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machinegunkelly 03-26-2004 12:26 AM

Why does everyone think Photoshop sucks for vector work ?
 
?

toddler 03-26-2004 12:27 AM

it doesn't...if you don't want to print.

icecycle 03-26-2004 12:31 AM

photoslop was originally created for manipulating pixels
ie. bitmap artwork

adobes other product - illustrator - was created for manipulating
vector artwork

as of late the lines have blurred but that is the history and why
most feel strongly about your comment

:2 cents:

modelgigtalent 03-26-2004 12:32 AM

I dont think it sucks for vector work, but Fireworks is better for vector work.

loverboy 03-26-2004 12:35 AM

i use both Fireworks and Photoshop depending on what my needs are.
For vectors, i recommend Fireworks.

johnbosh 03-26-2004 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by modelgigtalent
I dont think it sucks for vector work, but Fireworks is better for vector work.
true it can do the job

Esbee 03-26-2004 12:38 AM

You can draw a vector path or shape in Photoshop about the same as Illustrator, but you can't do a hell of alot with it once you've made one.

machinegunkelly 03-26-2004 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Esbee
You can draw a vector path or shape in Photoshop about the same as Illustrator, but you can't do a hell of alot with it once you've made one.
Well no , thats why I was asking ,
I can pull off some stellar 100% vector shit in PS ..
lemme ask a client if I can show this thing I am working on

machinegunkelly 03-26-2004 12:45 AM

permission granted .
Check this out ..
I think its pretty tight .
100% scalable vector .
http://twistedbydesigns.com/camaro.jpg

I get a little upset when I hear people say " only retards use PS for vector " ... its how you use the tools :)

Ozzymosis1 03-26-2004 12:47 AM

Best Vector work ive ever seen :thumbsup

Esbee 03-26-2004 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by machinegunkelly


Well no , thats why I was asking ,
I can pull off some stellar 100% vector shit in PS ..

It's a time-efficiency thing though. I could take any Photoshop designer head-on using MS Paint - it's just gonna take me a hell of a lot longer.

Text-on-path, gradient mesh, symbols, etc - these are vector tools that makes Illustrator shine - though it's still pretty rare I find myself using it.

Granted, I still use PS7. I know PS-CS has text-on-path and maybe other vector features I'm not aware of so my opinion may be moot.

Esbee 03-26-2004 12:51 AM

That's slick!

Is that CS or PS7?

digifan 03-26-2004 12:52 AM

But the file must be huge for print like 100 MB if it is A4 size and it is quite a new feature in photoshop while in Illustrator and FreeHand one could do great vector files which were much smaller in file size and perfect.

machinegunkelly 03-26-2004 12:52 AM

PS 7 ..

Ill pick up CS soon enough , havent really felt the need yet

just a punk 03-26-2004 12:52 AM

Just because it really sucks :winkwink:

modelgigtalent 03-26-2004 12:53 AM

I have also used Flash for vector stuff if it is a simple thing.
:thumbsup

Ironhorse 03-26-2004 12:59 AM

That's some good work but filesize and ease of use I think is why people prefer the other tools. Personally before I went full time on Adobe, I was using Fractal Painter which was doing excellent vector work in '96, as well as natural media effects and animation.

machinegunkelly 03-26-2004 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ironhorse
That's some good work but filesize and ease of use I think is why people prefer the other tools. Personally before I went full time on Adobe, I was using Fractal Painter which was doing excellent vector work in '96, as well as natural media effects and animation.
Do you mean Filesize of the PSD , its only

6.79 MB (7,129,503 bytes) full size of 4000 wide

at 384 layers I dont feel any lag in my PC at all ..

eroswebmaster 03-26-2004 01:13 AM

great work man.
:thumbsup

Mutt 03-26-2004 01:48 AM

well vector is vector - if u can produce a vector piece of work in Photoshop that's fine, but most printers will want it in AI or EPS format. I'm no expert on printing, maybe these days PSD files are more commonplace in print shops since Photoshop added real vector tools. File size is friggin meaningless these days in graphics - not talking about web graphics of course.

you used a graphic tablet to produce this piece?

snobbery exists in every profession, those Illustrator snobs are what are called 'art fags' who have that superior attitude when it comes to software and other tools. Tell them you use PaintshopPro and see their reaction.

The Truth Hurts 03-26-2004 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
Tell them you use PaintshopPro and see their reaction.

:thumbsup

smack 03-26-2004 01:54 AM

used to suck for vector work, but now with the later versions it does great shit.

Newton - XXXAmigoz 03-26-2004 03:42 AM

Beautiful work man .. :thumbsup some real talent there.

Jer 03-26-2004 03:48 AM

I use Corel Draw since version 3 for vector work.

foolio 03-26-2004 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by machinegunkelly
at 384 layers I dont feel any lag in my PC at all ..
gwad daaam

AnalProbe 03-26-2004 04:00 AM

Vector stuff ?

Macromedia Freehand MX is really all you need.

abyss_al 03-26-2004 04:05 AM

because its a raster software - the edges are not smooth like Illustrator or Quark - specially when you make the image size bigger.

abyss_al 03-26-2004 04:14 AM

you guys are wrong - PS is NOT a vector based software - is a raster based software - there are no vectors in PS - Illustrator is vector - do you guys even know what the difference is?

maybe you guys are talking a bout using the bessier curve?
the pen tool?

PS and Illustrator have them both - but the difference is how each software makes the image

PS uses pixels- thats why the edges are not smooth, specially when image is enlarged

Illustrator uses vectors- it plots points(like a graph) and connects them - for example a circle is 4 points plotted and connected then curved- when you enlarge the image/shape the plotted points get further/larger keeping the smooth shape and no pixelation/bluriness


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