Why does everyone think Photoshop sucks for vector work ? - GoFuckYourself.com

toddler · 03-26-2004, 12:27 AM

it doesn't...if you don't want to print.

icecycle · 03-26-2004, 12:31 AM

photoslop was originally created for manipulating pixels
ie. bitmap artwork

adobes other product - illustrator - was created for manipulating
vector artwork

as of late the lines have blurred but that is the history and why
most feel strongly about your comment

modelgigtalent · 03-26-2004, 12:32 AM

I dont think it sucks for vector work, but Fireworks is better for vector work.

loverboy · 03-26-2004, 12:35 AM

i use both Fireworks and Photoshop depending on what my needs are.
For vectors, i recommend Fireworks.

johnbosh · 03-26-2004, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by modelgigtalent
I dont think it sucks for vector work, but Fireworks is better for vector work.

true it can do the job

Esbee · 03-26-2004, 12:38 AM

You can draw a vector path or shape in Photoshop about the same as Illustrator, but you can't do a hell of alot with it once you've made one.

machinegunkelly · 03-26-2004, 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by Esbee
You can draw a vector path or shape in Photoshop about the same as Illustrator, but you can't do a hell of alot with it once you've made one.

Well no , thats why I was asking ,
I can pull off some stellar 100% vector shit in PS ..
lemme ask a client if I can show this thing I am working on

machinegunkelly · 03-26-2004, 12:45 AM

permission granted .
Check this out ..
I think its pretty tight .
100% scalable vector .

I get a little upset when I hear people say " only retards use PS for vector " ... its how you use the tools

Ozzymosis1 · 03-26-2004, 12:47 AM

Best Vector work ive ever seen

Esbee · 03-26-2004, 12:50 AM

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Originally posted by machinegunkelly

Well no , thats why I was asking ,
I can pull off some stellar 100% vector shit in PS ..

It's a time-efficiency thing though. I could take any Photoshop designer head-on using MS Paint - it's just gonna take me a hell of a lot longer.

Text-on-path, gradient mesh, symbols, etc - these are vector tools that makes Illustrator shine - though it's still pretty rare I find myself using it.

Granted, I still use PS7. I know PS-CS has text-on-path and maybe other vector features I'm not aware of so my opinion may be moot.

Esbee · 03-26-2004, 12:51 AM

That's slick!

Is that CS or PS7?

digifan · 03-26-2004, 12:52 AM

But the file must be huge for print like 100 MB if it is A4 size and it is quite a new feature in photoshop while in Illustrator and FreeHand one could do great vector files which were much smaller in file size and perfect.

machinegunkelly · 03-26-2004, 12:52 AM

PS 7 ..

Ill pick up CS soon enough , havent really felt the need yet

just a punk · 03-26-2004, 12:52 AM

Just because it really sucks

modelgigtalent · 03-26-2004, 12:53 AM

I have also used Flash for vector stuff if it is a simple thing.

Ironhorse · 03-26-2004, 12:59 AM

That's some good work but filesize and ease of use I think is why people prefer the other tools. Personally before I went full time on Adobe, I was using Fractal Painter which was doing excellent vector work in '96, as well as natural media effects and animation.

machinegunkelly · 03-26-2004, 01:03 AM

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Originally posted by Ironhorse
That's some good work but filesize and ease of use I think is why people prefer the other tools. Personally before I went full time on Adobe, I was using Fractal Painter which was doing excellent vector work in '96, as well as natural media effects and animation.

Do you mean Filesize of the PSD , its only

6.79 MB (7,129,503 bytes) full size of 4000 wide

at 384 layers I dont feel any lag in my PC at all ..

eroswebmaster · 03-26-2004, 01:13 AM

great work man.

Mutt · 03-26-2004, 01:48 AM

well vector is vector - if u can produce a vector piece of work in Photoshop that's fine, but most printers will want it in AI or EPS format. I'm no expert on printing, maybe these days PSD files are more commonplace in print shops since Photoshop added real vector tools. File size is friggin meaningless these days in graphics - not talking about web graphics of course.

you used a graphic tablet to produce this piece?

snobbery exists in every profession, those Illustrator snobs are what are called 'art fags' who have that superior attitude when it comes to software and other tools. Tell them you use PaintshopPro and see their reaction.

The Truth Hurts · 03-26-2004, 01:53 AM

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Originally posted by Mutt
Tell them you use PaintshopPro and see their reaction.

smack · 03-26-2004, 01:54 AM

used to suck for vector work, but now with the later versions it does great shit.

Newton - XXXAmigoz · 03-26-2004, 03:42 AM

Beautiful work man ..

some real talent there.

Jer · 03-26-2004, 03:48 AM

I use Corel Draw since version 3 for vector work.

foolio · 03-26-2004, 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by machinegunkelly
at 384 layers I dont feel any lag in my PC at all ..

gwad daaam

AnalProbe · 03-26-2004, 04:00 AM

Vector stuff ?

Macromedia Freehand MX is really all you need.

abyss_al · 03-26-2004, 04:05 AM

because its a raster software - the edges are not smooth like Illustrator or Quark - specially when you make the image size bigger.

abyss_al · 03-26-2004, 04:14 AM

you guys are wrong - PS is NOT a vector based software - is a raster based software - there are no vectors in PS - Illustrator is vector - do you guys even know what the difference is?

maybe you guys are talking a bout using the bessier curve?
the pen tool?

PS and Illustrator have them both - but the difference is how each software makes the image

PS uses pixels- thats why the edges are not smooth, specially when image is enlarged

Illustrator uses vectors- it plots points(like a graph) and connects them - for example a circle is 4 points plotted and connected then curved- when you enlarge the image/shape the plotted points get further/larger keeping the smooth shape and no pixelation/bluriness

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machinegunkelly Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,285	permission granted . Check this out .. I think its pretty tight . 100% scalable vector . I get a little upset when I hear people say " only retards use PS for vector " ... its how you use the tools __________________ dead.

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Ozzymosis1 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: United States Occupation: Traffic Broker Company: Fast Adult Traffic URL: FastAdultTraffic.com ICQ: 233907523 Posts: 2,094	Best Vector work ive ever seen __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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icecycle Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 35	photoslop was originally created for manipulating pixels ie. bitmap artwork adobes other product - illustrator - was created for manipulating vector artwork as of late the lines have blurred but that is the history and why most feel strongly about your comment

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loverboy When it rains, it pours Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 20,609	i use both Fireworks and Photoshop depending on what my needs are. For vectors, i recommend Fireworks.

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Esbee Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Northern CA Posts: 109	You can draw a vector path or shape in Photoshop about the same as Illustrator, but you can't do a hell of alot with it once you've made one.

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Esbee Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Northern CA Posts: 109	That's slick! Is that CS or PS7?

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Ironhorse Pixel Pusher Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,093	That's some good work but filesize and ease of use I think is why people prefer the other tools. Personally before I went full time on Adobe, I was using Fractal Painter which was doing excellent vector work in '96, as well as natural media effects and animation. __________________ [email protected]

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Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	well vector is vector - if u can produce a vector piece of work in Photoshop that's fine, but most printers will want it in AI or EPS format. I'm no expert on printing, maybe these days PSD files are more commonplace in print shops since Photoshop added real vector tools. File size is friggin meaningless these days in graphics - not talking about web graphics of course. you used a graphic tablet to produce this piece? snobbery exists in every profession, those Illustrator snobs are what are called 'art fags' who have that superior attitude when it comes to software and other tools. Tell them you use PaintshopPro and see their reaction. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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smack Push Porn Like Weight. Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Inside .NET Posts: 10,652	used to suck for vector work, but now with the later versions it does great shit. __________________ Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

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Newton - XXXAmigoz Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,026	Beautiful work man .. some real talent there. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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Jer God is Brazilian Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Brazil Posts: 10,601	I use Corel Draw since version 3 for vector work.

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AnalProbe pain in the Ass Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,727	Vector stuff ? Macromedia Freehand MX is really all you need.

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abyss_al LOOKING FOR TRADES Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 15,605	because its a raster software - the edges are not smooth like Illustrator or Quark - specially when you make the image size bigger. __________________ EMAIL: allen @ vasmediagroup.com \| ICQ: 311329761 \| SKYPE: abyss.al \| AIM: xABYSSxALx

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abyss_al LOOKING FOR TRADES Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 15,605	you guys are wrong - PS is NOT a vector based software - is a raster based software - there are no vectors in PS - Illustrator is vector - do you guys even know what the difference is? maybe you guys are talking a bout using the bessier curve? the pen tool? PS and Illustrator have them both - but the difference is how each software makes the image PS uses pixels- thats why the edges are not smooth, specially when image is enlarged Illustrator uses vectors- it plots points(like a graph) and connects them - for example a circle is 4 points plotted and connected then curved- when you enlarge the image/shape the plotted points get further/larger keeping the smooth shape and no pixelation/bluriness __________________ EMAIL: allen @ vasmediagroup.com \| ICQ: 311329761 \| SKYPE: abyss.al \| AIM: xABYSSxALx