If that happens, I sure hope to see you making a thread titled "Americans have lost all sense of decency" and make comments like "How can it be possible that a whole people can do or approve of such acts?"

PS. 49 people and 1 ignorant ass :glugglug

I've seen your other posts... Knocking palestinians, arabs and so forth...

It is highly unlikely that any one in fallujah lost a family member because of American fire, next...

Are you from Lebanon?

"Get the fuck out of Iraq...."

Because that would solve everything. The reason we're in this mess is because, after the Gulf War, we just "got the fuck out," and that left all of these iraqi's at the hands of a pissed off saddam huessein.

We cannot simply just "get the fuck out of iraq," we need to finish what we started.

people take things way to seriously in this world, thats why we have problems.

People care so much about stupid land, about money, just take it easy and all will come to you.

Ooh, good response. Way to avoid the entire post.

And kenel, I agree... leaving would be a big mistake.

Research abit.. before making empty statments:

http://www.thememoryhole.org/mil/bushsr-iraq.jpg

Its hwo they where raised, what do you expect?

SO, if someone is anti American or anti Israel, they are a free thinker, a philisoph of freedom.

If someone is pro American or pro Israel, then they are stupid and anti-freedom?

The facts are simple and they are as follow.

78% of all Arabs freely admit that it is ok to kill civilians and slaughter them

98% of all Americans will cry if they see a puppy being killed on TV

99% of all Adult Webmaster will run a hosting company to the ground if they see a cat being abused....

Got it?

You're all a bunch of racist assholes.

If a foreign military invaded your country, destroyed your town, killed your brothers, and tried to convert you to their religion, you'd probably start burning motherfuckers alive too.

If I ever had a family member raped or murdered, I'd do whatever I could to exact vengeance from the perp. Up to and including attacking and killing him in the courtroom during the trial.

No jury would convict me, and even if they did I'd still be content in my actions.

dav555ad I think we both agree that change is needed in the muslim world but I don't think we agree on the methods. I really don't see how treating them like crap is gonna do any good.

Research abit.. before making empty statments:


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Excerpt from "Why We Didn't Remove Saddam" by George Bush [Sr.] and Brent Scowhahahahaha, Time (2 March 1998):



By george bush sr.. It seems the family has a history of lies, doesn't it? Like recently...when they convinced us of mass weapons of destruction.

Don't get me wrong, I'm very conservative....I just have 0 respect for Bush now-a-days.

Saddam had them people led properly the plan was simple.

Anyone that didnt do as he said they were shot and families killed.

Thats the only language them people understand. They say Saddam was a strong leader. Indeed he was. He kept them fucks under control the only way them people understand.

Until US forces can deliver the kind of leadership Saddam delivered we won't be getting anywhere with those people.

Them "Clerics" running around over there right now...
Saddam would have had them killed already just for talkin shit.

To me it just seems that these people cannot handle a democracy. Almost ever major middle eastern country is ran by a monarch, and many have quite ruthless ones, there is a reason for that, be it their culture, education, who the hell knows, I sure dont. We are westerners, they are not, to me the whole situation just seems pointless. The only reason they hate us so much is because he help the jews. I say pull all the western forces out and let the jews and arabs fight it out. To me that seems to be the only way for peace, let one kill the other one off, the one still standing doesnt have an enemy anymore, and there you have it, PEACE!!

42.7% of all statistics are made up... or in your case, 100%.

Don't go spouting %'s and call them "facts"

You make yourself out to be a bigger ass then you already have.

As for what I said, it's PRO NOTHING. What I meant was, if you see an American kill an arab in San Diego, don't judge all Americans by it. Got it?

Do you think Iraqis are better off today or 24 months ago?

Are you aware that the Arabs who hold Israeli citizenship are the #1 in per capita GNP in the entire world, including the US and Saudi Arabia?

The solution is to get rid of all these crooked Arab government who only preach hatred of the US/Israel and the west. The problem is that hundreds of millions of Arabs have had their mind soiled with "Kill the Infidels" propaganda.

It will not be an easy task...

Doesn't matter what he thinks, or what you think.

What do the Iraqis think?

This will help to bring peace in the region:

Now, should I extrapole and say like you:

Nuke the Israelis????

Don't think so. We are talking about 15, not all. I have friends in Israel that would prefer to live a peacefull and joyfull life ...

You know, you might want to look at your government....
Canada has quietly decided to do away with immigrants from Arab countries, up to a few months ago, any one applying for residency in Canada had to wait about 24 months, as long as they qualified and they scored enough point on the immigration questionnaire.
Today, a French citizen can expect to immigrate to Canada in less than 12 months, however, people from Arab countries now have to wait in excess of 72 months !!!!

You have no idea what you are talking about, you sure sound like a young naive who does not know much about life beside pussy, trannies and goat fuckers, you are pathetic :thumbsup

Actually in that case, they bought houses in east Jerusalem. Those houses were obviously sold to them by Arab owners. Those same owners are screaming today because the house they sold to Jews are being "occupied" by Jews...:2 cents:

No I don't think Iraqis are better off at all. I see religious fundamentalism increasing, I see crazy acts by frustrated people, I see a nation living under occupation. That's what I see. I see that they're not fully ready. Having another country do all the work for you is only gonna make you irresponsible. Are we commies now? Do we think that all people should be equal and enjoy the same kind of life as others wether they want to or not?

Nope, the solution is to simply give the Palestinians independance. As long as that's not done I don't see the situation changing. You can get rid of any idiotic government you want, that won't change the situation and it sure as hell ain't gonna magically make the problem disappear. Enough with the double standards already. Building settlements in another people's land shouldn't be allowed and sure as hell shouldn't be financed.

Another good argument, way to completely change the topic since you had nothing to say in response.

Do you want to know WHY Canada makes it so difficult for them to get into Canada? Hmm?

You don't suppose it's because of all the pressure that the US puts on Canada to do so, do you?

The US would never put pressure on Canada to do stuff would they? Like, gay marriage issues, marajuana issues, trade issues, going to war with Iraq...

nah, the US would never try to tell another country what to do :1orglaugh

Oh Canada...
Oh, I hold a Canadian Passport by the way :thumbsup
But don't worry, I never go to the west coast...

wtf do I care if you come to Canada? The US already does it's share of poluting our waters and air. Having you here wouldn't be any different.

Doesn't it make you feel bad that now you know I am a "compatriote" :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

There are a lot of stupid people in every country. That's kinda the point we're all trying to get through to you in this thread.

Toot-toot, here comes the clue train. Next stop: You.

I want to have your babies.

Yes, of course.
You are a Philosopher
I am an Ignorant Capitalist Imperialist zionist

I think that too many people own video cameras and too many media outlets are vying to show the world every detail of every creepy thing that goes on in this world.

I'm all for free speech etc. but I don't think all the visuals are really necessary from anyone's point of view.

I think the media from all countries should show a little restraint at times.

:2 cents:

Well he says "General Sharon"

:Graucho

LOL

What they did is totally fucked up but I doubt they did it for fun.

They know the world is watching. They know that if they show enough brutality to the media that the people will get scared shitless and therefore the representatives seeking re-election would take measures against the war.

In other words there using the same tactics as in Nam.

It is in their way of life... Not everybody eats at McDonalds and shop at Wallmart....

Tradition????

If ever I have any, I'll give them to you.

lost? :eek7

Try reading the rest of my post next time :Graucho

They know the world is watching. They know that if they show enough brutality to the media that the people will get scared shitless and therefore the representatives seeking re-election would take measures against the war.

The mission of Islamic Extremists is to destroy Western culture. They hate our entire system and will do anything and everything to accomplish their goals.

They have to be destroyed before they destroy us.

Changed 2 words only....

"extremists".. I will agree with.

Extremists are never good no matter where they're from. They have a tendancy to "bend the rules" for their cause.

Brilliantly put! :thumbsup

tarki larbi larziz?

hahahha... any of you going to Phoenix? We could do this in person... :Graucho

Yes, some chechouka, merguez and harissa, we could really have a ball :glugglug

Not to start a new argument here or anything but..

Something similar to this happened with the Arabs in Gaza, where they took an Israeli soldier that they kidnapped, beat him to death in public, paraded his naked and mutilated body (what was left of it) around town and then brought it into a building and tossed him out of the window.

There was an AP photographer there who took a picture of the guy who bragged that he was the one that beat the guy to death and had the blood on his hands to prove it (he was waving his bloody hands outside the window)..

Israel got the picture, hunted the guy down, and killed him and his family from what I heard..

The US should do the same shit. You have to give the Israelis props for how they handle the situation out there, because if that were happening here, we'd do the same thing.

The world has to recognize that you CANNOT in any way negotiate with arabs, it just won't happen. These people are brainwashed by fundementalists and extremists that if you aren't muslim, you must die. I'm not against all muslims, just these insane fucks. You cannot negotiate with them, ever. Personally I think within the next 10-20 years we may actually see another world war, because there absolutely no way these muslim "martyrs" will ever stop what they are doing until they have either accomplished their goal or until they are all dead.

:2 cents:

OK, let them destroy your house and family first and then see how sympathetic you are towards them.

Before we invaded Iraq the second time, Hosni Mubarak - President of Egypt - warned against it, saying something along the lines of however bad Saddam Hussein seemed to the West, by local standards he really wasn't anything extraordinary. The point is that we forget or refuse to understand what the expression "cultural differences" can really mean.

An Arab martyr believes he will go straight to heaven and sit next to Muhammed. He really believes that with all his heart, just as he believes it is his sacred duty to chase non-believers from his land. That is how he can contemplate what to most of us is unthinkable and turn himself into a human bomb. A spy or collaborator is less than human, so we see a person being burned but the person who did that terrible thing was not burning a person.

These are not excuses for what we all likely perceive as inexcusable behaviour. Look at the disgust most of us feel for paedophiles and then spend an evening reading about ancient Greece: a culture on which much of our civilisation is based. Think about today's rules concerning under-age sex and then find out the age at which people were married as recently as a couple of hundred years ago. During the time of the Medicis, Michael Angelo and Galileo, a girl's elder brother would have sex with her on the eve of her wedding, so that her bridegroom would not have the discomfort of taking away her virginity and she would know how to satisfy him. Culture goes through 180 degree turns in time as well as in space and what we regard as wrong and right changes within single societies, as well as between one society and another.

Nor should we generalize. There is as much variety in Arab society as in our own and we don't brand ourselves child killers, just because some in our society believe that medical intervention is wrong, even when a child's life is at stake.

And why is it that we can be horrified at the picture of one man pouring oil on another, but accept our own use of weapons which kill just as surely and as horribly. Is the act, the intent or the consequence of the act really different because killer(s) and victim(s) are yards or miles apart, instead of face-to-face? The only difference is what we choose to perceive as different.

Anyway this is only in part about the constantly shifting goal posts of right and wrong. The real issue for us should be that when you are faced with an implacable enemy, ultimately you have two choices: either wipe him out or make peace with him. If you can not or will not destroy him so that he can never come back and hurt you again, the first step towards making peace is to understand him.

Actually that scum bag is seating in an Israel jail. :2 cents: I would have personally tortured that guy my self, but that's just me...

Yeah like theres never any acts of group violence in any non arab country

cmon people loets pull our heads out of our asses. ITWS NOT JUST ARABS.. or JEWS.. or BLACKS. Everyone is capable of violence. Im not condoning it.. the world is a shit hole best get used to it:2 cents: