever because of it."

And what I said, it's not a personal attack. It's an observation of what you said, which was a valid point. And it's not "back" to a personal attack since I have never made one.

I told you "their country sucked, but it was theirs, they were proud of it" and you came back with "did you see the how their country was?"

I said it sucked, didn't I? You obviously missed it in your narrow sightedness. As horrible as the country was, it was theirs. You can't seem to even conceive of that concept with makes you rather closed minded.

Both very valid observations, not personal attacks. Some people are open to suggestions, others aren't. Neither is an attack, it's just how they are.

All I know is that Palestinians and Israelis brought us nothing but trouble which ended up in the creation of Hezbollah.
I blame my whole country though for all that shit.

I'm not proud about how we went to war with muslims. Obviously I was very anti-muslim as a kid but I'm ashamed of that whole situation.

you never what's going through their heads.

you never know what they have been through.

If someone killed anyone of my family members... you best believe i'd tear some shit up. would'nt you?